PC When will A17 Experimental be released 4?

[Gmad03]

I don't get it.
Why are people upset Streamers get the game first?

There's more to making a game than creating code.

Half of what a developer does is Marketing. There's.... not really a paycheck in it unless you inform the public.

Streamers help to promote the game.

I would think folks would be excited that 7DTD has steady streamers who increase awareness of this great game.

Meh... what do I know.

I think people dislike it bc of the 17 month dev cycle I doubt many would complain if it was only 4 months. We’ve all waited a long time and just want to play it when it’s ready But I agree the marketing is definitely a good thing just the 17 month wait is what sucks.

 

[Roland]

I think people dislike it bc of the 17 month dev cycle I doubt many would complain if it was only 4 months. We’ve all waited a long time and just want to play it when it’s ready But I agree the marketing is definitely a good thing just the 17 month wait is what sucks.

4 months must be the magic number because when it was just 8 months they still complained and much more than this time. I tend to think that those who don't like it are going to complain no matter how fast the dev cycle is.

 

[Roland]

I see you are new around here
I remember in A13? A14? That they gave 5 consecutive release dates, and missed them all.

Oh, and Joel promised to eat his beard regarding something in A16, but then missed the deadline. Sounds familiar?

Most consistent devs on the planet!

 

[mr.devolver]

What state it is in polish wise has zero bearing on the reason for releasing it to the streamers......

Streamers may get it first, that was a thing in at least one of the last Alphas and let's just say that while the main reason is marketing, it's not the only reason... and one of the reasons, at least the last time was to find some bugs in real gameplay and catch them on the video. This time however, we've heard time and time again how they are getting close, how they are fixing bugs like crazy, polishing it to make it look like a whole new game and other things like that. We've heard it all over the last year. Should they keep us waiting for this long, saying it's only for the better, they better release a highly polished version of the game and if they do, they may as well skip the streaming event and release it for everyone right away. Streamers will do their magic anyway, it's not like it would somehow lose it's magic just because everyone could play it themselves.

I think people dislike it bc of the 17 month dev cycle I doubt many would complain if it was only 4 months. We’ve all waited a long time and just want to play it when it’s ready But I agree the marketing is definitely a good thing just the 17 month wait is what sucks.

Pretty much this...

Marketing is nice and all, but people have been waiting for the actual product, the updated one they have been hearing about for over a year, this is the point where people started leaving this game and community for indefinite time, because they got tired of waiting. We all are customers, so be honest and tell me how much longer can marketing alone do the trick for your patience?

You know what? I know some of you will dislike this, but I will still say it. Even though TFP had nothing to do with the console version, I kinda started to understand how console players felt this whole time without updates and the only update they received was that their publisher Telltale was closed which means that while they never received their game update, the future of the console version is uncertain. I can only hope that the PC version will not suffer the same fate, but who's to guarantee it won't?

 

[Jedo]

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I love your..."logic." It's very...creative.

 

[DarlingCows]

If released here thanksgiving break I will be thankful. If after I will be merry if next year I will be looking a new games.

 

[OzHawkeye]

the future of the console version is uncertain. I can only hope that the PC version will not suffer the same fate, but who's to guarantee it won't?

You want a GUARANTEE that 7DaysToDie will be released as a fully complete and finished game?

There's a simple solution to that - don't buy Early Access.

There IS no guarantee that ANY game in Early Access, this or any other one, will be completed, as Steam VERY clearly sets out in its blurbs on the Early Access process. I've got a couple of Early Access games myself where the Devs have flat out, for one reason or another, walked away from the game. It sux, but it happens.

Now, how LIKELY is it that will happen here? Well, I think it's as close to zero as you're likely to see for an Early Access game. The Pimps have been committed from day one to finishing this game, and while the development pace may have been slower than some would have liked, the eventual end result has never, in my humble opinion, ever been REASONABLY in doubt.

 

[Roland]

doubts will melt away soon

(and then coalesce again pre A18)

 

[Jedo]

Now, how LIKELY is it that will happen here? Well, I think it's as close to zero as you're likely to see for an Early Access game. The Pimps have been committed from day one to finishing this game, and while the development pace may have been slower than some would have liked, the eventual end result has never, in my humble opinion, ever been REASONABLY in doubt.

