FileMachete
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was distracted thinking about why my base failed so didn't complete the sand bit; I think yield is quite low for sand.
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was distracted thinking about why my base failed so didn't complete the sand bit; I think yield is quite low for sand.
Doctor3D
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If I had to guess...
Your stairway is gonna get broke, and then they will all just pile up and beat on the supports. I can't tell by the screenshot, but if those bars are just wood - you're gonna have a rough time if you get cops tomorrow. The cop vomit will just blow all those frames away and you down with it.
Depends on your gamestage and what difficulty you have it set on..you might be OK for tomorrow - but it definitely would need lots of TLC for the harder stuff.
*Edit - nevermind - didn't see the second screenshot.... ya..that's pretty nasty
Thecolours
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Tier 1 quests from traders should be no more than 500m away. Kinda crazy that you get quest that are 7km away and you dont even have a bike yet.
FileMachete
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Update on top-layer Sand yield compared to top-layer Dirt.
Mother Lode-3, Miner69er-2, Iron Shovel, no mods
Sand, 2 swings, 9 Sand & 2 Dirt - no XP
Dirt, 4 swings, 28 Dirt & 2 plant fiber + 10 XP
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@Doctor3D , did I screw up & those thumbnails don't link out to postimages.org? Edit: links seem to work but pics are lower qual than I posted, so hard to see some details, bah
Yep, good eye, only the bars of the floor are Iron Bars (for SI), rest are Wood bars; GS was 60 so hoped none, or not many Cops (none showed thankfully).
I totally shanked it with the stair design, but it's fixable, heh. What I was trying for was cheap-skate just enough build. Only 20 Iron Spikes, no wood spike field. Was hoping that, _if_ they made it all the through the spikes that they'd be down to a trickle and be able to melee through the poles. If stilll too many then was going to pull up wood frames. Bummed I screwed the pooch and couldn't see how it 'should' work. Oh well, live and learn
Mother Lode-3, Miner69er-2, Iron Shovel, no mods
Sand, 2 swings, 9 Sand & 2 Dirt - no XP
Dirt, 4 swings, 28 Dirt & 2 plant fiber + 10 XP
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@Doctor3D , did I screw up & those thumbnails don't link out to postimages.org? Edit: links seem to work but pics are lower qual than I posted, so hard to see some details, bah
Yep, good eye, only the bars of the floor are Iron Bars (for SI), rest are Wood bars; GS was 60 so hoped none, or not many Cops (none showed thankfully).
I totally shanked it with the stair design, but it's fixable, heh. What I was trying for was cheap-skate just enough build. Only 20 Iron Spikes, no wood spike field. Was hoping that, _if_ they made it all the through the spikes that they'd be down to a trickle and be able to melee through the poles. If stilll too many then was going to pull up wood frames. Bummed I screwed the pooch and couldn't see how it 'should' work. Oh well, live and learn
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Lonestarcanuck
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POI - Question
I looted a gas station (the one with the two buildings and the cars in front) I scrapped the cars and put a chest and ladder on one of the buildings. I also looted the Pig/Corn house (Gracie) and that was day 42. well I came back around day 63 and my chest/ladder was gone and the cars and POIs all respawned. same with the Pig/Corn house. everything was new.
my question is does B221 respawn or restore POIs?
I looted a gas station (the one with the two buildings and the cars in front) I scrapped the cars and put a chest and ladder on one of the buildings. I also looted the Pig/Corn house (Gracie) and that was day 42. well I came back around day 63 and my chest/ladder was gone and the cars and POIs all respawned. same with the Pig/Corn house. everything was new.
my question is does B221 respawn or restore POIs?
Jugginator
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Hear me out, what if, say, you guys introducted tiered forges? Basic forge lets you craft an anvil, forged iron and other iron things and is rather easy to make. Next up would be a rock/lead/brass forge which is a bit harder (later mid-early game) to get. Next would be end-game forge (think large furnace from Rust since you mentioned that), that could smelt out steel and, perhaps, the rest of the stuff other forges could do, but also with more smelting slots + maybe faster production. I think that could help that out a bit.
And I agree with you on attributes not being gated. Maybe just let them be bought as you get points, but leave the perks gated? Maybe not all of the perks... I think crafting perks SHOULD be gated either way (esp the forges I mentioned above). That would allow getting stronger faster, but not end-game too fast.
8bitkronik
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From what I understand this game is still in an experimental build, correct?
Here are some of my questions/concerns:
1. Have we confirmed there is an easy way to "mod out" digging Zombies?
2. Player nerfed. As much as I like the new perks and skills the leveling system seems drawn out and tedious.
3. Zombies buffed. I'm glad that zombies can finally jump over obstacles they always should have been able to however I am upset with the unrealistic Super Saiyan jumping. I'm happy with the new path finding AI but I find myself wondering if the zombies were structural geniuses in a past lifetime and can identify, target, and destroy a necessary fulcrum.
