How far have you gone this playthrough?

I got irked about still not being able to buy a Drone, so went and crafted all the Scorcher Stew I could make (7 of them), and decided to try the Snow Biome even though I am level 72, not 100+ like I had wanted. The game is far more challenging when you need to go out at far lower levels than you are used to, so the 2 years that I played with Loot 200% and XP 300% is very telling. I don't remember if I have run through the Snow Biome on this map before or not, but I was surprised by the location of the 4 Trader Hugh's, so either I have in fact not been in the snow before, or it was so long ago that my feeble mind cannot remember anything about previous playthroughs.

After meeting all 4 Trader Hugh's, though, I am still without a drone. 🤬 🤬 🤬
I have no points in lucky looter, is that the problem? Is my gamestage/lootstage just too low for drones to be unlocked at levels below 100? I am used to having my level 5 drone by HN 5, and usually (with the Loot bonus on) I can get them at Trader Jenn/Bob. Can anyone verify, with Loot bonus OFF, and no points in LL, where/when the Drones start to be for sale?

My obsession with my drone has had me focusing on not doing quests, but Beer Runz instead. My levels are coming in way to slow, so I think I will just build a slab of concrete somewhere, and start stockpiling Learning Elixirs, and start wearing a Nerd Helm.

Once I hit level 100+, I plan on switching to HNEN, and perhaps 12 hour days, instead of 18 hour days, so a 1 1/2 length HN, every night. That should get the XP rolling in.

My little digital dude has himself decked out in the Enforcer set, all but the gloves are lvl 6, gloves lvl 2 (Those bonuses don't work for a guy without power tools/vehicles), and I have built various Farmer/Lumberjack/Miner sets as well, but none are lvl 6.

I could just turn loot bonus ON again, and instantly get my drone, but I want to play all the way through without that crutch.
Lucky looter and loot settings don't affect trader inventory.

The things that do are:
  • Your level
  • How many quest tiers you've completed
  • Daring Adventurer perk
You were most likely seeing much higher stage items earlier in your old play throughs due to playing with 300% xp, making your level much higher which in turn increases trader stage.

The actual trader stage formula is:

(Level x (1+Quest Tiers Completed)) + (10 x Daring Adventurer Ranks)

Drones are considered end game items. I'm not sure of the exact required trader stage to have them in stock, but I believe it's around 250. At level 70 odd like you are in your playthrough, completing your current quest tier may well bump your trader stage high enough for them to start showing up.

I don't know if any traders specialise in robotics, but if one does I'd be almost certain it will be Bob. That doesn't make drones unlock any earlier, but it makes them more likely to be in stock once they are unlocked.
 
What improvement(s) would you like to see, if not recourse to cheat mode? More than one quest at a time, restriction on how far away they can be, or perhaps an upgradeable LCB, that when fully upgraded could have a teleportation function built in, perhaps?
There are a multitude of issues rather than any single.
I believe that the primary problem is simply that there are too many infested tier 5's that i wont even consider running. Because the buffs only last 9 minutes, can only be stacked twice and are not easy to source in bulk, it heavily incentives me to choose certain POI's.
Namely those with high zombie density and easily accessible spawn triggers to activate multiple at the same time. If i have to choose between two POI's one of which sends 5 zombies at a time 20 times, or another that sends 100 zombies all at once, i will obviously take the 100 at once. If it has two 100 zombie triggers right next to each other even better.
However at the same time i do not believe that this is a design flaw, everyone has different play styles and not everyone wants 100 zombies at once, let alone 200. I will touch more on this in point 3.

Obtaining the quests is more time consuming than running them would be the second problem, and is a problem in both ways.
Traders only allow one quest at a time, are limited by default to 4 per biome, are not guaranteed to be anywhere near a players POI's of choice, and might not even offer the desired quest at all.
Secondly TFP buffed zombie health substantially a while back because players were running through quests too quickly for their liking, creating what the community refers to as bullet sponges. With the addition of high power ammo to caches this problem has returned with a vengeance. I do not even use guns and still clear several tier 6 quests with sub 7 minute times.

