[MOD A17] Better Balance Mod

SurvivalUK · Nov 19, 2018

Back again!

Well TFP seem to want to suck more of the fun out of the game for builders, tower defense players and those that don't want limitations imposed! I didn't think that was possible but A17e has arrived.

Usual rules apply, i created this for lan play between me, the missus and our kids. It is tailored for fun openworld play rather than the vanilla first person action zombie shooter. I make no apologies for making things easier to attain, progress quickened, hardened materials resistant to dead fleshy tissue and underground bases a thing again. Play vanilla if you're a masochist (cheers Jolly

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My previous A16 mod to get an idea where this will be heading;

https://7daystodie.com/forums/showthread.php?69388-MOD-A16-Better-Balance-Mod-Spikes-guns-mining-building-etc-improvements

This mod is very much a work in progress

Player

60 / 96 slot bag ** full credit to KhaineGB for his awesome BBM code and his ok for me to use that in this mod **
60 / 96 slots unlocked
Water loss on health / stamina recovery reduced
Health / stamina loss reduced
Stamina use while running, jumping and swimming reduced
Stamina tweaks to tool usage
Greater XP gains for harvesting wood, stone and dirt

Zs

Random knock down recovery time
Loot bag drop increased
Dead body time after death reduced
Z jumping distance limited
Zombie stripper removed
Vulture reduced numbers and no acid spit
Attack range reduced for all Zs
Block damage reduced for all Zs
Zs nerf'd against metal, stone, concrete, brick blocks etc. (no more tearing through concrete like butter and underground bases are back!)
Zs acid spit attacks removed
Greater damage to heads using weapons

Mining, harvesting and loot

Tree bonuses for taking down full trees
-Wood (scales with perks)
-Feathers / eggs (chance of, the bigger the tree the better the chance and more of them)
Mining stone bonuses
-More iron per rock (scales with perks)
-Chance of scrap iron, coal, lead and nitrate
-Chance of gems, Silver (4%), Gold (2%) and Diamond (1%)
Additional bones from corpses, roadkill and animals

Guns

Sniper rifle magazine increase to 10 shot
More powerful weapons

Progression

3 skill points per level up
XP required to level up reduced
Player level gating on perks removed

Perks

Pack mule removed
Parkour removed

Misc

Restored log spikes (wood, metal, steel)
Restored steel polish (hammer or nail gun required for use)
Fill jars from sinks possible
Wheels have a *chance* of being harvested from cars and tyres (wrench required)
Reduced number of open loot container spawns (mostly cupboard / kitchen related)
Increased stack sizes
Death recovery tweaked
Reduced materials forged iron / steel needed for key items
-Iron bars much reduced and upgrade from wood bars to iron balanced to match
Additional mining helmet options
Using the axe, hammer or nail gun to upgrade blocks is now faster
Meat recipe balances
Gravel and sand stability improved so less likely to cave in on miners
Trader pricing balanced (still very early days)
Chemistry sets can now be destroyed for loot
-small - beaker (10%), scrap iron, metal pipe
-medium - beaker (50%), forged iron, metal pipe
-large - beaker (75%), forged iron, metal pipe
Vehicle speeds and turning quicken (shift key boost speed remains only on the bicycle)
- Bicycle 10m/s (12m/s boost speed)
- Minibike 15m/s
- Motobike 20m/s
- Truck 20m/s

Planned

Review perk tree and see if it is possible to put back in recipes for now gated items
Tweak loot tables
Way more balancing needed
More forge slots etc. similar to A16 BBM's

Usual disclaimers

Use at own risk, i've not had a lot of testing time at this early stage (see the next point)
Start a new game and dedicate it to this mod until i have more testing time for stability and balance
With the exception of the Bigger Bag code (speak to KhaineGB) you can use any of the code i've put into the files for any purpose (another mod, tweak your own mod, chop / change etc.), i've tried to label things to make life easy. It's a community we share so go for it!

** Can't stress it enough but back up existing saves prior to updating! Saves are located %appdata%\7DaysToDie\ on the PC **

Download / History

****** DO NOT UPGRADE to v1.8 or newer until you've read this post <link> ******

2019/01/09 - v1.8 (60 slot bag) or (96 slot bag)

-------- previous builds --------

2019/01/04 - v1.7 (60 slot bag) or (96 slot bag)

2018/12/30 - v1.6 (60 slot bag) or (96 slot bag)

2018/12/29 - v1.5 (60 slot bag) or (96 slot bag)

2018/12/22 - v1.4 - compatible with B240 / stable release

2018/12/19 - v1.3

2018/12/16 - v1.2

2018/11/28 - v1.1

2018/11/26 - v1.0 - Initial release

Extract files to your \7 Days To Die\Mods folder, create the folder if it doesn't exist and use the latest edition of 7Zip / Winrar

Copy localisation.txt file to \7 Days to Die\Data\Config\ folder if you want mining helmet descriptions / perks to reflect change in requirements.

