Console [07/11] - Message from the Team - Progress update

It isn't up to them. It would be up to Sony and Microsoft. Considering they are mods for a alpha game and not a finished game is most likely not going to get approved. Then on top of that the mods not sure about every one of them but most of them at least run with higher specs then the requirements for the vanilla version so they would have to optimize the mods also and don't think they would do that if it is even possible to get them to where they can run on console.
It would be cool though I would say.
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Console will never have mods. Period. Mods allow you to change the coding and behavior of games. Consoles do not allow this, the games themeselves, have to be submitted and put through testing from both microsoft and sony, before tehy are released. This also includes updates.

console doesn't allow software that will potentially brick / cause reset of the system and its software. It's part of buying a 300 dollar stripped down pc.

If you're gonna say "but bethesda has mods!" they dont - this isn't mods, it's dlc. Its created with rules and limits, through a dev kit, approved by bethesda, and sony and microsft. That's not modding, that's using the word to get console fans to pay for dlc they didn't have to make.

 
Console will never have mods. Period. Mods allow you to change the coding and behavior of games. Consoles do not allow this, the games themeselves, have to be submitted and put through testing from both microsoft and sony, before tehy are released. This also includes updates.
console doesn't allow software that will potentially brick / cause reset of the system and its software. It's part of buying a 300 dollar stripped down pc.

If you're gonna say "but bethesda has mods!" they dont - this isn't mods, it's dlc. Its created with rules and limits, through a dev kit, approved by bethesda, and sony and microsft. That's not modding, that's using the word to get console fans to pay for dlc they didn't have to make.
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Didn't I say it was up to Sony and Microsoft that it was most likely not going to get approved? Yeah think I did thanks for the extra details though.

 
Not sure why you keep saying him and others like myself that try and help that we don't care about console we need to go back to PC. I know we both have console and I know he plays on console so as a mod in the forums he tries and help people the best way he can. I know both of us love console just as much as anyone else. Can't speak for him but I probably play console more then I do on the PC.
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Clearly you and Sylven have a very different definition of the word "help" than most people.

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If i had to guess. Update 14 will be released in August
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What year? Lol!

 
Not quite. The PC version is an Alpha build that is still having core features developed. The upcoming release of a17 for the PC isn't just a usual update with a few features either. Almost the entire code has been re-done from the ground up. Not just because of upgrading to Unity 2017/18, but also because entire systems like buffs and zombie AI have been re-written from scratch.
The console version on the other hand, was taken as a finished product on Alpha build a14.7. It was pretty stable, but still had a few bugs. They ported that to the console, and have been getting updates from The Fun Pimps as items are deemed stable/complete enough to be ported over. If a system is unfinished (like electricity has been), it will not likely be ported over to the console. (Which is why I'm always amazed that they put the minibike in the console.)

The console version is published by TellTaleGames, and is being developed by Iron Galaxy. This is completely separate and independent of the PC Alpha development. So much so, that you can almost consider them two wholly separate games.

Now the Console version is being updated to the newer version of Unity. I imagine you will see things like painting, the crossbow, updated zombie types, and possibly electricity. I do not imagine that you will see things come to the console like the new cars, the new buff system, the new AI, or bandits and survivors.

Which isn't to say the console isn't getting those things. Hell, if TFP things they have it stable enough, and IG is able to make it work within the horrid system specs of the console, it just might be in the next update.

I wouldn't get your hopes on anything huge though. I imagine you'll get the rest of what was in a15, a good part of what is currently in a16, and a very good bit of optimization. Which may be able to lead to expanded worlds, and a better multiplayer experience. Hopefully they'll also have found a good way to work around the bugs caused by Microsoft's horrible file system.
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It seems pretty dishonest to claim that the console version is "technically" a finished product, when nowhere in the game description on the console version, that this broken port of an alpha game is a "finished" product.

7DTD is still in need of major bug fixes. If you're going to put a "finished product" price tag on the game, then you better be willing to keep supporting and developing the game until it's worth the $39.99 you've charged consumers.

TFP really either need to drop the "console is sold as a finished product" cop out or start issuing refunds.

 
This year xD
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Let’s hope but I think that’s optimistic. Now that they have a bootable version, which was a huge milestone for them I’m sure and good news which is why they shared it, things should start to progress quickly. That said, they probably have a lot of work in front of them. If I were to guess I’m thinking October to December time frame. Depends on how smooth things go. Even if it went further then that I’d be okay with it. Now that they have aligned the game engine and code base we get a new life on the console. Honestly though I’d take just a few new zombie types, the paint brush, the new traps, open up more of creative to the traders and fix the dead zone on the controllers.

 
Clearly you and Sylven have a very different definition of the word "help" than most people.
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It seems pretty dishonest to claim that the console version is "technically" a finished product, when nowhere in the game description on the console version, that this broken port of an alpha game is a "finished" product.
7DTD is still in need of major bug fixes. If you're going to put a "finished product" price tag on the game, then you better be willing to keep supporting and developing the game until it's worth the $39.99 you've charged consumers.