Three, there are simply not enough tier 5 POI's and no reason for me to visit lesser tier buildings. Roughly speaking, during quest progression you run 10 of each building tier, with the exception of tier 5 buildings due to both trader tier 5 and 6 requiring them. This makes tier 5 buildings the most frequently visited in each playthrough at 20 visits plus repeats if you keep playing after trader completion.
However tier 5 buildings are not only likely the most difficult to create, but it would be unfair to expect TFP to create every POI with my preferred style in mind. This means that even should there be 100 tier 5 buildings, perhaps only 10% would be desirable to me.

Fourth problem, POI spawning. The game does not allow duplicate POI's within a certain distance, might not spawn a POI in the players preferred biome or even spawn the players desired POI at all! With the excellent addition of new higher scaling for biomes, it means a POI in the wasteland will be far more enjoyable than the same POI in the forest, therefore why would i ever leave the wasteland to do quests elsewhere?


To summarize my long winded opinion, there is no one size fits all solution. Creative mode teleportation is the ONLY method at the moment. It will certainly be a difficult problem for TFP to solve, if they solve it at all. It could be an issue localized to myself after all.


Finally...
Previous:
Day 30/31 Second wasteland horde complete: Level 103, Gamestage 837, 6618 kills, quest progression 200/210
Current:
Day 35/36 Third wasteland horde complete: Level 119, Gamestage 958, 7120 kills, quest progression 200/210

As stated i spent the week digging holes. It was horrible. However the base and farm are now complete and rockets are rolling in at a steady pace. This next week will probably be my last and it will be... a blast.
It truly amazes me that you guys play till day 229, with 120 minute days no less! If i really forced myself i suspect i could last till day 100 at 60 minute days, i cannot imagine what you guys do to keep yourself busy and not get burned out.
 
It truly amazes me that you guys play till day 229, with 120 minute days no less! If i really forced myself i suspect i could last till day 100 at 60 minute days, i cannot imagine what you guys do to keep yourself busy and not get burned out.
My escuse for this is the complicated bases I make. I was not finished with my permanent base until after about day 2xx or something, I cannot remember exactly when I finished my base, but it was after day 200.
 
4475.1 hours seems to be my total hours with 7dtd? I had to blow it up to +400%, and it started to get blurry, but that is my best guess.

I was not going to say it before, but I have to. Why are your videos 360p? I upload 1080p and it may take a while but I can still do other things. What resolution do you play in? I am 1080p, I can do 1440p if I want to but running 1440p and making videos of gameplay is unnecessary.
I have no idea about my video settings, but perhaps with the magnifier, I might be able to actually see what that stuff is. I'll have to try to use it on my video making software and my youtube channel.
Also why do you not use the windows magnifier? Just go to search in windows start menu and type just "magn" and it will allow you to click on the magnifier app. I use it myself because my eyes are getting bad to.
I didn't know that it existed, lol.
You are killing them with spike traps and you would be with turrets as well.
I think you missed my point, every zombie that dies to the spike traps is a zombie that does not give my digital dude XP, which is the main reason I like Horde Night, with Loot Bags and Killing satisfaction the other two factors. Killing more zombies, and not getting 100% of that XP, would be counter productive.

I should point out that, my computer is much more limited than yours, and my internet is very slow (it is <$15.00/month), so the videos I am posting to youtube take like 10 minutes each, now that they are in the MP4 format, before, they took much longer.

