PC Turrets Syndrome?

A lot of regulars on this forum need to shoot people down to feel better about themselves, and the irony of a thread full of people pearl clutching because one person implied that something might offend people, is clearly lost on them.
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Yet again the only way your position seems to have any rebuttal to our arguments is that we're just meanie heads.

 
Of course it's in poor taste. But TFP clearly doesn't have an issue with being crass or offensive. They've made a point of putting in vulgar, risque, or offensive things regularly and response has been, overwhelmingly "deal with it."
I wish they hadn't done all of that, but I'd already bought the game before they put all that in, so other than voice my disapproval (I disapprove), asking them to be better, and letting others who might consider the game know if they fail to do so, there's not much impact I can have towards the makers of a willfully offensive game.
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How? How is it in poor taste? Seriously why can no one tell me why the perk name is so degrading and horrible? Everyone is kicking around the idea that TFP is trying to make this horridly offensive game yet no one can explain why it's so bad? It makes me seriously question whether you actually care about people with the ailments that TFP are "making light of", because several have now commented expressing their complete lack of care about this issue. Most think it's funny, so if you are genuinely worried that TFP is upping depression rates I got news for ya.

I would be on your side of the argument if the perk description berated you for being subhuman or if TFP put racial slurs in their item descriptions. Then we'd actually have something to talk about. But no, we have to pretend that a turret perk is hurting people. I don't know, maybe you guys think that people who actually have Tourrette's aren't able to think for themselves, that would explain a lot.

 
I was attempting a lame joke with the “name” comment, so my apologies if you took the comment seriously.
I’d say that it is completely understandable in your case. I’m genuinely sorry you’ve had to deal with that all your life; it must be frustrating.
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I did not take the name thing seriously the joke must have went over my head I guess. Thank you for understanding my situation but you shouldn't be sorry, its not your fault.

 
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How? How is it in poor taste? Seriously why can no one tell me why the perk name is so degrading and horrible? Everyone is kicking around the idea that TFP is trying to make this horridly offensive game yet no one can explain why it's so bad? It makes me seriously question whether you actually care about people with the ailments that TFP are "making light of", because several have now commented expressing their complete lack of care about this issue. Most think it's funny, so if you are genuinely worried that TFP is upping depression rates I got news for ya.
I would be on your side of the argument if the perk description berated you for being subhuman or if TFP put racial slurs in their item descriptions. Then we'd actually have something to talk about. But no, we have to pretend that a turret perk is hurting people. I don't know, maybe you guys think that people who actually have Tourrette's aren't able to think for themselves, that would explain a lot.
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it offends the zombies! lol

 
People also find stripper zombies a poor taste.
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how?!?! its a job "profession" and its the way she died! and that the way the job is and plus is not like she's fully nude!

in that case the cop zombie is a stereotype cuz hes fat!

spider zombies is offensive against crackheads (that's my guess what he is)

etc

 
I found it hilarious, honestly. Kind of nice to see a company having a sense of humor. Rather than looking for somethign to be offended about, go do something productive.

 
I found it hilarious, honestly. Kind of nice to see a company having a sense of humor. Rather than looking for somethign to be offended about, go do something productive.
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productive adjectivepro·​duc·​tive | \ prə-ˈdək-tiv , prō-\

Definition of productive

1: having the quality or power of producing especially in abundance

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2: effective in bringing about

investigating committees have been productive of much good

— R. K. Carr

3a: yielding results, benefits, or profits

b: yielding or devoted to the satisfaction of wants or the creation of utilities

4: continuing to be used in the formation of new words or constructions

un- is a productive prefix

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Well his post did produce some stuff in other posts. It might not be bring about the results you want but it was a productive OP wither good or bad.

 
wither[ with-er ]
verb (used without object)

to shrivel; fade; decay:

The grapes had withered on the vine.

to lose the freshness of youth, as from age (often followed by away).

verb (used with object)

to make flaccid, shrunken, or dry, as from loss of moisture; cause to lose freshness, bloom, vigor, etc.:

The drought withered the buds.

to affect harmfully:

Reputations were withered by the scandal.

to abash, as by a scathing glance:

a look that withered him.
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-Morloc

 
I had a girlfriend who was a stripper and she made 300.00 cash at her night job, she basically just made horny guys hornier and then she would forget it and walk away with hundreds of dollars in cash, this was in the mid 90s so $300.00 as a part time night job was a quite a bit of money. I did not mind at all and I am sure she did not either and explained she was an Exotic Dancer not a stripper BTW.