TFP really either need to drop the "console is sold as a finished product" cop out or start issuing refunds.
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You have been told several times and it is all over the forums about the things you complain about. You don't want to understand them and want to turn everything into a PCMR thing. It isn't our fault because you can't read or understand what has been told to you several times over and over again. So yeah you might not see it as help when you come bashing everyone that tells you something that you don't believe in.

So again for whatever reason I'm even taking the time to do this. But here do they have to put finished game on a box? Not sure how many games got it on a box that reads this game is a finished game. Every game that comes out today had issues with them so none of them from what you are saying are finished. This game is a finished game on console. Not saying it doesn't have issues or bugs but that isn't what they are referring to when they say finished. They say finished because it isn't in alpha like PC is and console has no guarantee that it will get anything else from PC after A14. So this is why they said finished. Not because of bugs or glitches. As said 99% of games that come out today has bugs and glitches.

They are still working on the game and have not charged you anything extra for all they have done. They have not left us in the dust or they have not shown they don't care.

Again TFP are not over the console version TT is the publisher of the console version they got IG to do the porting for them. All TFP do is pass the files over to the console team and let them handle the console as to what they can get into the game and what they can't. I don't know what deal they made 9r what all I can say is TT came to TFP when A14 was out and seen a finished game. So they seen something in A14 to see worth selling as a finished game. So they worked out whatever they worked out TFP gave them the rights to handle console. If it wasn't for that it wouldn't even be on console because TFP want to work and stay focus on the PC version not worry about something more. If you want a refund you have to go see who you bought the game from. Nobody here can give you your money back. More on all this plus more is here on the forums. Look around read some. If you are still not happy then I suggest you just let it be and move on to something else if it gets you that upset.

 
BORED BORED BORED BORED of the same old same old convo.

theres an update coming at some point, every update theres a massive whinge up moaning about content and lack off... im bored of the same shizzle.

just know theres an update coming and it probably wont have what you want in it.

 
I am insisting that the devs give consumers a game worth the $39.99 they were charged.
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I don't know many who paid that for the console version.

I bought both of my console versions for $19.99 when it first dropped. The hundreds of hours I've put into this game, more than makes up for what ive paid & I'm excited for the future upgrades.

 
You have been told several times and it is all over the forums about the things you complain about. You don't want to understand them and want to turn everything into a PCMR thing. It isn't our fault because you can't read or understand what has been told to you several times over and over again. So yeah you might not see it as help when you come bashing everyone that tells you something that you don't believe in.
So again for whatever reason I'm even taking the time to do this. But here do they have to put finished game on a box? Not sure how many games got it on a box that reads this game is a finished game. Every game that comes out today had issues with them so none of them from what you are saying are finished. This game is a finished game on console. Not saying it doesn't have issues or bugs but that isn't what they are referring to when they say finished. They say finished because it isn't in alpha like PC is and console has no guarantee that it will get anything else from PC after A14. So this is why they said finished. Not because of bugs or glitches. As said 99% of games that come out today has bugs and glitches.

They are still working on the game and have not charged you anything extra for all they have done. They have not left us in the dust or they have not shown they don't care.

Again TFP are not over the console version TT is the publisher of the console version they got IG to do the porting for them. All TFP do is pass the files over to the console team and let them handle the console as to what they can get into the game and what they can't. I don't know what deal they made 9r what all I can say is TT came to TFP when A14 was out and seen a finished game. So they seen something in A14 to see worth selling as a finished game. So they worked out whatever they worked out TFP gave them the rights to handle console. If it wasn't for that it wouldn't even be on console because TFP want to work and stay focus on the PC version not worry about something more. If you want a refund you have to go see who you bought the game from. Nobody here can give you your money back. More on all this plus more is here on the forums. Look around read some. If you are still not happy then I suggest you just let it be and move on to something else if it gets you that upset.
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How many games can you name that were ported to console while the PC version was in Alpha?

I can't think of any besides 7DtD because it's probably a poor business decision and arguably pretty unethical to do so.

You're just blindly defending TFP despite their unethical business decision.

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I don't know many who paid that for the console version. I bought both of my console versions for $19.99 when it first dropped. The hundreds of hours I've put into this game, more than makes up for what ive paid & I'm excited for the future upgrades.
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I did pay $39.99. I didn't get a $39.99 game. I got a bad port of a game that was in Alpha on PC.

 
How many games can you name that were ported to console while the PC version was in Alpha?
I can't think of any besides 7DtD because it's probably a poor business decision and arguably pretty unethical to do so.

You're just blindly defending TFP despite their unethical business decision.
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Well, pick pretty much anything by Capcom for starters. Ark was ported early.

For the most part, very little games go from PC to console. Because the hardware.