Game wise, My computer would crash with the 10K maps, which is why I use the smaller maps I play on. I know this because it has. My max zombies is set to 12, not because my computer cannot handle more, but because at 18 zombies, I have to spend longer and longer running away, and that kills XP/hours played, which means even less loot and XP on HN
 
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I have no idea about my video settings, but perhaps with the magnifier, I might be able to actually see what that stuff is. I'll have to try to use it on my video making software and my youtube channel.
How do you encode your gameplay? I would suggest at the very least you should encode at 720p, that's 1280 x 720 resolution. Strangely, 720p and 1080p (1920x1080) looks 10 times better than even 480p, and you had 360p, It really makes a huge difference in quality. If your computer can handle it, you can record at 1080p or 720p and re-code with Handbrake to lower the setting, like lower audio re-coding and lower bitrate re-encoding for your video stream. If you can only record at 320p then I am afraid that's it. You cannot upscale 320p, trust me I have tried 480p to 720p and it still looked bad. That is unless you have a software package like "Topaz Video AI" that costs quite a bit and that will require a newer GPU with lost of Cuda Cores on your GPU.

I will help you with handbrake if you need it. The reason I asked was because your video quality was so terrible I could not read any text on the last one uploaded.
 
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■■■■, lol. Which was the last one? It's been so long since I uploaded/played, I don't remember.
This one:

I don't know my hours played, because I cannot read the numbers on steam, but I did make a short video, maybe the total hours played can be seen by others.


Granted my are a going bad (well not that bad) but I still could not make out the text. I think I did use the magnifier too.
 
Day 39... oh god i'm so tired. I did not realize this level of slaughter would take so much energy. I am having to limit myself to 2 irl hours a day to let my brain rest. I've been pushing POI's so much harder than normal, taking risk's i normally would not and have been bought to the edge of death time and time again. My health has reached single digits 3 times in the last 3 and 1/2 days and i have had splinted arms and legs the entire time... they never get time to heal before zombie hits increase the timer.
The game really does not like me spawning the entirety of Grover High at once, but holds up surprisingly well.

Previous:
Day 35/36 Third wasteland horde complete: Level 119, Gamestage 958, 7120 kills, quest progression 200/210
Current:
Day 39, 90 irl minutes till horde... Level 176, Gamestage 1372, 12435 kills, quest progression god help me all of them.
 
My health and friend group are both telling me the old, "Naw dude, naw".

My former partner, who was playing legit, is now addicted to the cheater server, and uses admin books and guns.

The Husband, who I had been so proud of recently, just admitted that the game he last played, spawning in a level 1 nail gun, that he claimed was his only cheat, recently admitted he had done much more cheating than that, and lied about it.

The lady that runs a 24/7 server, and claimed that it was legit, was if fact gaslighting me, and knew all along that they were cheating.

I don't watch folks cheat, so now have no one else's games to watch, and my health is making me take a break from my own 7dtd fun.

When/if my eyesight recovers:

I'll be back.
 
My health and friend group are both telling me the old, "Naw dude, naw".

My former partner, who was playing legit, is now addicted to the cheater server, and uses admin books and guns.

The Husband, who I had been so proud of recently, just admitted that the game he last played, spawning in a level 1 nail gun, that he claimed was his only cheat, recently admitted he had done much more cheating than that, and lied about it.

The lady that runs a 24/7 server, and claimed that it was legit, was if fact gaslighting me, and knew all along that they were cheating.

I don't watch folks cheat, so now have no one else's games to watch, and my health is making me take a break from my own 7dtd fun.

When/if my eyesight recovers:

I'll be back.
I won't lie, I've been invested in this thread and your journey. I actually just made my account specifically to reply to this- quick question though: what settings do you play on?

And also, I hope your health improves. It sounds like you've been through a lot, but I hope you can power through and play more soon!
 
I won't lie, I've been invested in this thread and your journey. I actually just made my account specifically to reply to this- quick question though: what settings do you play on?

And also, I hope your health improves. It sounds like you've been through a lot, but I hope you can power through and play more soon!
In addition to my eyesight, I've been having chest pains and a persistent cough, even though nothing comes up.

As soon as the weather warms up here, I can start walking again without getting out in freezing temps, and I expect that will make it possible to get my cough-potato butt out and about, and that will get me back in playing shape. I Hope. Thanks for the kind words.
 