The one zombie having convulsions seems to be a meth head and its possible the large woman zombie may remind people of their aunts, I call her "big bertha" as an affectionate name. Some people may have family that are cops and that may make them uncomfortable with the way they are portrayed.

Lots of games have subject manner that people will always be offended by, possibly who they personally identify with may be portrayed in bad taste in a game, its just human nature.

Its possible there are a lot of demons in hell that are truly offended with Doom series and that they are always being portrayed as the bad guys.

 
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I'm still of the opinion that "turret syndrome" is a pun. People don't like puns, but that's because puns are the best at being terrible.

 
Some who are suffering from it have actually spoken up and found it hilarious...
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People don't get to be "not offended" on behalf of others.

Someone with a neurological disorder doesn't get to excuse insensitivity on behalf of others just because they, personally, aren't offended by it. You don't get to interject when someone is bothered by something and say "oh, I have X too, it's fine." You CAN stick up for people in tough situations by opposing insensitive behavior though. In this case in particular, why on earth would someone with Tourette's divulge their medical history to complain about this, ESPECIALLY given the other responses on this forum to things like this?

Still don't get it? next time someone cuts right in front of you in a line and you're getting upset by it, imagine someone at the far back of the line...or even better yet, already ahead of you, saying "Oh it's OK, I don't mind..."

 
People don't get to be "not offended" on behalf of others.
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You're correct sir! The strange thing is the only people who seem to have any real beef with the perk name are people who don't have the syndrome claiming it's offensive, speaking on behalf of ALL TOURETTES PEOPLE EVERYWHERE. The amount of ego involved to say that something offends an entire demographic is insane.

Someone with a neurological disorder doesn't get to excuse insensitivity on behalf of others just because they, personally, aren't offended by it. You don't get to interject when someone is bothered by something and say "oh, I have X too, it's fine."
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Okay well by that logic you don't get to interject when people find something funny. Still don't get it? Imagine a comedian tells a produce joke and you laugh because it was a good joke. Then someone next to you in the crowd (who clearly has never planted a seed in his life) says "That's not funny, it's offensive to farmers and demeans the work that they do". Then they shoot the comedian for being a farmist piece of garbage and burn the whole theater down.

 
Okay well by that logic you don't get to interject when people find something funny.
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no, you're misrepresenting my point. You ARE able to interject that something IS offensive - but you don't get to tell people that something is "ok" and that something they find offensive isn't.
Still don't get it? Imagine a comedian tells a produce joke and you laugh because it was a good joke. Then someone next to you in the crowd (who clearly has never planted a seed in his life) says "That's not funny, it's offensive to farmers and demeans the work that they do".
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See here's what I don't get, you absolutely butcher and misrepresent my point...and then perfectly illustrate it right after...This is exactly right. That person may well be offended and have every right to be offended. YOU don't get to use the half-a** excuse "oh, it was just a joke"

Then they shoot the comedian for being a farmist piece of garbage and burn the whole theater down.
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uh-huh. sure.
You seem to assume that the people saying that the name is insensitive are offended FOR others. That we're trying to speak for people who can't speak for themselves. We aren't, I'm not. I'M offended by the insensitivity. It's making light of a neurological disorder. A neurological disorder that is oft misunderstood and mocked and mistreated due to blanket, harmful, or untrue stereotypes. Stereotypes perpetrated by situations like this skill name.

There. Now I've told you WHY it's insensitive. It makes light of something unfortunate. It invites people to chuckle at and make a joke of something that people struggle to deal with. It doesn't directly affect me. But it absolutely INDIRECTLY affects me, and an unbelievably vast number of other people. Making light of this is symptomatic of a culture that demeans and jokes about differences and the struggles of others. When later on, someone mocks and jokes about something that you, personally, might struggle horribly with, know that defending the behavior when it was aimed at others might directly lead to others leaving you all on your own when it's your personal struggle.

Is it huge infraction? some catastrophically insensitive thing that will hurt a group of people for years to come? Not in the slightest...but it's still insensitive, and in this particular case UNBELIEVABLY EASY to rectify....so...why not rename it? Why not rename it because if nothing else, this post shows that there certainly are people that DO find it insensitive. Unless the naming of the perk and choosing not to name it shows exactly what the powers-that-be in this game think of people who are bothered by something in the game - which is the case they've shown time and again, with the stripper zombie, with the "rude" trader, etc.

