PC The Offtopic, A17 thread.

please fix this message on the main page. so much noise has been done. you have hurt some people, with your fake dates
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I would imagine these same people melt to goo at an ACTUAL problem if one were to arise.

#FakeDates = custom_hero's Friday Nights

I just KNOW thats getting edited but YOLO!

 
this is how you take an overwhelmingly positive community and make it toxic. "here you go FORTNITE. here is money and players, we don't want them anymore" this game will be completely forgotten about in 6 months if it takes that long. prove me wrong.
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That's a simple thing to prove. Come on back in 6 months and see for yourself. Til then? You won't be missed.

 
A17-E will be done when it's done.

LMFAO!!!!!!!!

Ok December might be too early probably closer to January now last time that was said it was months.

Good Ol' Fun Pimps We can count on you to be months late why do you even bother with dates just don't post about it until your close within a few months.

 
this is how you take an overwhelmingly positive community and make it toxic. "here you go FORTNITE. here is money and players, we don't want them anymore" this game will be completely forgotten about in 6 months if it takes that long. prove me wrong.
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Ok, so that means I have to playing Fortnite? :( damnit TFP! Look what you did!

 
see what happens when you replace the amazing progress bar?! Do you see?! You get people who can't understand what tentatively means, or what an estimation is. The troll in me would just put "maybe tomorrow"
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I'd put something like "A17 experimental has dropped. PM Ronald for the steam beta key and password."

-A

 
A17-E will be done when it's done.
LMFAO!!!!!!!!

Ok December might be too early probably closer to January now last time that was said it was months.

Good Ol' Fun Pimps We can count on you to be months late why do you even bother with dates just don't post about it until your close within a few months.
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XP will be out sooner than that, it's close so just enjoy the summer & when Fall approaches it should be out. The Stable build will be done late Dec. to Feb...Trust me...

 
MM gameplay-> Spider Meme -> Stream Blitz ->-> Release Candidate -> A17-E

Does this stuff even matter anymore, Just stop giving dates. That has been the Policy since this game came out so why do we keep coming up with all these mind games on Release Dates. I agree with everyone else just quit giving dates out.

 
It's not possible to get rid of... Just see post above...
Is futile! ;)
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They're like ♥♥♥♥ing weeds. The craziest part is that those people seem to enjoy inflicting their misery upon us.

Nothing was deleted—just moved. Same thing that has been done for several alphas now whenever the dev diary goes too far off topic and release date nagging in the dev diary is against the rules so those posts have been moved to a new thread in off topic where the discussion may continue if people need to vent.
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I never even knew about that! Maybe somebody could tell me what the hell rep is while we're explaining things about this forum. Is rep like the points on "Whose Line is it Anyway"?

I would imagine these same people melt to goo at an ACTUAL problem if one were to arise.
#FakeDates = custom_hero's Friday Nights

I just KNOW thats getting edited but YOLO!
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At least I got to see it unedited, and even got to make a copy! It's more difficult to track down all the copies. Roland doesn't have time to read through and moderate 25000 posts...does he?

 
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If you wanna do a bad joke, at least make sure the non-masked url doesnt show the video poster. OnlyPaddyxD. Nice try though.
Cheers
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The only purpose of these posts is for a laugh, and a slight reminder to the dev's that the videos mean a whole hell of a lot to a whole hell of a lot of us; so we would love one when time allows. The feeling of being in the 'loop' without having to spend countless hours bantering on the forums is a good thing for the community imho! IF the videos offend or annoy just ignore them like I do with most of the pointless posts!!

 
I had a player on my server with more than 13,000 hours. It was crazy. I have 4k+ and several hundred in IRC managing the game from afar. But 9k is some serious time in. Thanks for catching all those bugs for us!

 
I agree with you but people often use humor to discuss difficult topics but in this particular case we just like making fun of the crazy guy with the silly mustache and he deserves that and more, that demon is in the deepest darkest hell right now.
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Society has always had its "Most Evil Person" to revile. If I remember the list for the past 2000 years correctly it goes...

Hitler

Ghengis Khan

Caligula

Tutankhamun

There are, of course, local variations but these are generally agreed to be the worst examples of humanity for their respective era.