I won't lie, I've been invested in this thread and your journey. I actually just made my account specifically to reply to this- quick question though: what settings do you play on?
I used to be very strict on no mods, but with my eyesight issues, I found it necessary to go into the code and remove all ranged attacks, by any of the zombies, so my fun isn't messed up by all sorts of un-zombie like spitting and such. No Plague spitters bug swarm, no yeti rock throwing, no ranged attack of any kind, just good old zombie like melee attacks.

My current runthrough is an attempt to do 1-300th level with no deaths, and is set on 'Scavenger' difficulty, with max zombies set to 12. I tried 18, but then I would have to spend more time running, less time killing, so set the max to 12 and enjoy how thing go. Yes, sometimes I manage to kill all the zombies near me, and have a brief wait till more arrive. For two years, I was playing with the 200% loot bonus and the 300% xp bonuses on, but now I am playing without any of that, and I have to say, I like the journey more than the fast track.

Because of the needless reduction in the font size used to display stamina/life, I can no longer read stamina numbers, and since I play dead = restart, the hour or so I actually had v2.5 installed, I died (and restarted) three times, due to running up to a zombie on day 1, and running out of stamina, and ended up giving them a free meal. Then I dove deep into the game controls looking for a way to increase the text size back to that used in v2.4. since there was no way for the user to adjust this, I just reverted back to v2.4, and, what with all the 'empty bottle' garbage now entering the game, I'm not inclined to swap out v2.4 with a more modern versions, even if they fix the font size.

Some game settings I use, zombie block damage is set to 25%. I don't like hours of base repairs, so I prefer not to have the undead needlessly beating up my blocks, but rather coming for my little digital dude. It isn't exciting/rewarding (to me at least) to have the zombies attacking random blocks, rather than my guy. My Horde Night base grants easy access for all the two-legged zombies to path through to my, so some damage occurs, and the dogs and dire wolves do some as well.

And also, I hope your health improves. It sounds like you've been through a lot, but I hope you can power through and play more soon!
I used to be 'the man', but that was back 40 some odd years ago.

I remember, of the three times I have had pneumonia in my life, the second time gives me a laugh these days.

There I was, running in PT formation (Physical Training for the civvies out there) at good old Fort Dix, New Jersey. The year would have been 1980 and 4. We were running in the snow (it was February), and I just took one step to the left and stopped running. Keep in mind that the Drill Sergeant runs along the formation of recruits. Just a bit to the left...

So, My thinking was that I was just going to stop long enough to catch my breath, and then run and catch back up to the formation. What really happened though, was that my Drill Sergeant had to himself take a step to the left to avoid running me over, so it wasn't enough that I had just broken ranks (which is a big no-no), but that I had made him go around me.

He stopped the entire formation, and began the screaming/shewing out. I was a bit distracted, and missed most of what he was saying. I kept up holding up a hand, in a "wait a minute, and I'll be with you soon" kind of way. Now he is getting more angry, more volume, the tone is growing worse...

Then, in mid cussing-me-out, he suddenly stops, and asks, in a normal, conversation tone of voice and volume, "Are you alright?" Up until then, my immediate future was going to be to get 'dogged out' in front of everybody, and suffer many, many more than normal push up than regular PT required.

You see, I couldn't answer any of his questions other than by gesture, as I was too busy choking and coughing. Choking to the point my face turned red, then to deep red, the to blue, and finally to purple. At that point, he realized he had a man in distress, not being lazy or goofing around.

He stopped yelling, and waited for me to finally be able to suck in more air than I was violently expelling as the phloem/mucus would break loose in my windpipe, and enter my lungs, and once I started getting more air into my lungs than I was coughing out, I regained the ability to breath without choking. Had a big old patch of snow that had melted at my feet by the time I was done.

Once my breathing was under control, I tried to rejoin the back of the formation, but he wasn't having any of that, and made me return to my spot near the front of the formation, and off we went, and completed our run.

On this fine day, a sunday, we finally had some free time, for part of the afternoon, and I got to go on sick call (Many attempts prior had been denied), and the docs looked me over, and gave me meds, and told me what to do. Now, normally, you cannot take food out of the chow hall, but the docs told me, not to worry about that, and to take a napkin and fill it with salt, and when we were done for the day, go into the laterene, and fill my canteen cup with water that was as hot as I could get, and then put the salt into the hot water and let it disolve.

