Its done when its done.Any news on the update front? Beginning to miss the game.
The game is but a shadow of its future self.Any news on the update front? Beginning to miss the game.
First I wanted to nod knowingly when I read your post. BUT then I thought: On the other hand maybe you inside TFP have the problem of looking at your players through a distorting lens called the vocal minority and getting the wrong impression from it.@Mikee
By now you should know what happens when any work in progress feature is shown.
That's why. LOL
While I don't know any of these guys personally, I feel I can speak with confidence that they are not cowed by vocal idiots. It is, however, most likely about managing expectations and being able to be confident about each release. When they release a half-made idea even with the best of intentions it tends to not get the best reception. I think they'd rather give people a nearly complete feature and polish it from there.I have witnessed the bickering when 16.0... came out, the childish impatience and the insufficient manners of some. I can understand there is no desire to pamper that crowd. The interesting question is, is that a sizable portion of the forum?
In no way it is - but everyone gets affected by the bickering and the arguing that ensues when some "jump in to defend TFP". (which is not necessary =)is that a sizable portion of the forum?
It's the loudest and that's the problem I feel. Outside the forum for those that even know the Behemoth was dropped most reactions were "Thank God it didn't fit"First I wanted to nod knowingly when I read your post. BUT then I thought: On the other hand maybe you inside TFP have the problem of looking at your players through a distorting lens called the vocal minority and getting the wrong impression from it.
Naturally when you announce a feature and later drop it there is a small percentage of players who can't handle it and put up frequent posts about "YOU MURDERED MY BEHEMOTH", "In that video a jeep was promised, jeep-#gate!!!" or "Smell isn't working. IDIOTS, I could do this in 2 minutes AND I don't even know how to program". And this minority of professional ♥♥♥♥stormers and infantile know-it-alls has eroded your will to give out information to the rest of the forum users, the silent majority.
I have witnessed the bickering when 16.0... came out, the childish impatience and the insufficient manners of some. I can understand there is no desire to pamper that crowd. The interesting question is, is that a sizable portion of the forum?
It's like saying it's no problem when only one guy poops in the pool at every party.![]()
It's worth pointing out that in practice there's no such thing as giving out information 'to the forum'. This being the internet, anything posted virtually anywhere will also get disseminated to Twitter, Tumblr, YouTube, reddit, Steam forums, and no doubt other channels. So in addition to the vocal minority phenomenon you're describing, the overall feedback from forum users may also be skewed relative to the total community response.First I wanted to nod knowingly when I read your post. BUT then I thought: On the other hand maybe you inside TFP have the problem of looking at your players through a distorting lens called the vocal minority and getting the wrong impression from it.
Naturally when you announce a feature and later drop it there is a small percentage of players who can't handle it and put up frequent posts about "YOU MURDERED MY BEHEMOTH", "In that video a jeep was promised, jeep-#gate!!!" or "Smell isn't working. IDIOTS, I could do this in 2 minutes AND I don't even know how to program". And this minority of professional ♥♥♥♥stormers and infantile know-it-alls has eroded your will to give out information to the rest of the forum users, the silent majority.
I have witnessed the bickering when 16.0... came out, the childish impatience and the insufficient manners of some. I can understand there is no desire to pamper that crowd. The interesting question is, is that a sizable portion of the forum?
Thanks, I guess. Once my post count matches my hours played I might have to quit something.Oh, and happy 3000th post, Maharin.![]()
Here is a Checklist that is as accurate as can be given the current information. Print it out and check stuff off as it happens but don't come crying to me if one or more of these things gets cancelled or pushed back to after the Gold release.im still missing the public plans. the checklists. we can only see things when they update the main post. :/to me its like they dont have that much confidence to show us the plans, becouse they might fail.
even if i like the game, this half year+ update process is a bit too much![]()
tryhards and smarttoads keep saying its done when its done. defending the devs, showing their work more vulnerable.
overall, im sad... :/
still have the hype for the dungeons and quests
Is that the beta release numbers on the left?Here is a Checklist that is as accurate as can be given the current information. Print it out and check stuff off as it happens but don't come crying to me if one or more of these things gets cancelled or pushed back to after the Gold release.
1) Quest System
2) Stealth System
3) Zombie AI and breadcrumb System
4) Weapons and Mod Attachments System
5) Skills/Perks/Attribute System
6) NPCs and Bandits
7) Factions and Reputation
8) Water Overhaul
9) Shape Selector and Blueprints
10) World and Prefab Editing Tools
11) Workshop Support
12) Horde Mode
13) PvP Mode
14) Duke of Navezgane and Casino
15) Beta
16) Gold Release