PC V3.0 Sandbox Siege Dev Diary

[Roland]

Well, in this case you would do well enough with having a memory... a completely valid complaint "about the handholding tutorial ruining the vibe" has been made and it goes roughly as follows:
It's boring But it's basically part of the character creation; it gives your character its specialization. 4 skill points make it really hard, and actually stupid, to skip. That reward is way too strong for a simple boring tutorial, especially when nothing else in game offers straight up skill points.

I’ve done it a few times and it isn’t hard to skip the 4 skill points. They are the easiest and fastest to earn of all your skill points of the entire game and they accrue pretty quickly. You can still create the basis of your character from them.

Don’t jump to “stupid” as the only reason too quickly. Even my mind can conceive of a reason other than stupid to want to earn those first four skill points through gameplay rather than doing the tutorial and getting a gps to the trader. My memory also reveals that just recently someone else was opining that getting a gps beacon to the trader in the first place is one of the modern deficiencies of the game. Trading the easiest four skill points to earn in the game for the glorious gameplay loop of searching and discovering the location of the trader on your own wouldn’t be so stupid to the one who really does want desperately to start the game lost and without hand-holding— but only providing their claim to want that is actually true and not just blowing smoke on the forums. <shrug>.

... Thanks for the feed?

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[theFlu]

Don’t jump to “stupid” as the only reason too quickly.

Right. That sounds quite like "don't jump to 'lying' too quickly". You've now touched upon a whole lot of nuance on the starter quest, and yet you maintain that everyone who complains about it is just a liar.

My original question still remains, why do you do that? Do you expect people to change their mind when they get called a liar? Or do you just expect them to stop bothering (with) you? Or something else - feel free to actually think about it before replying.

Why do you group people in vague buckets and then paint them all a shade of despicable?

(And no, I don't care about the starter quest, I'm just curious what do you feel you get from your underhanded namecalling?)

 

[4sheetzngeegles]

Trading the easiest four skill points to earn in the game for the glorious gameplay loop of searching and discovering the location of the trader on your own wouldn’t be so stupid to the one who really does want desperately to start the game lost and without hand-holding— but only providing their claim to want that is actually true and not just blowing smoke on the forums. <shrug>.

That was funny. I really do that, I know it isn't a popular thought, but I adjust things to recreate
scenarios from the WD series. I play really slow compared to most posts I read. I don't META
check, I am content just trying to survive as long as I can.