Then, I was supposed to start gargling this hot, salty water. The docs had not told me what to expect, so it came as a complete surprise. Now, as luck would have it, that same Drill Sergeant for the run that morning, had the CQ (Charge of Quarters) duty that night, and was taking a dump in one of the stalls right behind me.

So there I was, standing at one of the sinks, and with my platoon mate to either side of me, at their own sinks, and I made a single, good faith effort to gargle that hot, salty water. I still feel, to this day, that the docs could have warned me...

No sooner than that hot, salty water reached into my windpipe, than the pain hit. It was bad. My body immediately, and with a quickness, forcibly expelled that hot, salty water. Only it wasn't just the hot, heavily salted water that came out, but bright red blood. I painted the sink, the mirror above it, and the wall to either side. The guy to my left said, far to loudly to my thinking, "Man, you're coughing up blood!!!"

Now, to be perfectly fair, that really wasn't a secret, but I didn't want any un-needed attention drawn to the fact that I had just made a mess, and that I might b sick enough to get sent to the hospital (in which case, I would miss critical training, and end up having to do Basic Training all over again), a fate that, really wouldn't be worse than death, it just felt like it would be.

So, still not being able to talk above a hoarse whisper, I told the guy "Shhhh", and frantically began cleaning up the mess that I had made. The latrine emptied out right quick, and soon i was alone, and when I got every last drop cleaned up, and relaxed and straightened up and glance in the mirror...

It turned out, I wasn't alone after all, and my Drill Sergeant was standing right behind me, and saw everything. All he said was, "Get your ■■■■", and I knew I was going to end up having to be recycled and do it all, all over again. This was the worst possible news a recruit can hear.

I went back to my 8 man room, got dressed, and went back to the aid station. When I told the docs what happened, and what my DS said, they told me that for what I had wrong with me, this was normal, and didn't require a visit to hospital. Turns out, it wasn't just the Pneumonia, but also a ruptured larynx, and a strep throat infection on top of that.

You can imagine my relief, being told that I could return to duty, didn't need to go to hospital, and wouldn't need to get recycled. I get back to the barracks, and just as I'm going through the stairway door, the same DS is at the CQ desk, and calls me out. Even when I showed him the paperwork the docs gave me, he didn't believe me, or them, that I didn't need a hospital visit.

They explained what was wrong with me, what I needed to do, and finally, not without some grumbling, I was allowed to return to duty that night. I didn't get recycled, and graduation finally came around, and Basic training was just a bad memory.

My profile pic is from right around that time period.
 
I used to be very strict on no mods, but with my eyesight issues, I found it necessary to go into the code and remove all ranged attacks, by any of the zombies, so my fun isn't messed up by all sorts of un-zombie like spitting and such. No Plague spitters bug swarm, no yeti rock throwing, no ranged attack of any kind, just good old zombie like melee attacks.

I only use a mod that changes the lighting for the game to be more realistic, while the server I play on uses a bag mod and a stack mod. Otherwise, your game settings sound pretty nice. I like playing hardcore in most of the games I play, and honestly, just for the games sake I would also remove plague spitters and yeti stuff since how annoying they are to deal with. With your eyesight, I can imagine how much of a nightmare it is since they made it so that your vision is obscured in-game.

My current runthrough is an attempt to do 1-300th level with no deaths, and is set on 'Scavenger' difficulty, with max zombies set to 12. I tried 18, but then I would have to spend more time running, less time killing, so set the max to 12 and enjoy how thing go. Yes, sometimes I manage to kill all the zombies near me, and have a brief wait till more arrive. For two years, I was playing with the 200% loot bonus and the 300% xp bonuses on, but now I am playing without any of that, and I have to say, I like the journey more than the fast trac

I also started with 300% loot abundance and 200% XP bonuses for the first few years playing the game. I'm a bit younger, but I bought it around 2017 during alpha 16. I recently started a new save with the following settings:

Difficulty: Insanity
XP Bonus: 100%
Loot abundance: 100%
Death penalty: Injured + No perma death just drop all the items.
Storms: 500%
Trader quests: 5 (my only little indulgence i wanted!)
Bloodmoon Z run: Nightmare
Daylight Z run: Jog
Nightime Z run: Sprint

This is off the top of my head! I've been having a lot of fun with it so far.


