Jost Amman said:
1) While clearing a POI you can break closet doors with arrows, they'll make a loud noise but since "you're sneaking" the zombie inside won't wake up. Even if this is intended it is broken IMO and leaving it as it is will just make the game look dumb.
2) While sneaking in range of a zombie in the dark you turn on the helmet light and the "sneak meter" goes all the way up, but the zombie won't still see you.
3) In some POI's rooftop if you sneak near the area where the zombies are supposed to spawn you'll see no one, then when you enter the "volume" you'll suddenly see all the zombies appear out of thin air. That's another thing that needs fixing unless you want to completely ruin people's immersion.
4) I forgot! You can also kill Boars by sneaking in front of them (like literally in front of them) and shoot them in the face with a BB or shotty.
1. Can confirm you can do this. I have noticed some POI's seem designed to try and prevent this, but I just take my time getting the right angle to hit the wardrobe door anyway. I think you can do this even without sneaking, and with a noisy gun, but I cant remember for certain. Wardrobe sleepers seem to only activate based on your proximity or trigger points. As in, you can't sneak past these in my experience.
I actually like that you can surprise a sleeper this way, but do agree that the noise not waking them up seems off. At the same time though, I am so used to this game's noise oddities that I barely miss a step over it now. I mean, if an outside Z can hear me opening a cupboard while the one 2m away from me inside can't, I kind of just give up on any sense of immersion or reality after that nonsense.
2. I think this is because they want the helmet light to affect your ability to sneak, but also dont want too much emphasis on zombie sight. They prefer the idea of Z's hearing us rather than seeing us. So turning on the light makes it more LIKELY that the Z's will notice you, but not until you make a sound. Realistic? Not really, but I think its intentional and I understand why they did it.
3. This one is a bit of an issue for me in only certain POIs. You'd have to do some testing and pick out each one if you want them to take notice of this, I think. My main issue was at day 2 or something and I had a cottage to raid for a quest. I had stone arrows and a primitive bow, a stone sledge, that sort of thing, and this quest threw me a damn radiated feral angry granddad. I had cleared the entire cottage besides the basement where this ass was sitting, but the only way in was directly in his line of sight or down a ladder. Knowing you cant stealth down a ladder, I knew I was done for, but I tried anyway. Of course I died. again and again. Each time I died, he despawned. But each time I revisited the cottage, he would respawn as sleeper volume. He would only spawn after I had descended at least 2 rungs of the ladder. So I thought I'd be smart and chop away the floor. I chopped away almost the entire floor before realising the game would not spawn him until i got down to his level. This was probably the singly most frustrating time ive ever had and I believe i stopped playing for a while because after I had gone to extreme lengths to kill him, there was no fancy loot down there anyway and ofc my quest was long gone. Very bad experience. Luckily im long term hooked on the game already.
4. I remember this being a problem in previous alphas, but in this one I haven't noticed because piggies are near the top of my list of entities not to @%$*#! with until i have a gun with a decent amount of ammo!
SnowDog1942 said:
Stealth blah blah blah who cares , its useless on horde night and its more fun to fight something thats fighting back.
what about spawing in roaming zeds inside of houses when u get close. Now that would be more fun!!
you know, sleepers , that.... arent....sleeping...
Stealth blah blah who cares ..... okay. selfish, but youre entitled to your opinion ... useless on horde night ... actually, see below .... more fun ... again, your opinion. Newsflash: other people have different opinions and that does not make yours or theirs any less valid
I dont know if its intended or a bug, but sometimes on horde night I can get stealth shots while sneaking. Havent tested extensively, but ive noticed it enough to try and remember to pop a squat whenever i can on horde nights.
Roaming Z's in POIs would be cool. More of a challenge to sneak around and score a stealth kill