Installation instructions here : https://7daystodie.com/forums/showthread.php?94223-MOD-A17-Better-Balance-Mod&p=914167&viewfull=1#post914167

SurvivalUK · Nov 26, 2018

<updated>

First very alpha experimental 'get out of jail card free' release, enjoy at your peril.

ruomwald · Nov 26, 2018

Excuse my poor English, I'm French! I look forward to your mod that gives me hope for pvp games :smile-new: . The parkour system removed, and the return picks, were all that was needed to revive the PVP. In advance, thank you very much for your work.

Jolly · Nov 26, 2018

A17 is more for masochists than sadists, just sayin. Is this gonna go on the mod launcher ?

Ashram · Nov 26, 2018

Nice work

• Restore mining bonuses (increase resources harvested, add back gems)• Restore log spikes (wood, metal, steel)

I'm waiting for that !

Zagan · Nov 26, 2018

I used to use a mod for v16.4 that let you get water from sinks and toilets and had working ovens. The ovens worked like a campfire. I loved this mod and it would be great to have that again. Thing is I would like it as a separate mod as I would with some of the things in your mod because I like some of the parts of your mod, but not others.

No offense, I appreciate the work and effort. I would just like to have a choice of what I could install. Would that be something you could be willing to consider with your mod? Perhaps make a pack of individual parts the user could install?

I would like infinite ammo and durability for all weapons and tools too.

The Real Joonbug · Nov 26, 2018

I used to use a mod for v16.4 that let you get water from sinks and toilets and had working ovens. The ovens worked like a campfire. I loved this mod and it would be great to have that again. Thing is I would like it as a separate mod as I would with some of the things in your mod because I like some of the parts of your mod, but not others.
No offense, I appreciate the work and effort. I would just like to have a choice of what I could install. Would that be something you could be willing to consider with your mod? Perhaps make a pack of individual parts the user could install?

I would like infinite ammo and durability for all weapons and tools too.

Zagan, if you're looking to do an infinite ammo/durability thing, why wouldn't you just play with creative mode on all the time? Sounds like you're looking for ultimate cheats, rather than playing the game for what it is...

MetroDetroitGaming · Nov 27, 2018

I agree, I would also like to use some of this mod but not all such as:

Sight range and angle reduced

Dead body time after death reduced

Z jumping distance limited (needs a proper horde night review, not had chance yet)

Vulture reduced numbers and no acid spit

Attack range reduced for all Zs

Block damage reduced for all Zs

Zs nerf'd against metal, stone, concrete, brick blocks etc. (no more tearing through concrete like butter and underground bases are back!)

Can you please provide that?

SurvivalUK · Nov 27, 2018

Excuse my poor English, I'm French! I look forward to your mod that gives me hope for pvp games :smile-new: . The parkour system removed, and the return picks, were all that was needed to revive the PVP. In advance, thank you very much for your work.

No problems at all and many thanks! Always happy to share and if people like it or bits of it all that's cool

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A17 is more for masochists than sadists, just sayin. Is this gonna go on the mod launcher ?

I'll reach out to @sphereii and ask if the A17 version can be added in.

Oh and yeah, masochists! doh

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Nice work

I'm waiting for that !

Top of the list to make mining worth the effort.

SurvivalUK · Nov 27, 2018

I used to use a mod for v16.4 that let you get water from sinks and toilets and had working ovens. The ovens worked like a campfire. I loved this mod and it would be great to have that again. Thing is I would like it as a separate mod as I would with some of the things in your mod because I like some of the parts of your mod, but not others.
No offense, I appreciate the work and effort. I would just like to have a choice of what I could install. Would that be something you could be willing to consider with your mod? Perhaps make a pack of individual parts the user could install?

I would like infinite ammo and durability for all weapons and tools too.

I'm sure Valmod had working ovens and i'm kinda 50/50 on the idea but i'll stick it on a 'investigate' list.

As for the mod itself it's a pure overhaul and meant to be a packaged. Editing lots of Modlets to bring it all together would be rabbit hole of work with what i'm trying to do. With that said this is why i added comments within the xml files so anyone can cherry pick bits in or out.

