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I don’t like those words
I get that, it's an acceptable opinon based feeling. What is not acceptable however, is you expecting them to adjust their words to your liking. I like those words and don't think they need change them nor should they. We both have oposing feels about "it's done when it's done". Neither one of us is right or wrong because Neither one of us has any say in the matter, nor the right to. 

I still cannot imagine any modern business using “when it’s done”
You don't have to imagine, because the business called: The Fun Pimps Entertainment LLC, which was founded in late 2012* (a modern buiness) has and currnetly still uses that phrase.     ...... That's the entire reason for this discussion.

*as stated from the business websites company page

still haven’t been show an example of a business using them
No one needs to show you anything. There is nothing to prove to you. If not being shown examples somehow makes your feelz about the phrase more validating..... 

I would not let people I manage use those words to external customers.
What you do or don't do within your own company scope is entirely your business. Last I looked that scope does not include management of TFP, therefore what you would or wouldn't do is of no concern to them. 

My advise to you about this subject, learn to deal internally about things you don't like that you can't change. Lifes to short. Take the advise or don't, either way it's a you problem, and Yes, I'd say it all to your face. Cheers! 

 
"If" doesn't count. Do you know someone who enjoys weapon and armor crafting in A20?
Enjoy is the wrong choice of words here. I would rather call it utilizing. And yes I have crafted large parts of my gear in A20. I fully crafted my iron armor and later my steel armor before replacing the steel armor with looted Q6 steel armor pieces. I also crafted my steel sledgehammer and pump shotgun. The latter is why there aren't many lanterns left in my hometown.

And no, I didn't recraft the armor or the weapons in different quality levels over and over again. I didn't have enough parts for that.

 
Enjoy is the wrong choice of words here. I would rather call it utilizing. And yes I have crafted large parts of my gear in A20. I fully crafted my iron armor and later my steel armor before replacing the steel armor with looted Q6 steel armor pieces. I also crafted my steel sledgehammer and pump shotgun. The latter is why there aren't many lanterns left in my hometown.

And no, I didn't recraft the armor or the weapons in different quality levels over and over again. I didn't have enough parts for that.
For me it is always loot, by the time I collect parts I already get level 6 from loot. So why bother crafting at all. 

 
For me it is always loot, by the time I collect parts I already get level 6 from loot. So why bother crafting at all. 
It depends in A20 where you loot. I spend most of my time in the green biome. There I can usually craft things before I find them. In the wasteland or in the snow it might be the other way around. But where I get a lot of good gear are quests. The rewards for T3 and T4 quests are mostly ahead of my crafting skills.

 
Ah, right.

Let me just correct the sentence above, you did not receive a ton of resentement, you received a ton of opposition. Resentment happened because of word choices (if I remember correctly).

And now for a proper reply to the original question:

"If" doesn't count. Do you know someone who enjoys weapon and armor crafting in A20?
Ok

"If" still counts. By the logic I'm often countered with here, you have to limit yourself to looting and trader rewards in order to enjoy crafting. Very weak mechanics does not mean useless (according to the logic of the defenders of any hole in the balance)

 
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I get that, it's an acceptable opinon based feeling. What is not acceptable however, is you expecting them to adjust their words to your liking. I like those words and don't think they need change them nor should they. We both have oposing feels about "it's done when it's done". Neither one of us is right or wrong because Neither one of us has any say in the matter, nor the right to. 

You don't have to imagine, because the business called: The Fun Pimps Entertainment LLC, which was founded in late 2012* (a modern buiness) has and currnetly still uses that phrase.     ...... That's the entire reason for this discussion.

*as stated from the business websites company page

No one needs to show you anything. There is nothing to prove to you. If not being shown examples somehow makes your feelz about the phrase more validating..... 

What you do or don't do within your own company scope is entirely your business. Last I looked that scope does not include management of TFP, therefore what you would or wouldn't do is of no concern to them. 

My advise to you about this subject, learn to deal internally about things you don't like that you can't change. Lifes to short. Take the advise or don't, either way it's a you problem, and Yes, I'd say it all to your face. Cheers! 
I still don’t like those words. Why people DAYS later after I said it in regards to a meme is weird.

Enjoy yourself today.

To summarize:

people said somehow no business relates to the pimps or is equivalent to the pimp

And everyone does this but for reasons nobody can show a current business doing this except a guy 10 years ago who said it during an interview

Somehow I’m the one who has a problem because I responded to a meme

I do not like “When it’s done” it is unlikely I will change my opinion. I have not asked anything of development, I have said frequently they could simply say “we don’t give dates or timeframes” or just about anything other than “when it’s done”

 
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Ok

"If" still counts. By the logic I'm often countered with here, you have to limit yourself to looting and trader rewards in order to enjoy crafting. Very weak mechanics does not mean useless (according to the logic of the defenders of any hole in the balance)


I can't say anything about the arguments of others. Also my answer to stills was merely listing what I think the developers intention was. Though I have always said that the trader is too OP for my taste and I would like him balanced. And so I am glad this is done. But I have a friend who likes how the trader is OP now and would like the trader to stay unchanged.

Whenever TFP changes the game it will usually disappoint some players and delight some others. If you lump those two groups together there is no surprise you get mixed signals out of that group.

 
I still don’t like those words. Why people DAYS later after I said it in regards to a meme is weird.

Enjoy yourself today.

To summarize:

people said somehow no business relates to the pimps or is equivalent to the pimp

And everyone does this but for reasons nobody can show a current business doing this except a guy 10 years ago who said it during an interview

Somehow I’m the one who has a problem because I responded to a meme

I do not like “When it’s done” it is unlikely I will change my opinion. I have not asked anything of development, I have said frequently they could simply say “we don’t give dates or timeframes” or just about anything other than “when it’s done”
Hunkay. You're being somewhat ridiculed my man. Step away from it all. Your point is well taken by me. May I suggest you join us in another conversation/topic? 

We can't fight memes very well. 

I hope you have enjoyed the game thus far, and that you will give A21 a try.

Only a suggestion on my part. I do think we could have fun discussing other aspects of the game. But memes? Too late, they're entrenched.

 
any plans on performace improvemtens for A21 ?
There is always a level of performance improvements set for each alpha.  But don't expect any real improvements on your end until it is fully released, and not in an alpha stage.

The main goal is to get the content in, then adjust performance to be playable, then when it is ready to go gold they will deep dive on improving performance.

 
This may have been asked before but...

Any changes to the crawling mechanic for A21? Perhaps something to stop the zombies from suddenly starting to breakdance in the middle of combat?


God , I hope so. It would be nice to see this fixed, it's annoying to have them suddenly start crawling for no reason.

 
While I can understand the annoyance I kind of like it. It adds a bit of flavor to the otherwise simple combat. 


I dunno, I'm kind of sick of zombies magically "dodging" shots at the last second, whether due to deciding to crawl for no reason, or having such jittery movement decide to pretend to be Neo from the Matrix.

Also getting sick of arm shots spraining/breaking my legs and vice versa.

 
you know Saven is gonna have an absolute field day with this. I can see how it's funny, but I can also see how many people will be up in arms about it
Sure, sure…more likes and subscribes for him. His part in the parody is the mildest and shortest bit of all. I mean it’s not like Saven fans are going to hold him  to be more sacred and will be less forgiving of a joke at his expense than they would be about using Hitler as reference humor in the first place right?

 
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