PC Which is the more important main feature of the game IV
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Aldranon
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There is nothing wrong with having a bunch of game settings.
Look at Stellaris:
-About a dozen settings and sliders (Map, Enemies type and strength, "Loot").
-Then about a dozen choices for your race (Think instead, your character and their starting gear).
All that before the game starts, but people love it. (Paradox games are known for their replay-ability).
It can be done!
Look at Stellaris:
-About a dozen settings and sliders (Map, Enemies type and strength, "Loot").
-Then about a dozen choices for your race (Think instead, your character and their starting gear).
All that before the game starts, but people love it. (Paradox games are known for their replay-ability).
It can be done!
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RestInPieces
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True.
I definitely agree, but what I would like even better (mostly because I play MP with friends) are some really impactful death consequences. I just find myself not caring about dying much of the time, especially after some point in the game and to me the thrill of survival is most of the fun in this game (and most other survival games). To know success, one must know failure. The intensity of each one is analogous with the other.
Crater Creator
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I agree a real permadeath option would be a good idea, but "Delete all on death" is still a pretty impactful consequence in my experience. You can also mod the backpack to disappear almost immediately, so you won't reach it in time.
On the other end of the spectrum, you have the endless death loop when you die on horde night, a case where dying is too punishing.
RestInPieces
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I think it's circumstantially impactful. If you manage your equipment and take only what you need from your safe well-stocked chests, or gather supplies with an empty inventory, it isn't much of a problem. Plus some debuffs are worse than dying - seen many suicide with an empty inventory just to get rid of them. Wellness at its current state is too one-dimensional and flat - personally, it never compelled me to care much about it and only works as a punishing mechanic if it's not capped at its low point. As I see it, death atm is a little trivial.
The endless death loop is not punishing in the sense that I am talking about. It's not an engaging punishment mechanic like dysentery would be (not terribly engaging but you know what I mean), it's just a meaningless waste of time and I agree the game should give you the chance to defend yourself and prevent further deaths.
skullpoker
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Just to clarify, if you started a "Dead is dead" server and somebody dies, are they forbidden from logging on to said server? Or do they simply drop everything and can join again? Meaning that if I knew approximate coordinates for where I died or where I had stored items before dying, I could rejoin on a completely reset character and recover everything I had stored, as well as my backpack, while avoiding losing any health and negating wellness penalty.
Or is that more of a limit you impose on yourself in a single player game?
If it was the first thing, that would seem that people aren't going to join your server because it's too prohibitive to be much fun.
If it's the second thing, that would seem to be a severe impediment that would again, likely have people simply avoid that server because there is no point playing on a server where you're going to lose all of your skills.
If it's the third thing, that would seem to have the same net result while avoiding the Pimps needing to change anything to make it happen, because you're likely to end up playing alone and simulating Hardcore mode without any need to add a switch for it, nor change any code at all.
But if I'm wrong about how you think that would work in an MP setting, please explain so I can figure out whether or not I like the idea.
If you knew, on day 1, that there was a 0.1% chance to find a random Feral during daylight you would be a lot more careful.
Or is that more of a limit you impose on yourself in a single player game?
If it was the first thing, that would seem that people aren't going to join your server because it's too prohibitive to be much fun.
If it's the second thing, that would seem to be a severe impediment that would again, likely have people simply avoid that server because there is no point playing on a server where you're going to lose all of your skills.
If it's the third thing, that would seem to have the same net result while avoiding the Pimps needing to change anything to make it happen, because you're likely to end up playing alone and simulating Hardcore mode without any need to add a switch for it, nor change any code at all.
But if I'm wrong about how you think that would work in an MP setting, please explain so I can figure out whether or not I like the idea.
If the Devs are even thinking about changing that to disable "Run at night" and increasing Feral spawn rate to make nights scarier, I will be thrilled. Not being able to take for granted that they will run or walk adds unpredictability, which increases fear.
If you knew, on day 1, that there was a 0.1% chance to find a random Feral during daylight you would be a lot more careful.
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RevenantWit
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Dead is dead vs an option to drop nothing on death in single player.
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skullpoker
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Bro, there's already an option to drop nothing. Just FYI
skullpoker
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Hmm. I could have sworn I played "drop nothing" before.
Still a better option than hardcore mode.
Still a better option than hardcore mode.