PC The Offtopic, A17 thread.

It's not necessarily about kill-count. Caligula has a tiny kill-count but what he did pushed the boundries of decency to new levels. Perception trumps numbers in this measurement.
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So a spoiled boy who acted indecent is worse than someone who kills tens of millions? In who's mind? Certainly not in the millions that died.

I would say some forum members act indecently, I don't see them on your list.

 
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So a spoiled boy who acted indecent is worse than someone who kills tens of millions? In who's mind? Certainly not in the millions that died.
I would say some forum members act indecently, I don't see them on your list.
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I said the "worst examples of humanity for their respective era". It's not my opinion but that of the ancient scholars around at the time. Until Caligula the most referenced evil person in ancient literature was Tutenkhamun. Stalin, and indeed the USSR, were a long way in future at that point.

If you go by percentage of global population killed then Genghis Khan wins by a long shot. The only reason he didn't kill more people is that there weren't enough people around for him to kill.

 
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I made a forum account after years of simply coming here to check updates and lurk conversations, just to reply to this.
It's all well and good to have a hope or estimated wait time. It's through the lack of ability to post any sort of clear answer to anyones questions that you have an irate crowd (as usual). Your post is one of a very small handful I've ever seen from the development team which actually tries to give a concise run down on particulars. The idea of communicating to your audience with 'it's done when it's done' or through 'august or..', without additional commentary or a link to something (as was posted to your comment above) is ludicrous and shouldn't be expected to fly. I noticed you used the word 'immature' to describe part of your community, and honestly, I can't see how you could possibly imagine the way the Fun Pimps conduct PR and communicate with the devotees to the game as anything but. The presumption seems to be you're doing us some huge favor, while in reality, we (the customers) are doing you the favor by giving your company the time of day. You all should deeply consider hiring someone capable of development update posts, communication with players, and marketing your product. What you have going on right now (and for years prior) is embarrassing, and only reflects poorly on yourselves.
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Thanks for your feedback. Just some points of clarification:

1) Nobody is entitled to the details of what goes on between the developers. Giving details of setbacks or of what the developers are working on is always going to be a rare occurrence. Companies enjoy their privacy just as much as individuals do. I've already seen several posts here and on Steam and thanks to some reposts from Reddit by some altruistic people I've seen the result of sharing the details of setbacks. While developers do appreciate those who understand and encourage them, there are a lot of responses that include ridicule, that accuse them of incompetence, and that try to use normal setbacks as a way to drag the studio's name through the mud. So typically, you are going to get a generic, "There were delays" and anything more than that really is a gift.

2) The word "immature" was not used to describe those who are hungry for news or frustrated that A17 hasn't come out. I was very specific about the people I used that word to describe and it is not the group you are describing so you probably need to read what I posted a bit more carefully. Nevermind. I'll restate it it here. People who read phrases like "It's my hope that..." or "It's just a guess" or "the estimated date is..." and process those phrases as "I promise that..." or "It's guaranteed..." or "the rock solid deadline is..." and then rant about how promises were broken and the devs lied are 100% immature and I'll add the words "ignorant" and "naive" to that as well. I'll double down on THAT all the day long. I don't even accept linguistics as an excuse. Not even google translate will screw up a word like "guess" and turn it into the Russian equivalent of "promise". I'm trying really hard not to say the s word here that ends in -pidity because I know that gets people bent out of shape...

The rest of of what you post is your opinion about what The Fun Pimps should do to fix their supposedly embarrassing and poor public relations which you are certainly entitled to share. Again, thanks for your feedback and for getting out of lurker status.

 
The Gronk should put him on "The List"
Person who causes the most internet crocodile tears... and baths in them!
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Most evil person of their era while accounting for local variation? Yeah, Guppy's just about beating Trolland for the title :-)

 
Electric tools are cheaper (i.e. more disposable should I uh, "break" them). Just saying.

@Roland: You're the face of the company now homie, can't be using trigger words. =)

(of course, what make a word a trigger these days is a pretty large list).

