Right. That sounds quite like "don't jump to 'lying' too quickly". You've now touched upon a whole lot of nuance on the starter quest, and yet you maintain that everyone who complains about it is just a liar.
Thats why I worded it that way. I’m not the only one who categorizes as an opinion. You say it’s stupid to skip the first 4 skill points. But I’m not going to make the leap that you’re calling people who do that stupid even though you often take that leap when characterizing my opinions. I figure it’s one of the ways you like to troll me.
“Lying” doesn’t have to be with the intent to deceive for nefarious purposes. It can also be along the lines of lying to oneself or not being aware or mindful of what your truly want.
I don’t think anyone is lying in the sense of intentionally trying to ruin the reputation of the game or cause flame wars on the forum. But I maintain that when someone says they think the game is better without the tutorial and first trader beacon because they remember how much they loved finding him on their own through exploration—but then refuse to play that way when they can then it’s not true that they think the game is better without the beacon and tutorial. What’s a good word for saying untruths…?
My original question still remains, why do you do that? Do you expect people to change their mind when they get called a liar? Or do you just expect them to stop bothering (with) you? Or something else - feel free to actually think about it before replying.
I don’t do that all the time. I do it when I believe it’s applicable and in this case I haven’t read anything that convinces me that when someone has a viable option to toggle off a mechanic they say they don’t like but they don’t take that option then they are deceiving themselves. They must like it if better if they refuse to take the option.
I’ve tried different mods and options because I wondered if I would like them better and sometimes I did and sometimes I didn’t. When I didn’t I switched back to how I preferred it to be.
Why do I point that stuff out? Because it’s good to be mindful of what you truly want and what you say you want. This is a forum where we discuss thoughts regarding the gameplay of 7 Days to Die.
I do doubt the person I’m talking to will actually change their persoective but there are many readers and maybe one or two of those might slap their forehead and think “Dang! I could just not do the tutorial challenge group and then I could just find the trader on my own which is something I’ve missed!”
It’s for the readers.
Why do you group people in vague buckets and then paint them all a shade of despicable?
Again, that’s you injecting your assumptions about my intent and making a leap to read my posts in the worst possible light. You’ve admitted you enjoy trolling people and me in particular so it’s no wonder that is one of your tactics. I don’t think nor have I said that anyone who hates the gps handholding to the trader but refuses to play the option that lets them avoid that is despicable. I said they are lying about what they truly want. Not all lies are despicable lies. That is just you taking what I said to the nth nefarious degree because you like trolling me.
(And no, I don't care about the starter quest, I'm just curious what do you feel you get from your underhanded namecalling?)
Pointing out that a statement is a lie given conditions is a far cry from actually underhandedly namecalling. You are the only one who has been slinging the “liar” namecalling around. Just because I think a statement posted on a forum happens to be a lie doesn’t mean I think the person who typed it is a no good dirty despicable liar.
I’m calling it as I see it. A lie. But a pretty innocuous lie about someone’s beliefs about their own feelings regarding a video game. So no I don’t think they’re despicable for that and if other readers think it through and have an epiphany about their own preferences as a result, it’s fine that the person I’m talking to decides to just keep complaining and ignoring the option that would get them what they say they want. And you can keep ascribing to me the worst possible motives and meanings to the words I type to have your fun.
