MechanicalLens
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I read the first part of your comment as "hygiene" lol. "Sure, I'm just going to chug this glass of grain alcohol after every meal!"
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wolfbain5
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well, they tell you to disinfect a wound with alcohol. so if infection is under 1%?
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bloodmoth13
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Yeah thats what i initially though, but i think the infection is supposed to represent an internal infection that your body is already fighting, grain alcohol would be good to fight off a topical infection, which would be confusing so i thought hygiene could be a good alternative since dirty wounds get infected.
For that matter making soap out of fat, crysanthemum and goldenrod could be interesting, but as always there needs to be an excuse to add it. as it is i barely use medical items
bloodmoth13
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My only problem with it is that i never find treasure maps and the digging quests stop at t2 or 3. Of course id hate to deal with a t5 dig quest (dig out a shamway sized hole lol) but i could definitely use more treasure maps.
wolfbain5
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a t5 would be great, dont increase the size. as the circle gets smaller, more zombies show up and at the end... feral mini horde
rubens9311
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I'm not spending an hour of my life on a spammer. Put the minutes where the treasure is or else I will think that you want to sell me your video. Get out of here !!
madmole
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Well it sounds like one, but what he said is true now that I think about it. The game play is good, gathering what you need in the opposite biome but the drink choice is not intuitive. It would be better if it was some hot spicy thing that kept you warm.
Tmodloader
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That's how thugtubers roll
Will there ever be a beverage that gives thermal resist? Gameplay is certainly good but maybe you could change it to like blueberry smoothie and yucca juice tea
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rubens9311
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That's how thugtubers roll
Will there ever be a beverage that gives thermal resist? Gameplay is certainly good but maybe you could change it to like blueberry smoothie and yucca juice tea
Sorry if I was rude to some. But so much internet, so many social networks have managed to transform me into a devil when someone deceives me with their title or sells me something "secretly" :S
Survager
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Can someone explain to me the logic behind the steel arrow recipes in the game?
There are three recipes for arrows / bolts:
- steel booms / bolts
- incendiary arrows / bolts
- explosive arrows / bolts
Why can't a character who has found a recipe for incendiary or explosive arrows / bolts know how to make regular steel arrows / bolts?
Logically, you first need to make a steel arrow / bolt and only then make a reinforced version of this (incendiary / explosive). Incendiary and Explosive Arrow / Bolt recipe has a steel tip.
Maybe it makes sense to add a steel arrow / bolt instead of a steel tip and plastic in the recipe for incendiary and explosive bolts?
Or maybe you should make it so that when learning recipes for Incendiary or Explosive Arrows / Bolts, the recipe for Normal Steel Arrows / Bolts is automatically learned? But in this case, incendiary and explosive variants should be made very rare.
Or, You can make a separate recipe for the steel head, and the player should be able to make steel arrows / bolts without a recipe, in this case it will solve the problem of logic.
Or is there some hidden logic that I couldn't find?
There are three recipes for arrows / bolts:
- steel booms / bolts
- incendiary arrows / bolts
- explosive arrows / bolts
Why can't a character who has found a recipe for incendiary or explosive arrows / bolts know how to make regular steel arrows / bolts?
Logically, you first need to make a steel arrow / bolt and only then make a reinforced version of this (incendiary / explosive). Incendiary and Explosive Arrow / Bolt recipe has a steel tip.
Maybe it makes sense to add a steel arrow / bolt instead of a steel tip and plastic in the recipe for incendiary and explosive bolts?
Or maybe you should make it so that when learning recipes for Incendiary or Explosive Arrows / Bolts, the recipe for Normal Steel Arrows / Bolts is automatically learned? But in this case, incendiary and explosive variants should be made very rare.
Or, You can make a separate recipe for the steel head, and the player should be able to make steel arrows / bolts without a recipe, in this case it will solve the problem of logic.
Or is there some hidden logic that I couldn't find?
