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damn! this alpha could be the end of the road for me! It's unplayable... 15 - 25 fps.. Had stable 60 (locked) on a16. My RX570 can't handle it any more.. and I thought performance is about the same as a16.

 
is it possible to add the level or skill needed to each of the perks? for example when I hover over Pack Mule 2, I can't buy it at level 7 but there is nothing that I can see telling me what the pre-reqs are to purchase it.

update - ok I see if I hover over the LOCK I can get the requirements, maybe make the whole string and not just the lock hover sensitive? also check the Hammer and Forge - hover over the lock shows "REQINTELECTLEVEL4" looks like a constant not a string like the rest of them.

 
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I think the devs are more on true survival simulation than causal play and A17e shows it.
Maybe you go play WoW if you want casual or wait for a mod (though most modders make the game harder).

Or play at a lower difficulty level.
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Never have liked WoW ... popular WoTW an Valmod mod actually made game easyer ... and Ravenhearst made it harder (more about grinding) And thats not a secret witch mode was most popular among the servers .. :)

The beautifull thing about this game is that it gives a nice freedom to choose they way u want to play it :)

Tho now it looks that it simply punish you a bit more for not playing the intended way ..

A17 still looks good, and of corse each alpha shapes the game in a bit different direction, its only experimental now, so time will tell how this turns out in future :)

 
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How does the system of zombies reacting to light/sound work?

Do they still react to sounds/light even when you're several blocks underground?

I understand that the developers don't want everyone to just dig down to bedrock and place a base there anymore, but it seems a bit immersion breaking to have zombies be able to hear you that far down... or to have zombies be able to see/hear you while high up in a tall building with many walls/floors between you and the outside.

Some clarification on this functionality would be nice :)

 
damn! this alpha could be the end of the road for me! It's unplayable... 15 - 25 fps.. Had stable 60 (locked) on a16. My RX570 can't handle it any more.. and I thought performance is about the same as a16.
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Welcome to the club. But I think 15-25 is still doable.

Try 12-15 ^^

 
Snow and green biome i never survived long enough. Theres simply nothing to heal you.
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Granted the aloe in the desert is handy.

If there are enough poi's in the desert you are in by all means try it if it works for you.

Looting the non dungeon poi's tho is fairly critical for early supplies, tools and weapons.

You could also grab the healing factor perk for some minor hp regen benefits etc.

Early game being elevated and out of immediate reach is a safe strategy, just watch out for vultures if you are living on a roof :)

Good luck and if you want a hand, yell, I am happy to help out.

Or jump on Guppy's server if you would like to join us for some fun :)

 
On the topic of death penalty.

I have seen a lot of answers to players that feel that it's too harsh should lower their game difficulty.

Well correct me if I'm wrong. But GD doesn't affect buffs and spawn rate. And from what have seen on streams most deaths are connected to the bleedout buff and not pure damage made by zombie or vultures (I haven't died my self so I wouldn't know)

And GD dosent effect the penalty dose it?

What we need is a overhaul on difficulty.

Difficulties could also affect:

Buffs

Xp gain

Stamina

Health

Perk requirements

Death penalty

Its us who think the normal game is too easy who should crank up difficulty and look for mods. Telling casual and new players to mod it, find a mod or play another game is plain ignorant.

That will give the game bad reviews which will inflict on sale...meaning less money for TFP to develop our beloved game.

Insane could have death penalty for a whole week and stack. he'll why not perma death.

What I would like to hear is that insane mode is to hard. Not normal mode :D

 
Snow and green biome i never survived long enough. Theres simply nothing to heal you.
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Well digging deep enought still works at least, 40+ meters deep and they can't hear you. (thats still positive)

But yeah for the horde night its better to choose some random poi rooftop now .. ( we probaply be having alot of destroyed pois on MP servers.. )

 
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this is my first post in 2 years. I have 2 questions:

LOVE A17 so far!

- In de nighttime i get a smoke in the game where i almost see nothing. Is this a bug or my settings?

I have changes alot of settings but nothing changes it.

- When i make a dedicated server for me and my friends, they get a message 'connection timed out'

Or is the dedicated server nog working yet? I did al the same like in A16 for the server.

Thanks for the response!

Keep up the good work.

 
On the topic of death penalty. I have seen a lot of answers to players that feel that it's too harsh should lower their game difficulty.

