PC Alpha 20 Dev Diary
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Beelzebubs Ghost
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Who is this @Kuosimodo person who is going through all my posts disliking and facepalming them? And why?
You know you may address me and discuss something you object to. Dislikes are less productive than good old fashioned conversation
You know you may address me and discuss something you object to. Dislikes are less productive than good old fashioned conversation
BananaCustard
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I don't know where you all are finding too much loot... I'm on day 4, loot 100%, found sod all ammo (except magnum??!) and zero guns.
Takes 3 face shots with a pipe shotgun to take down one regular zombie (insane difficulty), so occasionally I get enough bullets to take out one of the around 20 that's hiding in each POI. Unless it's a biker dude. If athletics still levelled by running mine would be at 100 already.
Just found a claw hammer so I can finally make a workbench.
Loving it so far. Laughed for about 20 minutes at the paper I keep finding in the toilets. Why has it got writing on it? Did the world run out of actual toilet paper and start wiping their butts with books?
Takes 3 face shots with a pipe shotgun to take down one regular zombie (insane difficulty), so occasionally I get enough bullets to take out one of the around 20 that's hiding in each POI. Unless it's a biker dude. If athletics still levelled by running mine would be at 100 already.
Just found a claw hammer so I can finally make a workbench.
Loving it so far. Laughed for about 20 minutes at the paper I keep finding in the toilets. Why has it got writing on it? Did the world run out of actual toilet paper and start wiping their butts with books?
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Blake_
Captain Obvious
I love Insane difficulty. But It demands too much of me for my taste and I usually die after 10 hours in with that setting. I prefer Warrior difficulty with day Jog and Nightmare everything else. Blood Moon 64 Zds and Feral Sense All. Days of 16 hours so the night lasts until 6 AM and 2 hour days for longer hordes and longer nights. A20 also has crazy random values on some crafted clothing which is a nice touch, I love spam crafting if it's limited to crafting 10 items or so. Great change !
What I found out about a20 RWG:
-Restarting the game resets trader quests. That is not cool and an exploit.
@Kinyajuu-related problems:
What I absolutely love:
Everything else .
What I found out about a20 RWG:
-Restarting the game resets trader quests. That is not cool and an exploit.
@Kinyajuu-related problems:
-When first generated and started, the RWG map consumes double de Memory until STEAM restart. That hurts. 10k maps can go up to 19+ gb of initial memory consumption, where they should only take 7+ of initial memory . Issue happening since a19. Maybe sooner.
-Dirt paths (both small and wide dirt paths) have jagged borders on any graphical settings. They want smoothin'.
-Dirt paths (both small and wide dirt paths) have jagged borders on any graphical settings. They want smoothin'.
What I absolutely love:
Everything else .
Beelzebubs Ghost
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I was bordering forest AND snow biome and have exactly the opposite experience.
Sparse ammo and zero guns. What little .762 I found I used in a pipe rifle that I could eventually craft, so I think it may be RNJesus forcing me to repent for my sins
meilodasreh
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Right, but those standard settings really seem OP to me.
My best finds in second game session (evening of day 1 and first half of day 2):
loot stage 5 (can be checked via the player/character statistics screen, I guess that's the lowest stage?)
-blue pipe baton (needs one power attack and one regular hit to kill every normal Z)
-rad remover mod
-machete schematics
-drone med aid mod
-rotating blade trap schematics
I'm rather sure it's not intended that one can find this stuff so early.
Or am I just incredibly lucky this time?
beerfly
Colony Rounder
Well, about 10 hours ingame.
Nomad (Strenght primarily) build on warrior difficulty. Loot abundance and xp lowered by 1 level, each.
I was scared, lost, hungry, helpless, infected, dehydrated many times, but died only once.
Had these cold chills when this feral wolf met me right after sunrise (day 4 or 5), in a close urban area. I didn`t know could be anything else, but a box of trash. A bit of a fight, some 3rd tier pipe weapons helped after a couple of quests also.
This IS а great one, Pimps.
The fear of being out there is back in a new better way.
Nomad (Strenght primarily) build on warrior difficulty. Loot abundance and xp lowered by 1 level, each.
I was scared, lost, hungry, helpless, infected, dehydrated many times, but died only once.
Had these cold chills when this feral wolf met me right after sunrise (day 4 or 5), in a close urban area. I didn`t know could be anything else, but a box of trash. A bit of a fight, some 3rd tier pipe weapons helped after a couple of quests also.
