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Jost Amman
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I disagree. It impacts farming yields. If I put up a farm as a food source, I'll be consuming produce/crops much more on 120/day than the guy on 30/day, since in my game the crops grow "slower" (unless I'm mistaken and those timers are RT too).
So, on average, IMO food survival on longer settings is a bit tougher, not easier.
And that's another downside of playing 120/day, you'll burn many more calories because you'll constantly be doing "stuff" to get what you need.
Exactly! And after they change vanilla as you asked, you can go around and tell everybody YOU were right! :whoo:
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Outlaw_187
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Boiled meat.....this is one that has always got me. Is it just me or doesn't that just sound completely disgusting?
I never make it in the game, idk, I just refuse to. I know it gives hydration along with food & health but I just can't do it.
Hell I'll even eat dog or cat food while I'm out looting, which is also disgusting, but I refuse to make boiled meat, lol
I never make it in the game, idk, I just refuse to. I know it gives hydration along with food & health but I just can't do it.
Hell I'll even eat dog or cat food while I'm out looting, which is also disgusting, but I refuse to make boiled meat, lol
Jost Amman
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Easy: if the knife is in that crafting series, then THAT is the tree which allows you to craft the knife.
Unless, the recipe is in both trees I guess, so in that case I suspect the higher one counts...
Are you joking? Where do you leave? You have never got boiled meat in your life?? :suspicious:Boiled meat.....this is one that has always got me. Is it just me or doesn't that just sound completely disgusting?
I never make it in the game, idk, I just refuse to. I know it gives hydration along with food & health but I just can't do it.
Hell I'll even eat dog or cat food while I'm out looting, which is also disgusting, but I refuse to make boiled meat, lol
I suggest you try some boiled chicken, sliced and ground, and put some mustard on top! :untroubled:
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beerfly
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What about the secret pigeon sauce. (Michelin restaurants` favorite thing in the Apocalypse) ?
Oh, no jars, I get it.
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Thanks for confirming Roland! This is actually a relief as I couldn't not scrap every can I saw
so, what I am understanding is don't update the game past alpha 20. like Minecraft where people just play 9.7 because that version was better. cause reading this makes it sound like how I like to play wont be viable anymore. duct tape and glue is what holds everything together.
this is my thoughts : As I already Read the dev's saying "adopt a new play style " reasons " I'm having a Ton of fun with my melee only base " this statement is "sucks to be you, we don't care" . While I understand some thing this is not the type of comments that should be given as it is very dismissive of how a chosen set of people like to play. there are a few thing like comments of "you could play on nightmare mode" but it is starting to feel like the games default setting is going to do that for us and the option might as well be removed. but what do I know I already play with 25% loot zombies always run, and horde night is every 3 days having water and food for my style of play is hard enough to maintain.
but again this statement of "adopt a new play style" Simply will not work for me. Are the Fun Pimps going to fix some of the bugs where players will fall through solid blocks and get stuck till someone punches them ? what about the when setting down turrets and them falling through the world ? just a few things I am sure they already know are bigger issues. we already have auger hand zombies 2 types of exploding zombies and a constant need to replant a garden. could we get some farm animals to raise we already get packs of wolves and dogs to attack or a few bears.
why not introduce food poisonings for items that sit around in you inventory for so long ? because the game should feel so zombie survival real that people dont even want to play it anymore because it's getting to much like real life and less like a game you would play for fun at that point ?
eating a can of beans or cat food should run the risk of depleting water and health. you have that burnt meat that makes you deplete water already. the problem I am seeing is there "Are" ways to balance the food and water issue already. what I am looking at right now with these changes are two things.
How I play the game is not seen as a valid way of playing. and two I likely need to find a new game to play. as for now I know I will not be updating the game. unless it actually get out of Alpha to a finished game product to give it a real test as an actual game. as things sit I dont think i want to sink any more time into a game that already as hard as life is right now.
in closing I thank the dev's that actually made the game fun up until auger hand zombies where I was told " dont build under ground " because I like living like a dwarf.
this is my thoughts : As I already Read the dev's saying "adopt a new play style " reasons " I'm having a Ton of fun with my melee only base " this statement is "sucks to be you, we don't care" . While I understand some thing this is not the type of comments that should be given as it is very dismissive of how a chosen set of people like to play. there are a few thing like comments of "you could play on nightmare mode" but it is starting to feel like the games default setting is going to do that for us and the option might as well be removed. but what do I know I already play with 25% loot zombies always run, and horde night is every 3 days having water and food for my style of play is hard enough to maintain.
but again this statement of "adopt a new play style" Simply will not work for me. Are the Fun Pimps going to fix some of the bugs where players will fall through solid blocks and get stuck till someone punches them ? what about the when setting down turrets and them falling through the world ? just a few things I am sure they already know are bigger issues. we already have auger hand zombies 2 types of exploding zombies and a constant need to replant a garden. could we get some farm animals to raise we already get packs of wolves and dogs to attack or a few bears.
why not introduce food poisonings for items that sit around in you inventory for so long ? because the game should feel so zombie survival real that people dont even want to play it anymore because it's getting to much like real life and less like a game you would play for fun at that point ?
eating a can of beans or cat food should run the risk of depleting water and health. you have that burnt meat that makes you deplete water already. the problem I am seeing is there "Are" ways to balance the food and water issue already. what I am looking at right now with these changes are two things.
