The missed post from JaWoodle

[FramFramson]

Leaving aside morality and blame games, I do not at all understand what TFP hopes to gain from going after Jawoodle so hard.

Even when they're in the right, those sort of heavy tactics only ever costs a company sales and reputation; it never improves those things. It's even dumber when coops came out literally just a few days afterwards (yes, the bandits were probably more important, but it still contributes to making TFP look bad).

Just seems like comically bad comms and legal strategy to me. Taking the "biting the hand that feeds him" analogy a step further, if someone's out feeding the ducks or the squirrels or whatever and they bite him, anyone watching would naturally expect them to stop feeding said critter. But if he flips out and starts chasing that animal around with a stick, the same observer's going to not only think that guy's ■■■■ing crazy, but even start to figure the animal was right to bite them!

 

[HammerDano]

What?

That doesn't matter. They didn't want these bandits and the other content revealed. And that also doesn't answer the rest of my questions.

Still there was no clear indication that TFP/BHVR was continuing to seek legal action...despite what the title stated.

And two wrongs don't make a right.
And also you can't use philanthropy against claims of a god complex and narcissism when it's known that narcissists with god complexes like to show how philanthropic they are.

just to give you the info...not to give you grief : Jawoodle's video is called "they THREATENED to sue me"...not "they are suing me" you and some other people seem to have misread that.

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And now the game has magically gone from Very Positive recent reviews on Steam to Mixed.

Hopefully, this triggers Valve’s system and they start excluding these disingenuous negative reviews from the rating.

It would be sickening to know that anyone could be held hostage by a bunch of parasocial sycophants.

to be fair TFP showed these people that it is only the bottom line that seems to motivate them into actually listening.

 

[Rooster Gold]

I'm not the biggest TFP fan but c'mon. Jawoodle f'ed around and found out.

He was asked to take out the material, chose to bite the hand that feeds him. What did he think was going to happen?

My thoughts exactly

 

[Adam the Waster]

I read a lot of people saying that it's TFP's fault, they screwed up by releasing the wrong version.

If you're so enraged with TFP why don't you guys direct your rage towards the employee, inside The Fun Pimps, who actually screwed up?
He (or she) should be fired.

In the same way, JaWoodle after refusing to edit out of his videos the undisclosed content, must pay in whatever way TFP can enforce their interests, be it ending the collaboration with him or legally enforcing the agreement.

Justice should be done on both sides, right?

Agreed. The person clearly messed up

 

[GoatBoySteve]

I want to add my voice to the others here asking The Fun Pimps to take it easy on JaWoodle. Josh is a prominent member of the community, his work on base building is where many of us get our start.

Pursuing legal action against him is already impacting the way I see the TFP. I know he inadvertently leaked some stuff they weren't ready to leak, but it's not gonna hurt them. I saw that video and it got me excited, but TFP reaction to the leak is kinda ruining that excitement. They're coming off as bullies in this, picking on a small content creator who has spent years fostering love for their game.

 

[pahbi]

As best as I can tell, Jawoodle looked at the software he was given, found something interesting and then made a video about that discovery. Which is exactly what I'd expect a content creator to do.

TFPs response to a content creator who has given them years of free advertisement has just been stupid.

Seriously, all of this drama is because someone showed a couple minutes of a bandit and a chicken. FFS quit being so petty.

 

[bdubyah]

I know he inadvertently leaked some stuff they weren't ready to leak, but it's not gonna hurt them.

I get what you're saying, but look at it from the dev's side. They put all this work into bandits, and are still working on them and some YTer is showing an incomplete version of them that doesn't look the best. If they wanted to show off where they were, they'd have done that.

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TFPs response to a content creator who has given them years of free advertisement has just been petty beyond belief.

Honestly, seeing this take over and over is getting old. Yes, Woodle has given them a good bit of advertisement over the years. His channel would also probably not exist if not for the game. Without him, the game would be fine.

 

[Rooster Gold]

JaWoodles video had players thinking cargo mods nolonger stack.
And needed to come down or be edited.
Instead he chose to use the "I'm not an employee" antagonistic reply.
His stubbornness to leave it up after given every opportunity is baffling.

The review bombing doesn't help his case.

 

[生生存存]

Perhaps TFP could release an official video or host a dedicated livestream. Offering exclusive cosmetic giveaways throughout the broadcast would help defuse the current tense community atmosphere, alongside a preview of new content planned for the future of 7 Days to Die.

 

[Kalex]

If he was paying attention he would've known 3.0 was the Sandbox update, not the bandit update. You think they would just add them in and not mention them anywhere? Use your brain.

Except TFP has in the past snuck unannounced things into an experimental patch as a "surprise", so they have done stuff like this before and it is not unreasonable to expect it to happen again.

Honestly, I don't think this incident would even have happened before TFP sold out to BI and now that BI is in control, they are acting like ■■■■■■■■s.

 

[Mamzir]

It was done by accident, not intentionally.

He's not responsible for their mistake. Also "Hi Little"...

 

[bdubyah]

Except TFP has in the past snuck unannounced things into an experimental patch as a "surprise", so they have done stuff like this before and it is not unreasonable to expect it to happen again.

You can't be serious. You think bandits of all things would be something they would sneak into a patch? You just can't be serious... What have they ever "snuck" into a patch anywhere near the level of bandits?