 
Electric tools are cheaper (i.e. more disposable should I uh, "break" them). Just saying.
@Roland: You're the face of the company now homie, can't be using trigger words. =)

(of course, what make a word a trigger these days is a pretty large list).
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Hahaha for sure they can be a bit cheaper, BUT - gas powered tools have more power. Just food for though if you have plans to attack certain beards in the future. You might have better luck, but kinda harder to mask the noise!

 
@Roland: You're the face of the company now homie, can't be using trigger words. =)
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I'm saying it a lot more gently than others with beards would. Besides...I have a feeling that the people who are outraged by anything I've ever posted have friends who are used to taking what they say with a grain of salt.

It's either that or the malcontents don't realize they're on a friggin' video game site run by a company called "The Fun Pimps" and populated by gamers used to trash talking and maybe think this is the Mayo Clinic and we're all talking about terminal diseases...

 
Hahaha for sure they can be a bit cheaper, BUT - gas powered tools have more power. Just food for though if you have plans to attack certain beards in the future. You might have better luck, but kinda harder to mask the noise!
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Ya keep giving him ideas, some day he will attach it to his backpack and forget to turn it off. Its all gonna be your fault.

Roland thank you for your previous post. Hope lots of ppl read it and realise what is going on here with respect and patience. Thanks man.

 
I miss the indie time... Less angry idiots, more screwy dev comments :) .
Ahh well, everything evolves I guess...
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Roland recently said that no piece of complain or rage would accelerate the developement. Wise words that even could be added to the first post , since this is reallity.

 
Roland recently said that no piece of complain or rage would accelerate the developement. Wise words that even could be added to the first post , since this is reallity.
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Yeah, might make for a good intro text...

"Please dont drop you crap in this forum. Nobody cares, especially the devs".

That should do it, no?

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Yup. Except your avatar is still an ugly duckling, when will is become a swan?
While I've gone from Bear, to Blimp, to Batman. I'll need another B avatar soon.

***At Al's Marine and Disco Bar, we care that you spend all your casino token here... ALL of them. ***
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Well... I cant find a cooler duck than Le Quark. And he's only every drawn at one age. ;)

 
Yeah, might make for a good intro text..."Please dont drop you crap in this forum. Nobody cares, especially the devs".

That should do it, no?
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Not like that they don`t care, they just don`t pay attention. It is in human nature to act like cranky baby because something didn`t happened as you like/accept/understant. Not you in particular, just human nature.

But I would totally be a bit harsh on them.

That`s why we have ninja R. ;)

 
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Society has always had its "Most Evil Person" to revile. If I remember the list for the past 2000 years correctly it goes...
Hitler

Ghengis Khan

Caligula

Tutankhamun

There are, of course, local variations but these are generally agreed to be the worst examples of humanity for their respective era.
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Was going to say that if you are part of western society there SHOULD be Stalin with "muh over 40 millions killed" in there but hey, seems like I was late...

 
I'm trying really hard not to say the s word here that ends in -pidity because I know that gets people bent out of shape...
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I know you mean "serendipity", but you spelled it wrong! :smile-new:

 
Yeah, might make for a good intro text..."Please dont drop you crap in this forum. Nobody cares, especially the devs".

That should do it, no?
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Except that those types are the ones who don't read the first page (or any of them) and spew whatever bile comes to mind, troll the first few white knight responses and disappear until the next alpha as a new account.

 
Not like that they don`t care, they just don`t pay attention. It is in human nature to act like cranky baby because something didn`t happened as you like/accept/understant. Not you in particular, just human nature. But I would totally be a bit harsh on them.

That`s why we have ninja R. ;)
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Yeh, he must eat a lot of ...... from the community.

It is fun, to try and find the cleverly hidden passive aggressive hits in his long update posts.

I'm thinking, ok "this" is what people will be pissy about. And then it's some else entirely, like a smiley, haha...

 
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