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dcsobral
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I heard that random gen is going to be worked on for alpha 20, and I'd like to point out something that I've noticed after looking at map previews for hundreds of seeds (literally -- check https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1E1abSNz0_rsoDd-3AVp6SzxY-AF7eVjMfVNhIXN3X20/edit#gid=997179930 for a list of the seeds I generated on b180 alone).
There's a subtle issue impacting the quality of cities in random gen: a disconnect between block sizes and prefab dimensions.
Let me explain that with images. Take the following city, which is about as big as they can be in alpha 19 stable:
The first thing to notice is how varied the size of each one is. Out of 356 prefabs, 195 do not share dimensions with any other prefab and 80 share it with only one other prefab. Only 38 prefabs share dimensions with more than four others. Note that this isn't about the size of building themselves, but about the "plot" the occupy, including green area.
More importantly, the dimensions of the prefabs do not take into account the actual available space inside a city. In alpha 19 stable each block is 120x120 of usable space unless a road is missing. The space between any two prefabs is 8m, so optimal non-wilderness prefab sizes are 24x24 and 56x56, but there's only one prefab with the first dimension and none with the second. On the other hand, the size shared by most prefabs is 25x25, which inevitably causes empty spaces.
In the case of downtown prefabs, it is even worse. Downtown is at most four blocks in size, but the skyscrapers, which are downtown-only, all exceed 56m in at least one dimension, as you can see here:
The Crack a Book is the only one of them that could fit side-by-side with another one equal to it.
Regardless, the disregard for optimal prefab sizes for cities result in a lot of empty space, like the industrial area of that city:
Unless random gen is made to make roads fit prefab placement, one of the most important things to improve random gen cities is to make prefab dimensions and block sizes a better fit for each other.
PS: I'm only talking about x and z dimensions, not y. Height isn't relevant here. I also sorted x and z before making these statistics, so x,?,z was considered the same size as z,??,x.
There's a subtle issue impacting the quality of cities in random gen: a disconnect between block sizes and prefab dimensions.
Let me explain that with images. Take the following city, which is about as big as they can be in alpha 19 stable:
The first thing to notice is how varied the size of each one is. Out of 356 prefabs, 195 do not share dimensions with any other prefab and 80 share it with only one other prefab. Only 38 prefabs share dimensions with more than four others. Note that this isn't about the size of building themselves, but about the "plot" the occupy, including green area.
More importantly, the dimensions of the prefabs do not take into account the actual available space inside a city. In alpha 19 stable each block is 120x120 of usable space unless a road is missing. The space between any two prefabs is 8m, so optimal non-wilderness prefab sizes are 24x24 and 56x56, but there's only one prefab with the first dimension and none with the second. On the other hand, the size shared by most prefabs is 25x25, which inevitably causes empty spaces.
In the case of downtown prefabs, it is even worse. Downtown is at most four blocks in size, but the skyscrapers, which are downtown-only, all exceed 56m in at least one dimension, as you can see here:
The Crack a Book is the only one of them that could fit side-by-side with another one equal to it.
Regardless, the disregard for optimal prefab sizes for cities result in a lot of empty space, like the industrial area of that city:
Unless random gen is made to make roads fit prefab placement, one of the most important things to improve random gen cities is to make prefab dimensions and block sizes a better fit for each other.
PS: I'm only talking about x and z dimensions, not y. Height isn't relevant here. I also sorted x and z before making these statistics, so x,?,z was considered the same size as z,??,x.
The Gronk
Colon Pounder
Randomizing the horde(s) would be a good thing. It's a little predictable that the instant you open the chest a horde spawns.
There's already a trigger somewhere in the code that detects you digging close to the chest. Rig one of those up to a randomised horde spawner and you'll have to pay a hell of a lot more attention when digging.
My only problem with the new treasure hunt mechanic is that it's far too easy.
At the risk of planting ideas that should never be voiced...
Anything but Pumpkin-Spice-Latte!