 
Society has always had its "Most Evil Person" to revile. If I remember the list for the past 2000 years correctly it goes...
Hitler

Ghengis Khan

Caligula

Tutankhamun

There are, of course, local variations but these are generally agreed to be the worst examples of humanity for their respective era.
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That is the amateur list. The true professional's were Stalin and Mao. The 100+ million head count between them exceeds anything: only the Black Death and The Spanish flu come close.

Edit: So far anyway. No one has "Pushed the Button", yet.

:)
 
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That is the amateur list. The true professional's were Stalin and Mao. The 100+ million head count between them exceeds anything: only the Black Death and The Spanish flu come close.
Edit: So far anyway. No one has "Pushed the Button", yet.
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Of course you could subdivide it to damn near infinity, I was just going for the overall winners. :-)

Genghis Khan came damn close to global genocide. He killed so many people that global CO2 levels dropped dramatically because there weren't as many cooking fires.

 
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Nope. Your entire list was not even equal to ether one of their killing powers.
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It's not necessarily about kill-count. Caligula has a tiny kill-count but what he did pushed the boundries of decency to new levels. Perception trumps numbers in this measurement.

 
Blaming the Community for Your Own Incompetence

Hey Skippy,
No disrespect meant. I know not everyone reads every single post as they try to catch up on all the posts so I will break it down for you and everyone else who are wondering what happened.

In June Madmole said in a video that he was hopeful that they would be done with A17 by the end of July. He admitted that it was a guess but that it was his estimate on what he felt would be possible.

In early July the team made the choice to upgrade to Unity 2018.2 because at first glance it appeared that it would have some solid performance benefits and no major inconsistencies from the previous version. It was a risk but one they felt was worth it for the benefits. They were right about the benefits but they were wrong about inconsistencies. It turned out their shaders became incompatible and needed to be redone. This caused a delay much longer than they anticipated.

Towards the end of July, as people were submitting bug fixes and uploading new art assets from their local builds to the shared build the magnitude of new art assets overwhelmed the atlases that they use. This has caused another unforeseen delay as they have had to find an alternative solution to be able to include all the new art in the game. They have found a solution and are doing that conversion. The bad news is the delay it caused but the good news is that all the new content that will be included in A17 is awesome and will be able to be supported.

At the end of July when I knew that Madmole's guess was going to be wrong I changed the date to August which caused an eruption from a segment of the community who thought that "hope" and "guess" and "estimate" really meant "promise" and "vow" and "set in stone". Then when August 1st came and all the "It's August where is it?" posts started appearing I changed it to "August or....." so that people would know that even August was just an estimate. But people went ballistic and the dev diary went off the rails. I had to move over 150 posts out of this thread all because some people couldn't understand the difference between "Maybe" and "Definitely".

That is how "It's done when its done" came about. I realized that the immature segment would never understand the concept of "estimate" and if they were going to be mad no matter what then I didn't want to have to deal with constantly updating the date. I added the smilie because someone thought the phrase sounded petulant and passive aggressive and smilies always make forum posts better. Right?

But now....lol....we have people trying to assign special meaning to the smilie...

It will be done just as soon as the unforeseen issues are handled and the known bugs that are considered show-stoppers are squished. There aren't going to be any more Unity updates before A17 and they know the full extent of the massive amount of new content and have a framework that can support it all. They are not holding out on us and stringing us along. They will get it into our hands at the soonest possible moment they can.
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I made a forum account after years of simply coming here to check updates and lurk conversations, just to reply to this.

It's all well and good to have a hope or estimated wait time. It's through the lack of ability to post any sort of clear answer to anyones questions that you have an irate crowd (as usual). Your post is one of a very small handful I've ever seen from the development team which actually tries to give a concise run down on particulars. The idea of communicating to your audience with 'it's done when it's done' or through 'august or..', without additional commentary or a link to something (as was posted to your comment above) is ludicrous and shouldn't be expected to fly. I noticed you used the word 'immature' to describe part of your community, and honestly, I can't see how you could possibly imagine the way the Fun Pimps conduct PR and communicate with the devotees to the game as anything but. The presumption seems to be you're doing us some huge favor, while in reality, we (the customers) are doing you the favor by giving your company the time of day. You all should deeply consider hiring someone capable of development update posts, communication with players, and marketing your product. What you have going on right now (and for years prior) is embarrassing, and only reflects poorly on yourselves.

 
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