JCrook1028
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You're missing the point. In THIS industry and THIS circumstance it is a perfectly valid and accurate response. Just because you don't accept it does not change that fact.
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meilodasreh
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Also there was nothing that specified this coming Christmas 2022,
so meganoth wouldn't have lied even if he gave the answer "yes, it will for sure be released before Christmas" ...2025.
btw. Dec6th it's A20s birthday...and ideas for a proper present for the little sh@&?
so meganoth wouldn't have lied even if he gave the answer "yes, it will for sure be released before Christmas" ...2025.
btw. Dec6th it's A20s birthday...and ideas for a proper present for the little sh@&?
Fanatical_Meat
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Show me another entity in this industry that uses the term instead for saying something to the effect:
it will be ready in days/weeks/months/years
Being general is fine, I find “When it’s done an incomplete and boarder line trolling answer. The statement offers zero value.
wolfbain5
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Jost Amman
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No, again. You got it all wrong.
I wasn't asking info, I was asking when they estimate some info will be finally released to the public.
Fanatical_Meat, instead, was demanding for a release date because he said it's unacceptable to reply "it's done when it's done".
Do I have to spell it out for you? This is also my last post on the matter, but please, stop projecting someone else's attitude on me.
Fanatical_Meat
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Where do I find this?
I see no mention also it appears to be some crappy casino(?) game site *I think*.
I highly doubt the Pimps want to have a business like presented.
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Fanatical_Meat
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Where is that? I do not see what you are saying listed.
BTW I did a ninja edit about while you were posting.
Fanatical_Meat
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Where did you get I am demanding?
I am not. I am perfectly fine with “we don’t give dates” or better “we are trying make it by end of the year and it may slip”
I do not like “When it’s done” because no answer was given.
Uhh? I was assuming you were joking when you said something about me saying something yesterday about the alpha release. If that was serious, please show me a link where I said that.
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Jost Amman
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Well, you said yourself that "it's done when it's done" is unacceptable.
Logic would suggest that the opposite is required then: if between A and B you can only accept "NOT A", then you're basically leaving B as the only answer.
Fanatical_Meat
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Plenty of other word choices to “When it’s done” as Hitler said it is rude/disrespectful.Well, you said yourself that "it's done when it's done" is unacceptable.
Logic would suggest that the opposite is required then: if between A and B you can only accept "NOT A", then you're basically leaving B as the only answer.
Yes, and surely we should take whatever Hitler says as truth, especially with such a reliable translation
Seriously. "when it's done" seems to have been coined by the company that developed Duke Nukem and especially Duke Nukem Fourever. As such it became a meme just like Bill Gates "you only ever need 640k RAM" for example. Everyone **usually** knows what it means. Except you as you still seem to complain about it having no message, no information. It also fits the tongue-in-cheek communication that TFP maintains with the community of players.
Pernicious
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Not sure if you changed tack since yesterday, or I cut in at the wrong part of the argument (Yesterday you seemed to be saying no other industry accepts vague deadlines, today you seem to be okay with vague deadlines, but don't like the phrasing).
But, if it's just the phrasing you don't like, then it may be that you just don't get the industry "in joke". But it's such a common in joke (i.e. at least from 25 years ago when I did my degree) that it's now on mainstream media, in Wkitionaries, etc.
https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/RealSoonNow
https://www.firstpost.com/tech/news-analysis/john-carmack-of-id-software-says-doom-4-will-be-done-when-its-done-3605111.html
It's not meant to be rude, it's an industry in joke.
Fanatical_Meat
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Quick points I am fine and have been fine with them saying we don’t give dates. I am not fine with semi trolling of when it’s ready.
I am sure the fun pimps want to follow Duke Nukem 4 (sarcasm). Point being is the last person to used it went bankrupt.
Pernicious
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Err, no? The article I linked was to Doom 4. Doom 3 by the same author was a pretty big success by a 30 year old company
bdubyah
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They've been saying for years they don't give dates. And yet people like you keep asking. And you expect them not to have a little fun with it? "Done when it's done" isn't trolling; it's kind of simply a fact, really. Not sure why you are getting so butthurt about it.
Fanatical_Meat
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I’m not asking.
I am saying “When it’s done” is a rude non answer.
We don’t give dates is a perfectly fine answer & policy.
Apologies I think I got links mixed up.
that was 10 years ago.