So we keep chiming in. Because whether they change it or not, people who are bothered by it can at least come to the forums and see that not everyone brushes it off, and that some people will call it out when they see it.

 
no, you're misrepresenting my point. You ARE able to interject that something IS offensive - but you don't get to tell people that something is "ok" and that something they find offensive isn't.
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Uhh... Okay? That's a pretty blatant double standard. You can make the claim that something is offensive but you're not allowed to disagree with that? Not even people with Tourettes who have explicitly voiced that they liked the pun? How is this a fair argument at this point?

See here's what I don't get, you absolutely butcher and misrepresent my point...and then perfectly illustrate it right after...This is exactly right. That person may well be offended and have every right to be offended. YOU don't get to use the half-a** excuse "oh, it was just a joke" uh-huh. sure.
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Actually yes we do get to use that "excuse", there is a huge difference between intentionally trying to verbally abuse people and trying to get a laugh. When people get offended over jokes they seem to forget that there wasn't any harm intended, the only harm coming from the joke is in their own head. They're working themselves up and finding an invisible cat in a dark room in a pocket dimension that doesn't exist. Especially in this case. The only link between the disease and the perk name is that their syllables happen to be similar in pronunciation. That's it. No harm, no spite, no bitterness. It's just a pun. A really clever one at that.

You seem to assume that the people saying that the name is insensitive are offended FOR others. That we're trying to speak for people who can't speak for themselves. We aren't, I'm not. I'M offended by the insensitivity. It's making light of a neurological disorder. A neurological disorder that is oft misunderstood and mocked and mistreated due to blanket, harmful, or untrue stereotypes. Stereotypes perpetrated by situations like this skill name.
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...How? How on god's green earth is this perk name contributing to systemic oppression of sufferers of Tourette's? More importantly, why is making light of something bad? You know I'd like to think that people who suffer from things would rather have a chuckle about themselves then wallow in misery over their condition. Oh wait, that's actually the case! Several people with the syndrome have commented now saying that they liked it! Personally if I were in their position I wouldn't be able to sleep, but I guess they have much bigger problems in life than a video game with a single pun.

There. Now I've told you WHY it's insensitive. It makes light of something unfortunate. It invites people to chuckle at and make a joke of something that people struggle to deal with. It doesn't directly affect me. But it absolutely INDIRECTLY affects me, and an unbelievably vast number of other people. Making light of this is symptomatic of a culture that demeans and jokes about differences and the struggles of others. When later on, someone mocks and jokes about something that you, personally, might struggle horribly with, know that defending the behavior when it was aimed at others might directly lead to others leaving you all on your own when it's your personal struggle.
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Again, why is making light of it a bad thing? And hell yes we live in a society, we like humor and comedy. And it turns out the best way to get a good laugh is to make light of something dark. It makes the dark thing not so scary anymore, comedy is a comfort to us. I'm kind of short myself and I'm a bit conscious of it, but I still laugh at 5'11" vs 6'0" jokes. Again most people would rather laugh about their misfortune than wallow in it. Wanna see an example of people who can't laugh at themselves and get offended over everything at their expense? Look up a subreddit called "braincels", you're in for a treat.

Is it huge infraction? some catastrophically insensitive thing that will hurt a group of people for years to come? Not in the slightest...but it's still insensitive, and in this particular case UNBELIEVABLY EASY to rectify....so...why not rename it? Why not rename it because if nothing else, this post shows that there certainly are people that DO find it insensitive. Unless the naming of the perk and choosing not to name it shows exactly what the powers-that-be in this game think of people who are bothered by something in the game - which is the case they've shown time and again, with the stripper zombie, with the "rude" trader, etc.

So we keep chiming in. Because whether they change it or not, people who are bothered by it can at least come to the forums and see that not everyone brushes it off, and that some people will call it out when they see it.
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I mean, if the TFP clearly don't care about PC culture and don't care that "it's insensitive", why are you here? Most people despise PC culture because it sucks the fun out of everything, and trust me when I say that this mindset of "eveything is offensive" is not liked in 7DTD. Let alone society. We live in a society.

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