Wandering Traders DMT Mod

Kilroy5150 · Apr 16, 2019

Correct. The full version of SDX compiles all the scripts, patch scripts, etc into new DLLs and patches the game assembly DLL so it knows how to access the other DLLs. It can be configured to build both a client version and a dedicated server version if you specify those 2 paths to those install directories.

So that's the "2nd build path" in the settings? Okay...cool

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BTW, Sphereii updated his WanderingTraderSDX code which is required for these entities, assuming you want them not to slide around and otherwise behave badly.

Thanks, that's good to know. But until i can find out what oddity is causing my compile not to work with his mods...i'm afraid i'll have to do without it because i want to use the mods on both client/server ends.

Kilroy5150 · Apr 16, 2019

So, i finally broke down and ripped out everything. Not just an uninstall but a complete delete. I didn't want to do this for risk of losing possible save-games.

And, it DID fix the issue.

In the process i found a sub-folder where i had a much earlier version of SDX and i think it's what caused the corruption.

Thanks for the patience everyone.

Kilroy5150 · Apr 18, 2019

You only need to learn how to compile with SDX if you want to build modlets (for use on a dedicated server and/or clients) that is more than just xml modifications. If those SDX modlets are already built (like the wanderingTraders), and your not needing a dedicated server, then you are better off using the mod launcher to load those sdx modlets.
I made a quick video that might be helpful:

Working on it....

Guppycur · Apr 18, 2019

What sdx does:

Patches the game so that IF there are scripts or patchscripts in the mod, the game will load them.

That's it.

I'm a firm believer that understanding how things work and what they actually do can help debug issues.

If you have other sdx mods installed, then basically the game is already patched, so doesn't need to be patched again.

What happens though, is sdx is updated and some mods require that update to be loaded into the game, but because the game is already patched with an earlier version, something goes wrong.

There are safeguards in place to allow the sdx update, but they can't account for every instance (maybe someone deleted the backup folder, has multiple installs, etc?), which is why deleting the entire sdx install and game install allows for the most reliable method to update.

Not directed at anyone, I only hope this information is useful.

Kilroy5150 · Apr 18, 2019

What sdx does:
Patches the game so that IF there are scripts or patchscripts in the mod, the game will load them.

That's it.

I'm a firm believer that understanding how things work and what they actually do can help debug issues.

If you have other sdx mods installed, then basically the game is already patched, so doesn't need to be patched again.

What happens though, is sdx is updated and some mods require that update to be loaded into the game, but because the game is already patched with an earlier version, something goes wrong.

There are safeguards in place to allow the sdx update, but they can't account for every instance (maybe someone deleted the backup folder, has multiple installs, etc?), which is why deleting the entire sdx install and game install allows for the most reliable method to update.

Not directed at anyone, I only hope this information is useful.

As you might have read, my previous error was cleared by completely wiping out my 7D2D and reinstalling it. But i've went to my dedicated server, installed SDX 074 and the SDX helper and run into a rather strange issue with compiling these. I, myself, don't even mess with backup folders and i don't make multiple copies of any games i have......but on to the problem.

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It's running into an error, in my Localization.txt, on line 7588 which has to do with (of all things) Mayic's firearms mod.

It says row index mismatch on line 7588....expected 10 but got 11....

Now here's the rub: On my client side, i have that same mod and same build of localization....but i don't get the error there..

You guys, mostly being coders, have a completely different perspective on it. Me, i'm just 10-15 days into this whole SDX thing. I've compiled other mods, for other games, but i'm still on a learning basis for 7D2D even though i've been playing it for 4+ years, i didn't start with the mods until a little over a month ago.

I'm hoping you can see things i can't.

Oh wait, am i going to have to do a ton of library installs (on the server end) for it to be 100%?

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xyth · Apr 18, 2019

With SDX you have to have a backup folder by design. One is created for you on the first run, which is a copy of key game files that it uses as the basis for its xml edits. You will find that backup folder under your root SDX folder.

Your screenshots are too small to read, this forum is not good about attaching image files directly.

sphereii · Apr 18, 2019

As you might have read, my previous error was cleared by completely wiping out my 7D2D and reinstalling it. But i've went to my dedicated server, installed SDX 074 and the SDX helper and run into a rather strange issue with compiling these. I, myself, don't even mess with backup folders and i don't make multiple copies of any games i have......but on to the problem.

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It's running into an error, in my Localization.txt, on line 7588 which has to do with (of all things) Mayic's firearms mod.

It says row index mismatch on line 7588....expected 10 but got 11....

Now here's the rub: On my client side, i have that same mod and same build of localization....but i don't get the error there..

You guys, mostly being coders, have a completely different perspective on it. Me, i'm just 10-15 days into this whole SDX thing. I've compiled other mods, for other games, but i'm still on a learning basis for 7D2D even though i've been playing it for 4+ years, i didn't start with the mods until a little over a month ago.

I'm hoping you can see things i can't.

Oh wait, am i going to have to do a ton of library installs (on the server end) for it to be 100%?

No, you won't need extra dependencies on your server, other than the SDX libraries.

Localization is really challenging, as SDX seems more strict than the game. If you want to post your localization.txt, I can scan it for issues. It could be a missing comma or a mismatched quote.

Kilroy5150 · Apr 18, 2019

No, you won't need extra dependencies on your server, other than the SDX libraries.
Localization is really challenging, as SDX seems more strict than the game. If you want to post your localization.txt, I can scan it for issues. It could be a missing comma or a mismatched quote.

It's a 10,000+ line Localization file as i use a lot of mods but i can post the line in question.

mayicattAdvancedFirearmsDesc,progression,Attribute,New,Unlock various firearms,ammo, and scopes to craft A total of 50 to craft from with elemental ammo,,,,,

But it mention it was a build error on stage two and it pointed to the localization in the backup directory. I forgot to mention that first time around.