This IS а great one, Pimps.
The fear of being out there is back in a new better way.
Burrfly
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I'm playing on 100% loot (just the default) | Day 1 | In a city in the plains | Found 2 guns and 60+ ammo in a single POI | The POI seemed like a supermarket and had a basement which was easy to access
Falcon197
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This.
Everything new with A20 addresses a lot of the balancing issues and gameplay loopholes in prior alphas. Kiting zombies was 101 materials, along with not really worrying about food or infection - but my playthrough yesterday actually felt like a hardcore survival experience. I got infected within the first hour and had to go stump farming for honey. Also wound up only partially clearing a couple of the new POIs due to fear of getting trapped and mobbed in tighter spaces, which is something I've never really encountered before in this game. Scarcity of food now feels appropriate for a post-apocalyptic region. Going out at night also feels dangerous again in a way I've not experienced since A11 / A12.
Only issues aside from the occasional frame stutter are some minor things I'm finding with RWG or texture inconsistencies across some of the new shapes. Being the data guy I am, I'll keep exploring and experiment a bit before sharing. Otherwise, really stellar job on the update, FPs!
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meilodasreh
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that should definitely become a perk or a book. Being able to pick up other players and carry them around at least over short distances, maybe even throw/push them away
madmole
Fun Pimps Staff
If I'm not mistaken ammo thins out as game stage progresses to simulate things being more picked over.My first-look review, just like other people do now
I playtested it for a short amount of time and the towns and RWG is, as everyone is saying here, amazing. It feels so much more real and scarier and more epic.
However, I do feel that I have gotten too much loot in this very first stage in the game. I already got more than 60 ammo rounds after looting just one kinda basic POI, and even found 2 guns (while I wasn't even in a boosted biome, I was in just the plains). I personally like it more if I have TOO LITTLE ammo VS too much ammo. This way we have to strategically think about wether we have to use our scarce ammo or not, which makes it a lot cooler IMO. In alpha 19 my friends and I came across our first gun at around day 15 or something (which felt very epic), and now I already got 2 guns before the night in the first day, which feels OP and not special anymore because I already have a lot in a very short amount of time.
The amount of ammo I got and schematics I already learned also feels too much. I hope this will get fixed by stable, because this is my single ONLY very bad feeling. The rest is AMAZING, but even those amazing things will quickly feel not special anymore if you already have multiple guns by day 1. I remember playing at day 120+ in alpha 17 and still finding new cool loot, while now I think I would have everything by day 30.
I hope this will be read by the fun pimps and balanced by stable, because I love this game and also see that multiple people think the same as me. Trader ammo rewards are halved but personally still feel a little too much.
Long story short:
In my opinion, especially ammo and guns found in loot early-game need to be lowered. For the rest it's amazing.
Blake_
Captain Obvious
And it's not as plentiful in early days either if you are not actively looting and questing. I find it ok. It burns hella fast when those city "dead ends" come into play, lol.
crazywildfire
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Idk about all that but being able to push your buddy because he just happens to be standing in front of you into a zombie/horde would be some funny trolling moments lol
hiemfire
New member
@madmole Instead of the implementation of farming we saw over streamer weekend could you guys possibly change it so that the percentage chance of getting the seed on harvest is lower but the number of fruit used to craft a seed is reduced to 4? It'd still be tuneable for the rate at which you'd like the players to build up their stocks, but would end up leaving someone who's invested in Living off the Land 1 at least a seed in the farm plot for another go instead of 4 fruit, an empty planter and having to decide between crossing their fingers that they find another plant or just cooking up what they have and not bothering.
crazywildfire
New member
Favorite moment of A20 so far is watching someone tell someone new well kinda new to the game that if they hit the machine it will give them free drinks. Needless to say they didn't have much health and died from electricity lmak
Roland
Moderator
This almost always means you have A19 data interfering with your A20 game. Use the clean tool to remove all previous maps and saves.
Aldranon
New member
I did suggest that before I played. The game would be too easy if farming was reset back to A19.
I don't think any changes should be made. Farming is just an emergency kinda thing now, whereas hunting is the thing. I hunt chickens as you can see them easier riding down roads.
I got a system and the best weapon, for me, hunting chickens. I don't see rabbits much on the road, IDK why.
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Morloc
Arch Necromancer
Where's that located? (Asking for a n00b friend who doesn't pay attention...)
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