You don't believe that it's likely TFP will abandon this game like all the other EA games get abandoned? Here, drink this Kool-Aid and put on this shiny, metal hat.

 

[Roland]

Its actually funny to think that as much as A17 is desired right now it will be detested in the months before A18. And as much as customers say that A17 is what is needed in order to fulfill their purchase, starting in about 6 months it will become the release of A18 that determines whether customers feel they got value for money paid and not A17. And finally, the criteria for a good review will no longer be the quality of A17 but whether A18 has been released or not....

 

[SnowDog1942]

Its actually funny to think that as much as A17 is desired right now it will be detested in the months before A18. And as much as customers say that A17 is what is needed in order to fulfill their purchase, starting in about 6 months it will become the release of A18 that determines whether customers feel they got value for money paid and not A17. And finally, the criteria for a good review will no longer be the quality of A17 but whether A18 has been released or not....

A18 confirmed?

 

[Riv]

Geeze Roland, you're sounding a bit jaded there, can hardly blame you, the minority can be very noisy.

Keep up the good work in good spirit.

 

[OzHawkeye]

You don't believe that it's likely TFP will abandon this game like all the other EA games get abandoned? Here, drink this Kool-Aid and put on this shiny, metal hat.

You do? Honestly? Really? You honestly really think 7Days is going to be abandoned?

I honestly, really, don't believe you.

 

[RestInPieces]

Geeze Roland, you're sounding a bit jaded there, can hardly blame you, the minority can be very noisy.Keep up the good work in good spirit.

Yeah, pessimism has gotten the better of you, cheer up. It's absolutely natural that this would be happening. The fact is that it is pretty long compared to the average game's update schedule, people aren't used to it. And something tells me that A18 will come much, like 1/3, sooner.

 

[Telosbudo]

Its actually funny to think that as much as A17 is desired right now it will be detested in the months before A18. And as much as customers say that A17 is what is needed in order to fulfill their purchase, starting in about 6 months it will become the release of A18 that determines whether customers feel they got value for money paid and not A17. And finally, the criteria for a good review will no longer be the quality of A17 but whether A18 has been released or not....

If A17 is as friendly to modders as it has been advertised by MM, then it may break the cycle

 

[Telosbudo]

And, sorry, but I'm not holding my breath if A18 is going to focus on AI human raiders. That tough to implement for AAA games, let alone TFP

 

[Royal Deluxe]

Roland i am angry.

I played so many games now

And except SCUM and Empyrion there is no good game i can play more than 100 Hours.

So please contact all these developer teams "Raft, The Forest, Mist survival, No mans sky, ...." and kick some asses

Only 2 Survival games left i can try as gape filler "Green hell and Miscreated"

And all is your fault TFP.

You raised the threshold soo high no game can keep up ^^

 

[Roland]

Geeze Roland, you're sounding a bit jaded there, can hardly blame you, the minority can be very noisy.Keep up the good work in good spirit.

Yeah, pessimism has gotten the better of you, cheer up. It's absolutely natural that this would be happening. The fact is that it is pretty long compared to the average game's update schedule, people aren't used to it. And something tells me that A18 will come much, like 1/3, sooner.

Naw...I’m still cheery.

But....been moderating for a few alphas now and it’s always the same. So not pessimistic...just a good memory and decent pattern recognition

I know it’s the vocal minority. The vast majority of owners has no clue about A17. They’ve probably moved on to new games and don’t feel any sort of anger at all. When they get the steam notification that the game has updated they’ll think “cool...have to give that one a try again” and then like the event horizon of a black hole A17 will pull them back in.

 

[Guppycur]

Its actually funny to think that as much as A17 is desired right now it will be detested in the months before A18. And as much as customers say that A17 is what is needed in order to fulfill their purchase, starting in about 6 months it will become the release of A18 that determines whether customers feel they got value for money paid and not A17. And finally, the criteria for a good review will no longer be the quality of A17 but whether A18 has been released or not....

Just wait til gold... The good pitchforks will be in play then...

 

[Roland]

Just wait til gold... The good pitchforks will be in play then...

Even I have one wrapped in a blanket under my bed...waiting.

/one-block ingress, ziplines, and leaning (I got you)