Some game settings I use, zombie block damage is set to 25%. I don't like hours of base repairs, so I prefer not to have the undead needlessly beating up my blocks, but rather coming for my little digital dude. It isn't exciting/rewarding (to me at least) to have the zombies attacking random blocks, rather than my guy. My Horde Night base grants easy access for all the two-legged zombies to path through to my, so some damage occurs, and the dogs and dire wolves do some as well.

Thats fair honestly, I hate zombies constantly mowing down my base as well. And having to constantly repair. Nail gun helps, but i've always struggled with it's books always and i would be stuck with a stone axe for a while... :')

You see, I couldn't answer any of his questions other than by gesture, as I was too busy choking and coughing. Choking to the point my face turned red, then to deep red, the to blue, and finally to purple. At that point, he realized he had a man in distress, not being lazy or goofing around.

He stopped yelling, and waited for me to finally be able to suck in more air than I was violently expelling as the phloem/mucus would break loose in my windpipe, and enter my lungs, and once I started getting more air into my lungs than I was coughing out, I regained the ability to breath without choking. Had a big old patch of snow that had melted at my feet by the time I was done.

That is super scary, I had a family member pass away due to pneumonia that turned into sepsis due to their smoking. Having to do that while training sounds like a nightmare. I've had breathing problems in my past, and had to push myself through P.E lessons in school that would push me into an asthma attack. I can't imagine how scary it was in duty!!


Now, to be perfectly fair, that really wasn't a secret, but I didn't want any un-needed attention drawn to the fact that I had just made a mess, and that I might b sick enough to get sent to the hospital (in which case, I would miss critical training, and end up having to do Basic Training all over again), a fate that, really wouldn't be worse than death, it just felt like it would be.

So, still not being able to talk above a hoarse whisper, I told the guy "Shhhh", and frantically began cleaning up the mess that I had made. The latrine emptied out right quick, and soon i was alone, and when I got every last drop cleaned up, and relaxed and straightened up and glance in the mirror..

I didn't know you'd have to restart training if you were sick with pneumonia, that sounds like literal hell. I can see why you'd feel scared having to do it again. From the people who I've met who's been through it has told me similar stories as well.



You can imagine my relief, being told that I could return to duty, didn't need to go to hospital, and wouldn't need to get recycled. I get back to the barracks, and just as I'm going through the stairway door, the same DS is at the CQ desk, and calls me out. Even when I showed him the paperwork the docs gave me, he didn't believe me, or them, that I didn't need a hospital visit.

They explained what was wrong with me, what I needed to do, and finally, not without some grumbling, I was allowed to return to duty that night. I didn't get recycled, and graduation finally came around, and Basic training was just a bad memory.

My profile pic is from right around that time period.

I'm glad it did end up working the way it did, I don't think many people would have a lot of the discipline and will power to go through training like that again.
 
In addition to my eyesight, I've been having chest pains and a persistent cough, even though nothing comes up.
I know all about chest pain. I have been to emergency like 5 times for it and one time my left arm was numb. Turned out to be nothing though. My case is a bit different though and chest pains are very serious.

Have you tried playing the game is a lower resolution? Sometimes a game can make the text so small that you may want to lower the resolution. I could play a DosBox or Amiga game all the way across the room and read the text just fine at its 800x600 or similar resolution.