How I play the game is not seen as a valid way of playing. and two I likely need to find a new game to play. as for now I know I will not be updating the game. unless it actually get out of Alpha to a finished game product to give it a real test as an actual game. as things sit I dont think i want to sink any more time into a game that already as hard as life is right now.
in closing I thank the dev's that actually made the game fun up until auger hand zombies where I was told " dont build under ground " because I like living like a dwarf.
what if you don't have either ? what if you walk every where always moving and needing to set up a small shelter that may not hold up for your game stage? just asking cause I want to know
You mean you are not in walking distance of a POI, ANY POI before nightfall on 240 minute days? Nonsense
Boiled meat.....this is one that has always got me. Is it just me or doesn't that just sound completely disgusting?
I never make it in the game, idk, I just refuse to. I know it gives hydration along with food & health but I just can't do it.
Hell I'll even eat dog or cat food while I'm out looting, which is also disgusting, but I refuse to make boiled meat, lol
Have you ever eaten a beef or chicken soup? Then you have eaten pieces of boiled meat. Meat gets done at about 65 degrees Celcius already (you might google "Sous Vide") and in a cooking pot it gets boiled at 100 degrees for a long time so even the center of the meat is a long time at a safe temperature.
Even more strange: If you eat a grilled steak that is less than "well done", the meat in the center has never reached the temperature you apply on the outside, was probably just above 65 degrees for a short time and it is more raw and less well cooked than anything in a soup.
Even more strangerer: Have you never eaten Sushi? Well, ...
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you do understand that some players do try to avoid POI's Traders and Towns. I am not saying its not doable and you do have people like me with absolutely no time management skill what so ever and are always in the dark doing things. I mean the game is marketed as a "Sandbox" where you should need POI or Trader's to play
Most sandboxes (except for total sandboxes like Gerrys Mod) still have rules the player has to adapt to. For example you can't just sink into the ground or hover in the sky in this game and this was always the case. Zombies can kill you so you need to fight or hide from them. I could go on and on giving examples
If you want complete freedom you have to activate god mode and creative mode, otherwise there are still lots of rules.
Do you even avoid secluded POIs in the wilderness (there are lots of those too) ?
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so funny thing the wife said to me during our morning coffee made me realize why I'm liking 7 days less and less it no longer "feels" like a Sandbox game it feels like a very bad RPG without a story. I think I understand what the cause of it is now that I think about it. a Sandbox Game shouldn't need me to "adopt a new playstyle" I should be able to play the game how I want and have player agency. With the constant "your not playing the game how we want you to play it" updates and changes where players air the concerns about their player agency being remove the more the game isn't a SandBox game I honestly think this is why the game updates we keep getting just make's playing the game a chore less fun more like world or warcraft with no factions. I honestly think the game no longer feels like a sand box when your told by dev's that how you like to play in a sand box game where how you like to play is always punished or told to adopt a new way or being forced to play in away you don't find fun but its how they want you to play. that's just not a sandbox anymore. Go figure it takes the wife pointing it out for me to see it.
I have tried to avoid them before and yes there are a lot of them. my favorite thing to do was to bore into a mountain and just dig out large tunnels and such. get crafty with a stone axe and carved a stone dwarf statue. but then auger hand zombies became a thing and that style of play something I could no longer do. I was quite happy being able to create my own under world. and with every update it just seems like less of a Sandbox game and more like a RPG with no story. I left for a while came back cause some friends asked me to play with them. A lot has changed from 17. I used to love this game now ... eh just feels very forced into "only one way to play" with the next update
Jost Amman
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@sinpathic: everyone is entitled to play as they like. However, you should consider that the game is developed by devs who want to put in it their own vision and not the player's. So, my suggestion is to use mods to "correct" whatever you don't like and have fun. That's why the devs made the game to be easily moddable in the first place.
there's mods for the game? well that could change things considerably. got any suggestion for places to get those ?
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Damolann
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Gamida
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Cans are gone too? Man, the zombie apocalypse just keeps getting worse and worse. Am thinking if the real one is like this I am not going to enjoy it.
Guppycur
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Ew. Just ew.
...you linked a site that simply parses the forum *we are actually on* and does it so slow that it creates support issues because people are not getting updated mod info.
Ignore him new guy.
Check the Mods section here.
...and if you stumble across Nexus then be forewarned that their mod installer (vortex) can break mods, so install all mods manually.
Or use Sphereii's mod launcher.
Dreyseth
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Doh! Long time player here and I had no idea. I've actually avoided higher-quality meals thinking that they would be wasted; carrying them around forever until I accidentally find myself starving and only then consuming them.
Maybe the food bar could wrap around to the beginning to indicate the extra, kind of like how the XP bar currently does double duty showing the XP deficit on death penalty. This might go a long way to help indicate how things are working. I'm certain that there is at least one more player out there that could use this vital info.