SurvivalUK · Nov 27, 2018

I agree, I would also like to use some of this mod but not all such as:
Sight range and angle reduced

Dead body time after death reduced

Z jumping distance limited (needs a proper horde night review, not had chance yet)

Vulture reduced numbers and no acid spit

Attack range reduced for all Zs

Block damage reduced for all Zs

Zs nerf'd against metal, stone, concrete, brick blocks etc. (no more tearing through concrete like butter and underground bases are back!)

Can you please provide that?

I'm going to add additional explanations within the xml's so more code can be edited in / out in the next version.

e.g. entityclasses.xml

Code:

&lt;BetterBalanceMod&gt;
&lt;!-- Player --&gt;
&lt;!-- Bag mod --&gt;
	&lt;set xpath="/entity_classes/entity_class[@name='playerMale']/effect_group/passive_effect[@name='CarryCapacity']/@value"&gt;60&lt;/set&gt;
	&lt;set xpath="/entity_classes/entity_class[@name='playerMale']/effect_group/passive_effect[@name='BagSize']/@value"&gt;60&lt;/set&gt;
&lt;!-- Jump over 2 block high --&gt;
	&lt;set xpath="/entity_classes/entity_class[@name='playerMale']/effect_group/passive_effect[@name='JumpStrength']/@value"&gt;0.2&lt;/set&gt;
&lt;!-- Reduce impact of lack of food and health on overall stamina and health --&gt;
	&lt;set xpath="/entity_classes/entity_class[@name='playerMale']/effect_group/passive_effect[@name='WaterLossPerHealthPointGained']/@value"&gt;0.03&lt;/set&gt;
	&lt;set xpath="/entity_classes/entity_class[@name='playerMale']/effect_group/passive_effect[@name='WaterLossPerStaminaPointGained']/@value"&gt;0.003&lt;/set&gt;
	&lt;set xpath="/entity_classes/entity_class[@name='playerMale']/effect_group/passive_effect[@name='HealthLossMaxMult']/@value"&gt;0.08&lt;/set&gt;
	&lt;set xpath="/entity_classes/entity_class[@name='playerMale']/effect_group/passive_effect[@name='StaminaLossMaxMult']/@value"&gt;0.003&lt;/set&gt;
&lt;!-- Reduce impact of running, jumping and swimming --&gt;
	&lt;set xpath="/entity_classes/entity_class[@name='playerMale']/effect_group/passive_effect[@name='StaminaChangeOT' and @tags='running']/@value"&gt;1.3&lt;/set&gt;
	&lt;set xpath="/entity_classes/entity_class[@name='playerMale']/effect_group/passive_effect[@name='StaminaLoss' and @tags='jumping']/@value"&gt;8&lt;/set&gt;
	&lt;set xpath="/entity_classes/entity_class[@name='playerMale']/effect_group/passive_effect[@name='StaminaLoss' and @tags='swimming']/@value"&gt;30&lt;/set&gt;
&lt;!-- Loot and player bag remain for longer --&gt;
	&lt;set xpath="/entity_classes/entity_class[@name='Backpack']/property[@name='TimeStayAfterDeath']/@value"&gt;3600&lt;/set&gt;
	&lt;set xpath="/entity_classes/entity_class[@name='DroppedLootContainer']/property[@name='TimeStayAfterDeath']/@value"&gt;240&lt;/set&gt;
	&lt;set xpath="/entity_classes/entity_class[@name='EntityLootContainerRegular']/property[@name='TimeStayAfterDeath']/@value"&gt;1200&lt;/set&gt;
	&lt;set xpath="/entity_classes/entity_class[@name='EntityLootContainerStrong']/property[@name='TimeStayAfterDeath']/@value"&gt;1200&lt;/set&gt;
	&lt;set xpath="/entity_classes/entity_class[@name='EntityLootContainerBoss']/property[@name='TimeStayAfterDeath']/@value"&gt;1200&lt;/set&gt;
	&lt;set xpath="/entity_classes/entity_class[@name='EntityLootContainerBandit']/property[@name='TimeStayAfterDeath']/@value"&gt;1200&lt;/set&gt;
&lt;!-- Zombies --&gt;
&lt;!-- Zs stay down for longer --&gt;
	&lt;set xpath="/entity_classes/entity_class/property[@name='KnockdownProneStunDuration']/@value"&gt;1.5,4.0&lt;/set&gt;
	&lt;set xpath="/entity_classes/entity_class/property[@name='KnockdownKneelStunDuration']/@value"&gt;1.5,4.0&lt;/set&gt;
&lt;!-- Reduce jumping distances --&gt;
	&lt;set xpath="/entity_classes/entity_class[@name='zombieTemplateMale']/property[@name='JumpMaxDistance']/@value"&gt;2.2&lt;/set&gt;
	&lt;set xpath="/entity_classes/entity_class[@name='zombieWightFeral']/property[@name='JumpMaxDistance']/@value"&gt;3&lt;/set&gt;
	&lt;set xpath="/entity_classes/entity_class[@name='zombieSpider']/property[@name='JumpMaxDistance']/@value"&gt;4&lt;/set&gt;
	&lt;set xpath="/entity_classes/entity_class[@name='zombieSpiderFeral']/property[@name='JumpMaxDistance']/@value"&gt;6&lt;/set&gt;
&lt;!-- Reduce Zs visbility --&gt;
	&lt;set xpath="/entity_classes/entity_class[@name='zombieTemplateMale']/property[@name='SightRange']/@value"&gt;25&lt;/set&gt;
	&lt;set xpath="/entity_classes/entity_class[@name='zombieTemplateMale']/property[@name='MaxViewAngle']/@value"&gt;170&lt;/set&gt;
&lt;!-- Increase loot drop chance --&gt;
	&lt;set xpath="/entity_classes/entity_class[@name='zombieTemplateMale']/property[@name='LootDropProb']/@value"&gt;0.15&lt;/set&gt;
&lt;!-- How long the Z body remains --&gt;
	&lt;set xpath="/entity_classes/entity_class[@name='zombieTemplateMale']/property[@name='TimeStayAfterDeath']/@value"&gt;20&lt;/set&gt;
&lt;/BetterBalanceMod&gt;

