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Plissken said:
Sounds good, doesn't work. How much veggies does each crop drop? 4-6 I guess (correct me if I'm mistaken).
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With 10 plots, you would get the following:

  • Player Planted Crops

    LoTL Level 0 - 20 crops
  • LoTL Level 1 - 40 crops
  • LoTL Level 2 - 40-45 crops
  • LoTL Level 3 - 60-65 crops

[*]Wild Crops

  • LoTL Level 0 - 10 crops
  • LoTL Level 1 - 20 crops
  • LoTL Level 2 - 20-25 crops
  • LoTL Level 3 - 30-35 crops

Not sure how you can say it doesn't work when you don't know how many crops you get back per perk level.  Even not perking into LoTL, you were off by 14-16 returns.  I got this sneaky feeling you never tried it or were not paying any attention to what you were doing.

Level 3 at LoTL guarantees you will always have extra crops even if you convert to 10 seeds.

Levels 1-2, statistically you are going to come out ahead.  Even if you get a poor RNG roll and don't get a single seed, you will find more in loot and at the traders to make up for it.  However, in my last playthrough, I didn't have any issues sustaining farming after I put one point investment in LoTL (SP).  However, if you are part of a group and happen to be the farmer, then you should max out LoTL to maximize yields.

 
BFT2020 said:
You get 50% chance of a seed, regardless of your LoTL perk level.
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Thanks.  I hadn't read the description in a long time and forgot that.  I misremembered and thought the seed chance increased.  :)

meganoth said:
At least for A20 early crops can be very useful. Since you find recipes randomly there is always a chance for you being able to cook advanced recipes. And if you spec into STRENGTH and put points into Master Chef early then you also have advanced recipes relatively early in your game. Note I am just speaking generally. The game offers different solutions for some problems and food is no exception. You can get food from multiple sources and if other sources are sufficient then obviously there is no need for points into LotL. And usually veteran players have much less problems with food than novice players in early game.
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Yeah, I think that last line is the crux... once you know the game well, food is so easy to get that you just have no need for farming early unless you want it.  I normally don't invest much into strength until mid game as I prefer other perks over what's there even though I do like having the mining perks.  I'll often put a point into 69er but that's often the only strength point I'll spend until later in the game.  If I'm really struggling for food because RNG is being fickle, then I'll put one point into Master Chef to make bacon and eggs but that's not common, especially since finding eggs is a pain and I don't enjoy looking for them.  I also don't adjust my play in hopes of getting a good recipe or schematic drop.  If I get something, then I might consider doing things differently - the same for good weapon or tool drops.  But I won't plan around the hope of a good drop and so my perks go where I know I'll have the most use for them early on and only later will I start putting perks into other things.

In the early game, I am traveling far less and so I can survive on cans and cooked meat even though it is a pain to eat so often.  It's not until later when I start traveling around the map that I really need the better food.  However, even in the early game, improved weapon skills are important.  I start with a spear and add in pistols or 44s as I get them, skipping pipe weapons entirely as I hate them.  And, as I said, I hate broken legs since they last forever and so parkour is one of the first things I'll max out.  I am a looter and like getting good loot, so I'll also max out lucky looter as one of the first perks to max out as well.  Those, combined with improving spears perks pretty much is my early game.  There just isn't room for cooking or farming.  For me at least.

 
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Plissken said:
Sounds good, doesn't work. How much veggies does each crop drop? 4-6 I guess (correct me if I'm mistaken). In case of corn or potatoes, it might work, but not very rewarding, as after crafting the right amount of seeds, you have almost nothing to cook. And if you try to plant super corn, which is pretty rare itself, you have to choose between replanting and crafting moonshine/sauce/learning elixir most of the time. A couple of updates/years ago, farming was more rewarding in this matter.
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Thanks for the reply.  BFT2000 already answered this pretty well.  But at 1 point in lotl you will always get a positive return at 10 plots.  With the plants you have left over, you will be able to cook enough food, along with scavenging to keep yourself fed.   The more points you put into it the better your return obviously, but at 1 point in it you are good..

 
keisuke.jp said:
Dear moderators,

I am Japanese, and I am really looking forward to being able to play A21. Will it be possible to play it by June?
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No date has been given.  If you read the last page or two, you'll see they're working on fixing certain game stopping bugs first but that those seem to be mostly done if no more crop up.  So chances are it'll be within a couple of weeks.  On the other hand, if more bugs appear that have to be fixed first, it could be later.  All we can do is wait.  When they give an exact date, I'm sure the first post in this thread will be updated to show it.

 
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-Arch Necromancer Morloc 💀

 
Aldranon said:
Lets not have any of those bugs, lets have the kind that faatal uses a fly swatter on.

So if its the next weekend then around monday we should know?
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I'm pretty sure for A20 it was the Wednesday before it was made public. I'd hope at least they would let streamers know today or Monday though

 
Doomofman said:
I'm pretty sure for A20 it was the Wednesday before it was made public. I'd hope at least they would let streamers know today or Monday though
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Roland said that the streamers will get new informations as soon as they are available. Therefore, I assume that they know a little earlier than us when the streamer weekend is.

 
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Crater Creator said:
Streamer Weekend FAQ

Q: When is Alpha 21 coming out, and when will the Streamer Weekend participants get access to it?

A: When it's ready. Don't claim specific dates when hyping the event to your viewers. Some streamers did this in the past, and it makes everyone look bad. Monitor the Discord server for updates. We hope to provide the date the Monday or Tuesday before the event, but sometimes things happen. The public release of Alpha 21 experimental will happen on a Monday. The Streamer Weekend participants will get it the Friday/Saturday before that, so they have roughly the full weekend for streaming (more or less, depending on timezone).
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About as definite as any of their other communications about the timing of things. Maybe the Monday or the Tuesday but also possibly not haha 

 
keisuke.jp said:
Dear moderators,

I am Japanese, and I am really looking forward to being able to play A21. Will it be possible to play it by June?
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By June or within June? If by June, from what I recall of how the time zones are set up, you asked your question on June 2nd Japan time. So no, not by June. I get it, the flow of days and weeks gets blurry sometimes.

Example: Yesterday, which was Thursday local, I was intermittently thinking today, Friday local, was both Thursday and Friday depending on what conversation I was in or what I was planning. 😖

Here's hoping for a release of A21 within June though.  :)

 
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