Well correct me if I'm wrong. But GD doesn't affect buffs and spawn rate. And from what have seen on streams most deaths are connected to the bleedout buff and not pure damage made by zombie or vultures (I haven't died my self so I wouldn't know)

And GD dosent effect the penalty dose it?

What we need is a overhaul on difficulty.

Difficulties could also affect:

Buffs

Xp gain

Stamina

Health

Perk requirements

Death penalty

Its us who think the normal game is too easy who should crank up difficulty and look for mods. Telling casual and new players to mod it, find a mod or play another game is plain ignorant.

That will give the game bad reviews which will inflict on sale...meaning less money for TFP to develop our beloved game.




Insane could have death penalty for a whole week and stack. he'll why not perma death.

What I would like to hear is that insane mode is to hard. Not normal mode :D
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Bingo! :)

 
Thats the point, i cant see a sensefull difficulty by this "out of stamina"Difficulty, or better said the positive form of difficulty what is named a challenge has allways something you can do about it.

after 10 Hours i still see no way to counter the Stamina issue

For me the "out of stamona is only / feels only like"

And thats the (unneeded) kind of stress i cant stand
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invest few points in cardio perk, it helps a lot. in day 2 i can swing my stoneaxe and chop down fully grown tree without resting. pots are relatively easy to find, if you loot house with kitchen. so you need to find one, not stay alone in desert :p

 
LMFAO!!!!!!!!

omg you people just stop already. you complain and whine to have teh game released, now its here and it is too different for you.

all i see if complaint after complaint bout how hard it is. MadMole you spoiled everyone lmao.

the game play is fine adept i did dam i am playing on hard mode and i want more. i have never been this entertained in a longtime. 7 days to die is becoming its own game and it is awesome i hope it gets better. also this is experimenatal so expect a few issues.

stop being lazy and go grind out your levels and hold right mouse run and pause .....Boom run away like a train lol.

This is teh best patch ever teh rest of you just chill.

That's my nickle

 
Thanks for your answer and for pasting your post I've missed about PC spec etc.I'm sorry for my anger last day. I love the game and I will play it, but it hurts me that I can't play this game even on a good PC.

I mean I can... Sometimes I play 20 mins without any freezes, sometimes I get 4-5 freezes in 3 minutes time. I have less than 60 FPS all the time dropping to 15-20 FPS. Video setting doesn't matter. When I play on high I sometimes get less FPS than if I would play on lowest settings possible. It's just random.

I've realized that I won't achieve anything by demanding I will just try to talk about bugs etc. to make the game better. Ehhh. :(

1. When you and your teammate hits something at the exact same time (which happens to me very often) the block does take damage only from one person. I've noticed this bug in 16.4. So let's say you hit a rock together at the same time. Game will react like only 1 person hit the rock.

2. When you hit a bedlamp at night it lights up for 0.2-0.3 sec. It lights up every time you hit it.

3. In randomly generated world sometimes buildings are flying in the air. I had an issue with it. I've entered a small city. 2 buildings were flying. I was looking at perks, drinking tea, when I closed perks tab, one of the buildings colapsed.

4. When you fight and click too many times to attack, character will make 2 swings instead of one.

EDIT: Rolland. I'am glad you explained what you meant by emojis. Thank you for your time. I still disagree with it and I think it wasn't appropriate at the time but I think you are not a bad person. Maybe you really didn't mean to troll some part of the community. Let's leave it behind.
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Just turn down Shadows to None and Tree Details to lowest.

 
invest few points in cardio perk, it helps a lot. in day 2 i can swing my stoneaxe and chop down fully grown tree without resting. pots are relatively easy to find, if you loot house with kitchen. so you need to find one, not stay alone in desert :p
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allready done

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Btw died by a collapsing tunnel (again such a thing you cant really do anything against)

So again from scratch

Hopefully i find this time a pot

 
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AI pathing is better in A17e, but I've noticed it's not perfect. Is the AI pathing only improved for bloodmoon hordes, or should it be applied to all zombies?

If it should be applied to all I might need to make a post in the bug thread as I had a zombie start hitting a wall to go through it, but there was already a doorway right next to the wall it decided needed to go.

 
It will not help.
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Helps for me. Maybe you need better PC components. Currently on i7 6700 + 1070 with 32GB ram.

It's a Voxel so, if you're in some kind of City, or high ground you're rendering excessive blocks.

 
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