Here's some reading for you.

https://www.howtogeek.com/332244/why-some-games-suck-after-being-ported-from-console-to-pc/

https://www.cleverendeavourgames.com/blog/2017/2/1/what-goes-into-porting-to-consoles-for-non-developers

https://www.extremetech.com/gaming/210753-why-some-video-game-ports-are-spotless-while-others-are-train-wrecks

To add to your question, Early Access games in the way they are presented now is a relatively new thing. Previously, no one had access to a game while it was in the Alpha development stage outside of maybe a couple hundred people. They weren't even on the public radar until they were close to Beta development.

TellTale chose to approach TFP for porting a game still in development. IG created it for the console.

You are the one blindly accusing TFP for a product they didn't create. It will stop now.

Do your damn research, actually try to open your mind and see reality instead of your alternate version of it.

 
Well, pick pretty much anything by Capcom for starters. Ark was ported early.
For the most part, very little games go from PC to console. Because the hardware.

Here's some reading for you.

https://www.howtogeek.com/332244/why-some-games-suck-after-being-ported-from-console-to-pc/

https://www.cleverendeavourgames.com/blog/2017/2/1/what-goes-into-porting-to-consoles-for-non-developers

https://www.extremetech.com/gaming/210753-why-some-video-game-ports-are-spotless-while-others-are-train-wrecks

To add to your question, Early Access games in the way they are presented now is a relatively new thing. Previously, no one had access to a game while it was in the Alpha development stage outside of maybe a couple hundred people. They weren't even on the public radar until they were close to Beta development.

TellTale chose to approach TFP for porting a game still in development. IG created it for the console.

You are the one blindly accusing TFP for a product they didn't create. It will stop now.

Do your damn research, actually try to open your mind and see reality instead of your alternate version of it.
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You're seriously arguing TFP didn't make 7DtD? Or are you arguing that TT forced TFP to let them port the unfinished game?

Can the disingenuous garbage, dude. You are well aware that TT and TFP share culpability to poor, ethically dubious business decision to rush the console port even though the game was in pretty early alpha at the time the deal was struck.

Also, did you read any of the articles you posted? None of them have anything to do with the topic at hand--TT/TFP's unethical decision to port a buggy Alpha to console and market it as a finished product.

 
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You're seriously arguing TFP didn't make 7DtD? Or are you arguing that TT forced TFP to let them port the unfinished game?
Can the disingenuous garbage, dude. You are well aware that TT and TFP share culpability to poor, ethically dubious business decision to rush the console port even though the game was in pretty early alpha at the time the deal was struck.

Also, did you read any of the articles you posted? None of them have anything to do with the topic at hand--TT/TFP's unethical decision to port a buggy Alpha to console and market it as a finished product.
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Actually, they have everything to do with the topic you keep bringing up. You're just too self-centered on your own alternate reality to see it.

Go away. Sell your copy of the game to GameStop, and don't come back.

You really have no reason to post other than to make ♥♥♥♥ up.

 
Actually, they have everything to do with the topic you keep bringing up. You're just too self-centered on your own alternate reality to see it.Go away. Sell your copy of the game to GameStop, and don't come back.

You really have no reason to post other than to make ♥♥♥♥ up.
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GameStop buys digital copies now? That's news to me.

 
All fairness this thread has got bit to toxic

People need to learn to be patient for the update

Be happy with what you got

This game is like other games starts of bad then after updates and upgrades it gets better

This is a brilliant game just needs a bit of tlc

On another note anyone one from the uk be careful in this heat I just came out of hospital due to heat stroke and the doctor said that the heat can get up to 34 digress so drink loads of water and try stay in shade

 
What is it you don't understand?

TFP are not working on console period.

TT came to TFP because they seen what was in in A14 to be enough to be considered a finished game. TFP said they was still making the game and wasn't finished and didn't have time to do PC and console because they had already invested in the PC and people had already invested in them to finish the game and didn't want those people to feel they was being pushed aside. TT made whatever deal that we don't have info on but we do know they told them they didn't have to worry about console. That they just give them what they needed to port the game and would handle it. So TT hired IG to handle the ports. All TFP do is send them the files for IG to port that is it. They said that because console limitations that it wouldn't be a guarantee that they could port everything from PC to console but they would try to port what they could. So no TFP are not doing console.

Does the game have bugs in it well yes it does. Have they stopped working on it well no they have not. Has it been several months since they did a bug update well yes but considering they are doing a overhaul because of the unity engine update why should they spend time working on something that is being changed or reworked for it? It doesn't make sense to do that so they are putting focused on getting the update done so they work on the bugs that might come from it.

You have been here over a year with the same thing over and over again. Nobody here is going to give you your money back. So if you are that mad at the way TT or IG are handling it then I would just cut it up as a lost and move on to some other game.

You have yet in a year understood anything anyone has tried to tell you. You only want to believe what is in your head. When someone tries to explain you try turning what they said around to fit what you believe and what you believe only.

Any other questions that I left out? Something other then what had been said because we can't help you if you refuse to understand what is being told to you.

 
At this point he has to be trolling. I mean yes the whole situation sucks for us gamers with how poorly done the console port is being handled but nothing we can do to change it. Kilgore just play another game and forget this one or wait a year or 2 for them to possibly improve the game close to your standards.

 
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