PC Alpha 18 Dev Diary!!
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madmole
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Again this is before my post about complexity and rewards, usability etc. The complaints are from nostalgia, not experience. Farming is not complicated, so why make it tedious? The reward is a single crop without perks, and a boatload of work, tools, to get started in previous versions of the game. The complexity of the design needs to match the reward. Its harder to plant a single crop in pre 18 than it is to crack a vault and get a nice payload of weapons.
That said the game is too difficult where it should be easy, and too easy where it needs to be harder. So those complaining can look forward to harder safes to crack and more complex recipes for higher quality items.
The complexity needs to match the reward, and no matter what the design is the usability needs to be top notch, hoeing the dirt and planting on rough terrain was never very usable.
For me this Game needs 2 main Gamemodes.
The first one : more arcade : shotter /perks /tower defense /craft awesome gear / bosses
Focus in building and power Up the character. You are the King of the world
The second:more survival : less hud info / very scare food, bullets,and gas / perks points per Days survived / less crafting capabilities. /Best loot in worst places
Focus in exploration/nomad life and resourse management.the world is a nasty place.
Maybe down the road.
The first one : more arcade : shotter /perks /tower defense /craft awesome gear / bosses
Focus in building and power Up the character. You are the King of the world
The second:more survival : less hud info / very scare food, bullets,and gas / perks points per Days survived / less crafting capabilities. /Best loot in worst places
Focus in exploration/nomad life and resourse management.the world is a nasty place.
Maybe down the road.
ozzysfang
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hey your hand is on the stick so reap the whirlwind murphy, reap it. anywho cheers. I think I've been a positive ambassador of this game. I got my $ worth so I guess I don't have any right to complain. To be described as in a group of "but hurt" or not "stable" is pretty shocking. just a heads up...dude
MechanicalLens
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Ohh, very interesting! So I'm assuming you craft one box at a time and as you place them together they merge together seamlessly? Or do you use the nitrate, rotten flesh, etc. to craft a box as big as you want? I'm assuming it's the former.
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4sheetzngeegles
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Madmole
For the runaway if hurt, I used the torch, with a burn chance
buff for the animals. If they survived they would charge back
but i was ready to fight.
So crop wise, after playing, would you like to show the darker
side of the apocalypse. Sort of an artificed advanced timeline,
Or is it an optimization compromise, for the grow cycle of all
the plants everywhere in the biome. So this will kind of simple
control for excess processing calc.
I kind of understand, some of the responses. You created a game
that started as a single simple concept. In one of my first posts
I stated the potential that i saw. You didn't mean to but you
created a Multigenre game, while many others focused on a single
demographic, 7DTD opened the door to crafting, farming,
construction/destruction, survival, fps, 3rd person shooter, RTS,
RTT, and Tower defense, this is not all of them.
For farming When I worked at a circuit mftr for Motorola chips,
there were people that would risk getting fired, hijack the company
internet just so they could update their their farm plot so it would
not die. To them it was a huge deal, and they would cry and or rage
which was unsettling as ^%$* being in a closed, cleanroom environment.
I only post this to show how strong a draw many of the aspects of this
game includes.
So when you relect, and or retroflect, on some of the responses, Just
remember what Genie said in Aladdin you have to put "all that colossal
power in an itty bitty living space". You all have done a damn good job
so far.
The game is basically a playable MRI processor.
This is what i wrote 2 years ago, and it has only grown.
https://7daystodie.com/forums/showthread.php?66206-Multigenre-Concession
For the runaway if hurt, I used the torch, with a burn chance
buff for the animals. If they survived they would charge back
but i was ready to fight.
So crop wise, after playing, would you like to show the darker
side of the apocalypse. Sort of an artificed advanced timeline,
Or is it an optimization compromise, for the grow cycle of all
the plants everywhere in the biome. So this will kind of simple
control for excess processing calc.
I kind of understand, some of the responses. You created a game
that started as a single simple concept. In one of my first posts
I stated the potential that i saw. You didn't mean to but you
created a Multigenre game, while many others focused on a single
demographic, 7DTD opened the door to crafting, farming,
construction/destruction, survival, fps, 3rd person shooter, RTS,
RTT, and Tower defense, this is not all of them.
For farming When I worked at a circuit mftr for Motorola chips,
there were people that would risk getting fired, hijack the company
internet just so they could update their their farm plot so it would
not die. To them it was a huge deal, and they would cry and or rage
which was unsettling as ^%$* being in a closed, cleanroom environment.
I only post this to show how strong a draw many of the aspects of this
game includes.
So when you relect, and or retroflect, on some of the responses, Just
remember what Genie said in Aladdin you have to put "all that colossal
power in an itty bitty living space". You all have done a damn good job
so far.
The game is basically a playable MRI processor.
This is what i wrote 2 years ago, and it has only grown.
https://7daystodie.com/forums/showthread.php?66206-Multigenre-Concession
madmole
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Thank you. I always reserve judgement until I try something. Even for pos like Fallout 76, they still got my money but I am hopeful that they will polish it to something I want to play for at least 200 hours if not more.
I mean ok so to me if someone changes a 1% feature I'm not going to ♥♥♥♥ bricks about it. Farming is at best .01% of your time spent in the game, and for certain the usability is way better. (the actual planting and harvesting is very nice now)
wolfbain5
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that is because your bleed debuff <if the same from a17.4> is on crack. every bleeder is a hit to the carotid. instead you should vary the amount of time they bleed, not every wound needs to be a gusher, thats as bad as your example of every room always having 10 zeds.
ZombieHorde
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Pfffff....kids problems. Now I'm working on time travel. See you last week!
Roland
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He wasn’t referring to everyone who disagrees with the change. He was specifically talking about the few who were getting emotionally charged and spelling the game’s doom before even trying it. From your post history I know you’ll at least try it before making final judgement.
Madmole’s just defending his “metal sculpture” so to speak. You can forgive a man for that, eh...?
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