I am glad you posted, I thought you may have given up. I wanted to make that video of the next bloodmoon and thought you might find it interesting to see all the electrical traps I plan to try next.
Only it wasn't just the hot, heavily salted water that came out, but bright red blood. I painted the sink, the mirror above it, and the wall to either side. The guy to my left said, far to loudly to my thinking, "Man, you're coughing up blood!!!"
Not quite the same of course, but not too long ago I was at the toilet to urinate and all of a sudden there was thick red blood coming out instead of urine, not dark urine but real blood. I thought, well that's not good. Weird when we get older and we have to deal with these types of things. I am only 58, but I am getting close to an old man, even though I still fell like a 20 year old mentally for some reason. I think I act like a 20 year old as well which is probably weird to people around me.
 
Day 55, 2048 hrs
Level 97, 3774 kills.
QP 53/60.

Still not feeling well, but some quick news...
I finally got my Level 100 robotics, and didn't have a single legendary part, lol.

I almost died, because when I respected to book focus, I didn't save any points for healing/siphoning strikes. On the plus side, when I left base, I had 89/100 robotics. I found a book store, and got the 11 books I needed without any trouble, but I had less than 100 hp by then, lol.

Got back to base, feeling rotten, and then learned I didn't have the one part I needed. I burned through another fer'gettin Elixir, but didn't re-spend my 100 points.
 
I don't really get cheating in games, especially single player and coop games. If the person is trying for clout in multiplayer, then its for a reason at least. But to play single or coop games and cheat makes no sense, to me anyway.
sometimes people do not have the time or energy to grind through things legitimately but they still want to play and enjoy a game.

i spawn in the ak-47 and mineral water for my boyfriend when we play together because they are VERY comfortable in their super long-term base where they are +100 level and have the best kit fully maxing out lucky looter, armored up and forge-ahead can get you and this is they only way i can get them to indulge me in restarting my worlds around/after the third bloodmoon night(i have been this way with my games for decades. i am an early-game addict). i have a personal mod that also gives me wood, stone and clay soil so i can craft blocks while we do the day 1/2 run-around looking for bob(we build in the desert)

we cheat because they wont play with pipe-guns and i want to spend time with them playing their comfort game. neither of us care about the approval of strangers on the internet(at least when it comes to 7d2d, lol) so this is something that works for us. cheating isn't without its purpose even if the purpose is not super apparent to hardcore gamers
 
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sometimes people do not have the time or energy to grind through things legitimately but they still want to play and enjoy a game.

i spawn in the ak-47 and mineral water for my boyfriend when we play together because they are VERY comfortable in their super long-term base where they are +100 level and have the best kit fully maxing out lucky looter, armored up and forge-ahead can get you and this is they only way i can get them to indulge me in restarting my worlds around/after the third bloodmoon night(i have been this way with my games for decades. i am an early-game addict). i have a personal mod that also gives me wood, stone and clay soil so i can craft blocks while we do the day 1/2 run-around looking for bob(we build in the desert)

we cheat because they wont play with pipe-guns and i want to spend time with them playing their comfort game. neither of us care about the approval of strangers on the internet(at least when it comes to 7d2d, lol) so this is something that works for us. cheating isn't without its purpose even if the purpose is not super apparent to hardcore gamers
I said I don't know why people cheat in games. Well your reason does make a lot of sense. I tend to forget that most people have lives. Just because I have the time to play with 120 minute days for hundreds of hours, doesn't mean everybody else does.

I also had to cheat in the original Far Cry (2004). I decided to raise the difficulty one up from normal, that was a mistake. The game is unforgiving and the save point can be an hour away. So I played on a virtual machine and scum-saved the state of the VM a bunch of times..

I also get stuck in games that happen to have puzzles that seem impossible (or don't make any logical sense), so I have to read a part of a walkthrough to get me further in the game. I cannot really help this when It comes to old school games before the mid 2000's to back to the 80s. Especially very old RPG games. If I did not have a cluebook for the original Wasteland (1988) I would have never gotten very far.

So I take back what I said about cheating. Its just that in some games the challenge is to do everything on your own, to feel like you accomplished something - that is of course if you have a lot of time on your hands like me.
 
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