SurvivalUK · Nov 27, 2018

v1.1 updated in OP

Tree bonuses for taking down full trees
-Wood (scales with perks)
-Feathers / eggs (chance of, the bigger the tree the better the chance and more of them)
Mining stone bonuses
-More iron per rock (scales with perks)
-Chance of scrap iron, coal, lead and nitrate
-Chance of gems, Silver (4%), Gold (2%) and Diamond (1%)
Reduced number of open loot container spawns (mostly cupboard / kitchen related)

Zagan · Nov 27, 2018

Zagan, if you're looking to do an infinite ammo/durability thing, why wouldn't you just play with creative mode on all the time? Sounds like you're looking for ultimate cheats, rather than playing the game for what it is...

That is like saying "Why don't you play with no mods at all?" Just because I like to make the game easier instead of making it more difficult does not mean my request is not a valid one. If you won't make a mod that does what I asked for because of your moral limitations about cheating then just say you don't make cheats. In fact, if that is how you feel you need not post anything at all. You don't need to come down on me for the way I like to play my game.

If you can't make the mod I asked for because you don't know how then just say you can't and leave it at that. Yeah, I like to cheat, so what? How does that affect you? Not at all. So how about we just play the game the way we like and have fun?

Besides, you don't seem to have a problems with more bag slots, stamina cost reduced, being able to get water from faucets, zombie attack range reduced, zombie block damage reduced, and the many other "cheats" in this mod. Isn't that a little more than hypocritical?

My apologies to the OP, I think your work is awesome and I thank you for it. Sorry if I had a bit of a rant here.

SurvivalUK · Dec 16, 2018

v1.2 updated in OP

Loads of tweaks log spikes back, stamina (power attacks), forged iron / steel resource reductions, more powerful guns etc.

As before i highly recommend starting a new game or at least backup any existing game before using the mod as a whole.

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My apologies to the OP, I think your work is awesome and I thank you for it. Sorry if I had a bit of a rant here.

No worries

SurvivalUK · Dec 19, 2018

v1.3 updated in OP

Balanced with the changes in b233, additional mining helmets and a few other tweaks.

Blazer777 · Dec 19, 2018

no his work isnt life saving its a god send and work of freaking art not to mention he keeps reading my mind

naruton · Dec 19, 2018

Really glad to see this mod. Almost everything that I need for a builder in a sp game. I hope it stays updated till alpha 17 stable gets released. Thank you!

Goratrix · Dec 20, 2018

Nice one still would need to a 90BBM :smile-new:

SurvivalUK · Dec 20, 2018

no his work isnt life saving its a god send and work of freaking art not to mention he keeps reading my mind

heheh thanks!

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Really glad to see this mod. Almost everything that I need for a builder in a sp game. I hope it stays updated till alpha 17 stable gets released. Thank you!

No worries at all and keeping it updated is the plan

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Nice one still would need to a 90BBM :smile-new:

Drop @KhaineGB 96 BBM xpath files into the mod directory after extracting this first and you should be good to go.

https://7daystodie.com/forums/showthread.php?94262-A17-Bigger-Backpack-Mod

Goratrix · Dec 20, 2018

Tried that on my end on solo game, and inventory appear invisible

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