The fine threadwork or correct adhesive used to attach bodkin or broadhead is significantly different than wrapping flammable wadding around a practice arrow or gaffa-taping a grenade to a twig?Can someone explain to me the logic behind the steel arrow recipes in the game?
There are three recipes for arrows / bolts:
- steel booms / bolts
- incendiary arrows / bolts
- explosive arrows / bolts
Why can't a character who has found a recipe for incendiary or explosive arrows / bolts know how to make regular steel arrows / bolts?
Logically, you first need to make a steel arrow / bolt and only then make a reinforced version of this (incendiary / explosive). Incendiary and Explosive Arrow / Bolt recipe has a steel tip.
Maybe it makes sense to add a steel arrow / bolt instead of a steel tip and plastic in the recipe for incendiary and explosive bolts?
Or maybe you should make it so that when learning recipes for Incendiary or Explosive Arrows / Bolts, the recipe for Normal Steel Arrows / Bolts is automatically learned? But in this case, incendiary and explosive variants should be made very rare.
Or is there some hidden logic that I couldn't find?
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Adam the Waster
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i mean i think arrows and bolts should be the same so when you're looting you don't find bolts or arrows you just find arrows and arrows work the same as bolts. it could make space for something new but. im going off topicCan someone explain to me the logic behind the steel arrow recipes in the game?
There are three recipes for arrows / bolts:
- steel booms / bolts
- incendiary arrows / bolts
- explosive arrows / bolts
Why can't a character who has found a recipe for incendiary or explosive arrows / bolts know how to make regular steel arrows / bolts?
Logically, you first need to make a steel arrow / bolt and only then make a reinforced version of this (incendiary / explosive). Incendiary and Explosive Arrow / Bolt recipe has a steel tip.
Maybe it makes sense to add a steel arrow / bolt instead of a steel tip and plastic in the recipe for incendiary and explosive bolts?
Or maybe you should make it so that when learning recipes for Incendiary or Explosive Arrows / Bolts, the recipe for Normal Steel Arrows / Bolts is automatically learned? But in this case, incendiary and explosive variants should be made very rare.
Or is there some hidden logic that I couldn't find?
Tmodloader
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Technically going by this logic, once you learn how to make an iron sledgehammer or an iron arrow, you should automatically unlock the steel recipe
BFT2020
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It took me 15 seconds to find the spot where he started looking for the treasure in the video. Didn’t have to watch the entire thing....
Astronomical
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While I totally appreciate the comedy of this post (I lol'd irl) the gyro is actually pretty easy to glide in for a power off landing. Just pitch down trading altitude for airspeed and as you approach the ground or intended point of landing begin to gently level off followed by a shallow flair to soft touch down. Textbook stuff guys!
Roland
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Indeed. It's sad when people let their obvious prejudice against streamers in general overwhelm their judgement. There was nothing at all spam related in posting a video about 7 Days to Die to answer someone's question about 7 Days to Die on the website by the makers of 7 Days to Die. Nothing is being sold and I too just scanned through the video with my mouse on the advancement bar until I saw the orange ring in the images and watched a method it turns out I mildly disagree with....
JCrook1028
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You may want to pay a bit of attention before getting all butthurt. The person who made the video (me) is NOT the person who linked it.... So no, I was not "trying to sell you my video".
Ah yes. Yet another person who didn't pay attention to facts before making an ignorant comment. The person who posted the video was not the person who made it.....
So the real question is. Will we get a drink that helps with the heat?
Aldranon
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I almost hope that heat (the desert) is something you just have to deal with.
As the desert is the only place with the priceless shale that shifts the game into high gear!
I like the feel of going on "an expedition" to get no more than 100,000 worth of gas. I am very careful when mining shale as I took a beating once when I got too greedy and the whole (edit: mine) caved in! Good times!
As the desert is the only place with the priceless shale that shifts the game into high gear!
I like the feel of going on "an expedition" to get no more than 100,000 worth of gas. I am very careful when mining shale as I took a beating once when I got too greedy and the whole (edit: mine) caved in! Good times!
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