PC Alpha 19 Dev Diary
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madmole
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I'm playing agility with no problems. You have to use your strengths and avoid your weaknesses though.actually it appears to be about everyone else's game, as long as it works on default 100-150% loot that's all that seems to matter, and as long as it works for strength class their is nothing wrong with it. That's what I have gathered.
jorbascrumps
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Adam the Waster
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i mean thats the only thing that "hard" about the snow biome! early game it can be hard but once you get a good gun, melee weapon, Bow and good cloths! it is easy!
who knows what they will do to make it harder!
Frostbite, Harsh snowstorms, Getting you/you're car stuck in snow, More animal spawns like zombie dogs, wolfs, dire wolfs, Bears, Vultures, ETC!
That why i can't wait to see what they will do with the other biomes! like Sandstorms that will tear the skin from you're body!
but i hope they can also add something for the pine forest so noobs will have something to worry about! like Small Snow storms, Dust storms, Heat waves, Cold fronts, and some radiation in some areas like water!
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I like the new look for the car lot, also I've never gone out of my way to destroy a lootable object (cars excluded and then only if they were in the road, unless we were really hurting for an engine 
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But I must say I'm going to have to destroy every dumpster that has the flies at it, that buzzing gets on my nerves, at least the corpse piles don't make much noise when you destroy them, but for the dumpster, I have to wait until I've cleared the POI.
)But I must say I'm going to have to destroy every dumpster that has the flies at it, that buzzing gets on my nerves, at least the corpse piles don't make much noise when you destroy them, but for the dumpster, I have to wait until I've cleared the POI.
This is why it is problematic to conflate issues for normal play with issues for insane. You complained before that "as long as it works for strength class their is nothing wrong with it". If we assume you meant that generally it simply isn't true, not even in A19. In default difficulty anyone can shoot a blunderbuss and not be overwhelmed
If you meant it only for insane: You say a STR build would work here. But a STR player would attract zombies just as well as an AGI player when shooting a blunderbuss and in early game each shot of the blunderbuss would just have about 10 or 20% more damage per shot. Actually it sounds more like the STR player should use bow and stealth on insane in early game to get through alive.
STyK_
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Yet if you watch the streams like I do, other permadeath players playing the same diff/speed (they just stack blunderbuss) you'd know this isn't true. There is one that doesn't but he still some what cheeses it to survive when his back is against the wall. A cheeky exploit you guys will never bother to fix.
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I apologize if I hurt your feelings.
You just don't want to admit that you are wrong and the game is balanced perfectly fine for the game options you have selected. Sorry, the answer is still going to be no, they are not going to balance the game around you. The world does not revolve around you.
If you want a game to revolve around you, go out there and design one ... then let everyone here know so we can come play it and then post on your forums that you haven't designed it correctly for whatever stupid playing decisions we decide to make. And then say you don't know what you're doing and don't want to be responsive to your players.
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Phoenixshade35
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one hit makes more sense to me, like the double bed, is a simple wrench and done haha.
Oh do you think we might get a sledge turret we can wire to the grid instead of just the robotic one? if not thats cool i just think it would be a neat thing to mess around with more than 2.
last question (im a pest like the vulture huh) are we going to be able to wire more generators to the power grids or have bigger generators in the future we can repair? I would love to be able to run a single circuit and power my whole base while defending the generators from zombies homing in on the heat they produce
madmole
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It is very subjective when you should start taking on POIs. If I was wired up to an electric chair that went off if I died in a video game I wouldn't be questing or entering POIs super early until I had the best armor and weapons I could craft safely. You can't play the same strategy on insane as you would on adventurer, the amount of preparation and thinking should change dramatically IMO. I'd most likely build a sky base I knew the pathing couldn't reach, or make 10 meter thick steel walls in every direction, with triple lined steel tunnels to the next 10 meter thick bunker with 10 air locks. It sounds extreme, but if you really want to live you would take extreme measures and change your play style.
Lemmers
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There are two ways people can bring up issues. One way is listing them in a concise and polite manner, and the other is wrapping those issues in a cloud of toxicity towards the devs and anyone else who doesn't play on hardcore settings.
One of these is actually helpful and gets taken into consideration. The other gets you ignored by devs and mocked relentlessly by the community.
One of these is actually helpful and gets taken into consideration. The other gets you ignored by devs and mocked relentlessly by the community.
Phoenixshade35
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When it comes to day 1 poi looting i choose the super small pois, garages, construction sites like the garage construction poi, garages in general and some trailers, simple, easy, won't necessarily meet too tough of opposition, all depends on gameplay style, ive never played on the hardest setting, one day maybe and i shall see how badly i get pwned lol
I'm just throwing your claim back at you. Either you can use the blunderbuss too or the blunderbuss is suicide by noise. If you choose not to use the blunderbuss (or any other pipe weapons in A20) even if it makes a good "oh-@%$*#!" weapon then you either need a strategy that is just as good or announce defeat.
STyK_
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This is considered. I need gear to survive though and I'm not going to get that just finding free loot on 25%. Can't take on the horde with only a bow and arrow and not all quest rewards are equal to the task you have to take on. You could go to on to tier 3 quests without getting a weapon reward it seems. I even take over a medium poi for the standing concrete and wall which actually has a zombie dog sometimes but its not a tier 1 poi. Honestly I got up to doing tier 3's last time before I starting to take too much of a beating being under geared even though I was doing quests for rewards they were not what I needed and stopped at the beginning of tier 4's to focus on base building cause of that day 21 horde I'd mentioned. Once the base was fine I had more lvls my game stage is higher loot was better I could go out again, I mean look at where it ended and where the base was at. I know how to change my strat. This about zombie dogs in tier 1 poi's, the land mine in a tier 1 poi equivalent. Being expected to take them on with primitive weapons.
Edit: Other classes primitive weapons I mite add.
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madmole
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Right, I tend to go to the really small open or half destroyed POIs you can clearly see there isn't any danger lurking. I usually do dig quests because I need food and you are in the open so you can outrun anything if you need to.
I think the main point for Styx is he shouldn't expect to play the same way on nightmare as you would on adventurer. The whole point of the harder difficulty settings is to challenge your mind not just your reflexes, so you should have to change your tactics and risk management, and expectations.
Well you have to consider we don't have T0 pistol for the agility guy, so the blunderbuss/shotgun guy is at a clear advantage.
Although you don't HAVE to take on a horde with guns. You can craft spikes for miles in every direction, and just sit inside with a repair hammer fixing the cracks. Noone said you need 500 kills by day 7 or you are a loser. The goal is to survive, not be x level or have y possessions before z day.
Phoenixshade35
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Speaking of the dig quests, you guys need to change the chests to be destroyed upon looting just like the treasure maps, some people of facebook have stated they mark the chests after digging them up and they refill on the loot respawn day, just a small exploit but i wanted to point it out
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Phoenixshade35
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amazing, i like the idea of a flintlock pipe pistol, id be using it probably way later than i should cause those guns i enjoy
madmole
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I can't stand loot respawn, I'd rather just kill that. It should never respawn unless the whole POI is reset via quest IMO. We've talked about resetting unvisited chunks as a server option, so any space without a bed roll or land claim will go back to vanilla chunks after you haven't been there for a while instead of reloading it with loot.
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