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I actually like having the not so big backpack. The choices that you have to make when you have a full bag and you just killed a zed that has some loot that you really want but you do not know what to drop, as another zed is approaching you. It is like playing hot potato and you have to think fast or get hit, or leave the loot behind. What would you do? If you have a big bag, it is like bringing a suitcase on a camping trip.
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I like how you think.

 
I understand your point but i dont think making progression of scavanging faster is on the agenda and more likely the opposite.I think you already decribe the extra effort you have to put in to make sure you get full loot respawn and i know from my experience after a real long loot session it gets tedious but there is no fix for that.

You will just loot more pushing your loot levels up and then the loot containers will need to placed more sparcely it will be never ending adjustment.

I am not sure about how to improve the looting experience but i suppose if you have to make too many trips or a location has too much to loot in one go then more bases are needed.

I understand PVP that it doesnt work the same but the element of someone looting an area before you and leaving you garbage or even better a candy tin is part of the competivness.

Not trying to be negative but i believe the exponantial slope of progression needs to be tough otherwise the game loses its challenge but i understand tedious is not fun for gameplay so tough choices.

This is just my view it would be good to hear what others think.
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Also, one mans garbage is another man's treasure. What you may throw away I may need or want. I also leave excess items behind for the next person, some of these servers have 30 or more days before loot respawn which might be fine for owners and admins but is annoying for casual players on multiplayer servers.

 
What an interesting reply full of twists and turns of emotion i will be honest there are parts i dont understand or quite follow but i only have one brain and its never rational, not sure about comparing peoples toil and trouble to a meer morsel of rotting chicken flesh i was also slightly suprised by MM post but to compare my feelings to an elated canine isnt how i would describe if my mood was more elevated but eveyones different and thats what makes the world interesting.
So come on MadMole throw us some more putrid out of date remanufactured meat biproducts you know the stuff you and your team call work.
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Hahaha xD

It's just that bikes seem kind of standard, you know? And it's awfully 'late game' to be adding something that seems very basic, despite 7D still being late in its infancy.

As for the one year updates and whatnot, with their small team it's not anywhere near what it should be in terms of delivery (amount and functionality) of content, and because of that we as players have learned to just take what we are given, and the fanboi army insists we are grateful for it.

But like I said, they have a much bigger team now, that means more man hours per individual doing what they like :D

I really hope we see a big takeoff, and one thing MM should do is get a video up of that bike as soon as poss!

 
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Nice, better bike riding is connected with the stamina drain. I know we will have a tough moments on the bike so an icon in the compass will be good idea too, just as bike. Or for all vehicles.

Thank you !

 
Okay, Okay Aldranon....
Will we be able to attach an airship to that bike?
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Why... yes! Yes of course we can! When talking AIRSHIPS, the answer is always yes! :)

Fun? Yes!

Amazing adventure? Yes!

Zombie bear assault teams? YES!

Basket for holding stuff? Well, lets not get excessive... OK ok, yes.

 
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I actually like having the not so big backpack. The choices that you have to make when you have a full bag and you just killed a zed that has some loot that you really want but you do not know what to drop, as another zed is approaching you. It is like playing hot potato and you have to think fast or get hit, or leave the loot behind. What would you do? If you have a big bag, it is like bringing a suitcase on a camping trip.
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Agree, backpack size are just fine the way it is. I know some don't think so and will disagree and that is fine. The only issue I have is the stack items need more work. We increased a few things awhile back in wood, stone and such. Personally think 6000 was a big jump but ok whatever but look at water you can only carry 15 a stack but how many murky water? I just don't understand that. I think it all needs to be thought and redone but that is my opinion. But I think backpack slots has enough slots as is.

 
New vehicle system is coming along!
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Shawn has been working ■■■■■■■ a new vehicle system! All new real physics, no falling through the world, feels so natural now!

Yes the old stuff is gone, RIP. New physics are great, feels like GTA.

Hopefully [bikes can be painted] at some point. Its very easy to mod in other colors.
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so to peddle this we have to spam alternate left and right arrow keys to make it move?

 
Funny. Vehicles is something that I'm not looking towards. I mean, I'll take it gladly, but I was ok with the bike -- then again, mine never fell through the world.
I'd like something to do at higher levels, while I work on bigger bases. Looting isn't fun because the loot is useless, and there just isn't enough (or interesting enough) challenges.

But, most of all, I'd like improved zombie AI. The breadcrumb system looks interesting, but the fact is that I'll take anything that makes the zombies more challenging outside increasing their damage, their hp or their number.
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from a gamer stand point, mindless zombies can only get a little better. these are after all Romero type with a few oddities added in. the difficult from this point will be the raiders and bandits.

 
What is that a mine sweeper ? please no if we have that for a counter for wasteland mines what the hell are they going to introduce to counter the minesweeper?
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that is in the game already. the rocket launcher at the driver's windows

 
so to peddle this we have to spam alternate left and right arrow keys to make it move?
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Or you can attach an engine to it and you have a Moped!

Ahh the times I had in Hawaii buzzing around on my moped, entertaining the tourist chicks in Waikiki! When I got my car, my two fellow Marines and I had a nice scam going. We would go out and look for two or three tourist girls in a bar. Eventually we would blurt out and proclaim one of us as a virgin! The "Virgin" would protest in an embarrassed way and then magic would happen! It was beautiful. :)

So I said all that to say bikes are fun!

 
Hey MM, Gazz can we get a 7.62 ap or an exp round added to the game? something found, not made. Mostly to help out with those ■■■■ed bullet sponges. I mean we have ways of loading alternate ammo and we have access to military bases. Just a thought.

edit: Not liking the way irradiated feral zeds have been handled. 32 head shots? seriously bad.

 
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from a gamer stand point, mindless zombies can only get a little better. these are after all Romero type with a few oddities added in. the difficult from this point will be the raiders and bandits.
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Yes i suppose there is a limit to actual intelligence of the zombie but there is still room for refinement and also task and pathing scripting on different block types and also how the zombies pathing behavior behaves when in groups or different types of zombies could be explored.

You mention Romero type zombie , do you remember Bub from dawn of the dead ? there was a thread in dreams about factions and mentioned zombies being trained or regaining abilities i am not sure about the idea or really thought about it just thought i would mention it.

 
New vehicle system is coming along!
DLaZ17HU8AEGu8o.jpg


Shawn has been working ■■■■■■■ a new vehicle system! All new real physics, no falling through the world, feels so natural now!

Yes the old stuff is gone, RIP. New physics are great, feels like GTA.

Hopefully [bikes can be painted] at some point. Its very easy to mod in other colors.
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THIS IS GREAT NEWS

And you now its hard to make me excited

 
Or you can attach an engine to it and you have a Moped!
Ahh the times I had in Hawaii buzzing around on my moped, entertaining the tourist chicks in Waikiki! When I got my car, my two fellow Marines and I had a nice scam going. We would go out and look for two or three tourist girls in a bar. Eventually we would blurt out and proclaim one of us as a virgin! The "Virgin" would protest in an embarrassed way and then magic would happen! It was beautiful. :)

So I said all that to say bikes are fun!
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with 15 bars within 2 feet of any gate there and STDs even closer...

 
It's barely in so the hud will be appropriate when its more polished. Cars? No. Cars would get stuck and be useless with the conditions of the roads. Big armored 4x4 off road vehicle? Yes.
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So what your suggesting is that while your not planning cars. You are planning to put in 4x4's? Is that it?

 
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