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xyth · Apr 18, 2019

Unlock various firearms,ammo, and scopes to craft A total of 50 to craft from with elemental ammo needs quotes around it, otherwise those commas are seen as separators

sphereii · Apr 18, 2019

It's a 10,000+ line Localization file as i use a lot of mods but i can post the line in question.
mayicattAdvancedFirearmsDesc,progression,Attribute,New,Unlock various firearms,ammo, and scopes to craft A total of 50 to craft from with elemental ammo,,,,,

But it mention it was a build error on stage two and it pointed to the localization in the backup directory. I forgot to mention that first time around.

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Code:

mayicattAdvancedFirearmsDesc,progression,Attribute ,New,"Unlock various firearms,ammo, and scopes to craft A total of 50 to craft from with elemental ammo",,,,,

That might work better. Without the quotes, SDX is probably reading the , in the sentence as delimiter. It probably doesn't look right in the game, even with non-sdx builds.

Alternatively, you can delete the Localization from your back up, and just manually copy over the localization file after the SDX is done.

Kilroy5150 · Apr 18, 2019

Cool....thanks to the both of you....i'm slowly catching up on all this...

Has anyone thought of the mailboxes and the mail-system and possibly something to enhance the use? I did see a post, a while back, about using the mailbox to announce the location of the traders making it something like a quest where you can follow a yellow "!" but i never saw it take off. It's just something i've seen and hoped people would do more with like maybe have more than paper appear in mailboxes.....

....or has there already been a mod that i've completely missed? (probably yes, lol)

xyth · Apr 18, 2019

Not sure what you mean by mail-system. Valmar had a mailing system for merchants in A15, but other than that I have no idea what you are referring to.

Kilroy5150 · Apr 18, 2019

Not sure what you mean by mail-system. Valmar had a mailing system for merchants in A15, but other than that I have no idea what you are referring to.

That's kinda what i'm referring to but that was way back in A15....does it still work with A17 or would it be pretty simple code update?

xyth · Apr 18, 2019

No and yes.

Kilroy5150 · Apr 18, 2019

No and yes.

I love that answer...lol.

Kilroy5150 · Apr 19, 2019

Not sure what you mean by mail-system. Valmar had a mailing system for merchants in A15, but other than that I have no idea what you are referring to.

The ordering through the mailbox was a cool idea, i have to admit. But this was a mod, from Relix, called "RELXIX_Quests_TraderAdvertisements" and i have relocated it.

It was a nifty, little mod that told you the location of the closes trader or maybe it was all the traders on the map, i can't remember completely. Still, another cool idea. Making a better use of the mail system would enhance the game a little bit.

I mean, once you establish a base, and hit level 120, it's pretty much all about repetition and i was hoping the game could come up with some better ideas. I hate to say it but they could take some ideas, from Fallout 3-4, and enhance the game.

Hey but i did like your Winter Entities mod. It put a little mix in the game for what had become a little stale.

I'm looking for mods to spice the game up without overwriting most of the system files in case things need to change. You and Shereii have had some great mods.

Relix has some good ideas as well but i've run into a lot of yellow errors with his a17 mods as if he left old code in there the system just didn't like.

xyth · Apr 25, 2019

Added a new dependency to eliminate the error caused when a custom entity dies with the bleeding buff on it.

mr.devolver · Apr 26, 2019

Xyth, I'm sorry if this is a lame question, I'm not a modder, I just wanted to be sure about something. I was reading the files in your Wandering Traders mod and I noticed this:

npc.xml

Code:

&lt;npc_info
		id="traderfood"
		name="Food Trader"
		name_key="npcTraderFood"
		faction="whiteriver"
		portrait="npc_joel"
		greeting_type="nearby"
		stance="Neutral" voice_set="trader"
		trader_id="9" dialog_id="trader" 
		quest_list="trader_quests" /&gt;

entitygroups.xml

Code:

&lt;configs&gt;
 &lt;append xpath="/entitygroups/entitygroup[ starts-with(@name, 'FriendlyAnimals')]"&gt;
   &lt;entity name="Ammo Trader" prob="0.01" /&gt;
&lt;entity name="Drug Trader" prob="0.01" /&gt;
&lt;entity name="Heavy Trader" prob="0.01" /&gt;
 &lt;/append&gt;

&lt;/configs&gt;

There is no food trader in entitygroups.xml, is that ok?

xyth · Apr 26, 2019

Code:
Xyth, I'm sorry if this is a lame question, I'm not a modder, I just wanted to be sure about something. I was reading the files in your Wandering Traders mod and I noticed this:
npc.xml

Code:

<npc_info id="traderfood" name="Food Trader" name_key="npcTraderFood" faction="whiteriver" portrait="npc_joel" greeting_type="nearby" stance="Neutral" voice_set="trader" trader_id="9" dialog_id="trader" quest_list="trader_quests" />

entitygroups.xml

Code:

<configs> <append xpath="/entitygroups/entitygroup[ starts-with(@name, 'FriendlyAnimals')]"> <entity name="Ammo Trader" prob="0.01" /> <entity name="Drug Trader" prob="0.01" /> <entity name="Heavy Trader" prob="0.01" /> </append> </configs>

There is no food trader in entitygroups.xml, is that ok?

OOps, forgot that part when I added the Baker. You can just add him yourself but I pushed version 1.33 to add him to the spawn.

mr.devolver · May 18, 2019

npcTraderFood,entityclasses,Entity,New,Trader Food,,,,,

is missing in Localization.txt. I added it manually, but I wanted to let you all know.

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