PC Un-craftable wooden bow parts...

[meganoth]

I havent been able to try it out yet, but almost every review I read about it says the new basic bow is useless. If it is not true, then it's fine.

I would guess even the wooden and compound bow can't compete with higher tier guns on raw damage output, just like in previous alphas. The bows shine only when used with stealth.

In previous alphas the normal bow was even somewhat overpowered (easy ammo+stealth+damage) so the majority of players used it the whole game through and guns as fallback.

Now the primitve bow is a band aid just like every other tier1 weapon. It probably will get somewhat better if you perk into bows, but I doubt anyone will be content to use ANY tier1 weapon in mid-game. The simple bow as the universal weapon used by level 90 players is history.

Wait... Lets think about that. If I want a T1 wooden bow, I have to find one to scrap into parts in order to craft back into a wooden bow. But... If I find one to scrap into parts, why would I scrap it into parts in order to then rebuild it into what I already had?

Am I wrong in thinking that you can buy or find weapon parts as well? If not then that should be happening in the game, at least the trader should have weapon parts quite often instead of complete weapons in my opinion.

Also you said in another post your trader is too far off. Well, basically you are the one who decides how far off your trader is. And if you think the game is too random then making your base near a trader (and finding more traders) is one of the best ways to reduce (not eliminate) randomness.

 

[Vapid Actions]

I noticed logging in today that "wooden bow parts" are gone, and there is now a combined "crossbow / bow parts". I may still have yet to find a wooden bow, but at least now I've been able to make a wooden bow, and would have in my previous playthrough as I had found no shortage of crossbows.

While we may not see eye to eye on this issue, I thank you for considering it, and making a change to alleviate this progression block.

 

[Khulkhuum]

Considering scrapping T1 wooden bow to make a wooden bow... There's no sense in scrapping a T1 to make a T1. You could scrap 2 or 3 T1 bows to make a new T2 for example, which would have higher damage.

Already found a T1 Wooden Bow in my playthrough, which is a bit better than the Primitive Bow. When i get the parts i'll definitely make higher tier of it, but for now (before 2nd HN) it's sufficient.

 

[jdm311]

I also fell victim to the purchase of the wooden bow perk without checking the recipe. It may help others to make a note on perks that allow crafting of T2 items that non-craftable parts will be needed. For example, archery perk allows crafting wooden bow (note: wooden bow parts necessary to build). In general, I feel the descriptions are very good and this would be a minor improvement.

 

[HungryZombie]

Umm t1 items cannot be crafted without lootable items and perks don't have hidden requirements so not sure what you are referring to.

What he is referring to, I think, is that when some people read a skill's description in a video game such as "Allows you to craft crappy level item X" some people might assume you pay for the perk and you can craft that crappy item x.

It's not expected you need uncraftable items to make the item the perk told you you can make for buying the perk.

How big if a deal it is or isn't I'll leave it to you to decide.

It comes down to random vs guaranteed. I am guaranteed I can craft a T1 Bow because the materials are harvestable. (Not lootable as you described).

Lootable means you only have a chance to find it while looting. I'm guaranteed wood if I harvest a tree.

Hope that helps you see the point.