It is this reason and others I have heard many others swearing off this alpha (experimental or not). I've been playing since Alpha 15 and I mostly play on console (I play on PC sometimes) but I'm glad I don't have to suffer through experimental builds (just crappy bugs).
From what I understand this game is still in an experimental build, correct?
Here are some of my questions/concerns:
1. Have we confirmed there is an easy way to "mod out" digging Zombies?
2. Player nerfed. As much as I like the new perks and skills the leveling system seems drawn out and tedious.
3. Zombies buffed. I'm glad that zombies can finally jump over obstacles they always should have been able to however I am upset with the unrealistic Super Saiyan jumping. I'm happy with the new path finding AI but I find myself wondering if the zombies were structural geniuses in a past lifetime and can identify, target, and destroy a necessary fulcrum.
It is this reason and others I have heard many others swearing off this alpha (experimental or not). I've been playing since Alpha 15 and I mostly play on console (I play on PC sometimes) but I'm glad I don't have to suffer through experimental builds (just crappy bugs).
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Thecolours
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A survival game set during the black plague would be amazing.
FileMachete
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Idea to prevent rng from having it's way indefinately. (prompted by Meganoths comments)
Assuming there will be a few things like the old Minibikes for Dumb♥♥♥♥s & the Wrench where rng can really be a problem.
Possibly add in a 'Supply Drop Request' mechanic.
Could be something like; in first supply drop there's an instruction sheet saying,
"We know there are survivors, we want to help.
Please fly the supplied colored flags in the combinations detailed to indicate what critical supplies you need.
We'll do our best to get them to you in our next drop."
1) Green only = need Food
2) Medical Flag = need Medical supplies
3) etc
Thinking it would be a 'Base Flagpole' that you build, place, then interact with ('we' wouldn't be actually putting up the flags, the game item would based on our checking a box).
Say 'item x' is required to make 'station y', and balance wise is intended to be found/used at lvl 50+. The Base Flagpole would add an option to ask for item x when a player of lvl ~60+ accesses the interface.
So the 'Supply Request Form' could be a static table, more items displayed as player progresses; basic player lvl check done when Base Flagpole is interacted with.
Could add in % chance on 1st request, greater % chance on 2nd, 100% chance on third.
Kind of convoluted to describe. Hope it makes sense. Bottom line of course is to always have a way to beat rng, in the end. Sure, let him toy with us, make us pray to her, curse him, sacrifice goats in her name, just, in the end, have them be magnamimous
Assuming there will be a few things like the old Minibikes for Dumb♥♥♥♥s & the Wrench where rng can really be a problem.
Possibly add in a 'Supply Drop Request' mechanic.
Could be something like; in first supply drop there's an instruction sheet saying,
"We know there are survivors, we want to help.
Please fly the supplied colored flags in the combinations detailed to indicate what critical supplies you need.
We'll do our best to get them to you in our next drop."
1) Green only = need Food
2) Medical Flag = need Medical supplies
3) etc
Thinking it would be a 'Base Flagpole' that you build, place, then interact with ('we' wouldn't be actually putting up the flags, the game item would based on our checking a box).
Say 'item x' is required to make 'station y', and balance wise is intended to be found/used at lvl 50+. The Base Flagpole would add an option to ask for item x when a player of lvl ~60+ accesses the interface.
So the 'Supply Request Form' could be a static table, more items displayed as player progresses; basic player lvl check done when Base Flagpole is interacted with.
Could add in % chance on 1st request, greater % chance on 2nd, 100% chance on third.
Kind of convoluted to describe. Hope it makes sense. Bottom line of course is to always have a way to beat rng, in the end. Sure, let him toy with us, make us pray to her, curse him, sacrifice goats in her name, just, in the end, have them be magnamimous
A Nice Cup of Tea
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Is there any chance that while we're teamed with someone and close to them we can share all xp rather than just that for killing zombies?
I love being able to set the shared xp radius to larger than the map so we can always work as a party, and it would really make it easier when playing co-op to have one person building and one scavenging and one trading if we don't have to worry about everyone getting xp at different rates for their different activities. If we all shared all xp then it wouldn't matter whether you took on did the xp-rich role or the xp-poor role.
perhaps with the forge, maybe it could be that alot more recipes are gated behind the anvil so that you only have basic options such as getting the raw resources out of it (i dont understand how you dont need an anvil to make forged iron) and have the anvil require a high amount of resources to craft/ make it a quest reward (say 1500-2500 scrap iron and 400 clay).
Re: weapon quality, I always logically expected higher tiers to have a higher rate of fire and damage considering there was a new speed rig attached in A17. Visually seeing a weapon fire faster side by side would make it feel more "elite" and less clunky. I guess it would be pretty hard to balance though. Maybe damage would go down slighty as ROT increased making it overall a better and more perky weapon.
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