ProlificPoultry
Refugee
You hope the guy that raises hundreds of thousands of dollars for Animal Rescue gets bled dry financially? What’s the matter with you?
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Prisma501
Survivor
He brought this upon himself. Choices have consequences. No pity from me indeed. Making hundreds of thousands dollars for himself and biting the hand that feeds him? Plain stupid right?
Not for nothing but John D. Rockefeller and Andrew Carnegie were also big into philanthropy and they basically helped to destroy the world.
bdubyah
Hunter
That has nothing to do with this incident. If not for 7 Days to Die he wouldn't have been in the position he was in to raise that kind of money to begin with.
Adams Eden
Refugee
Just because a person does good things don’t make them good or right. Consequences still follow your actions. And if he cared so much about his charity drives should have have thought of the consequences and impact it would have had.
You can’t defend a man that inflicts the injury on himself. And said he did on his own video and boards. Every good deed or thing he does just shows how selfish he was in the end and didn’t think of the consequences.
ProlificPoultry
Refugee
I said that because they’re judging him and his character claiming he’s got some god-complex and that he deserves financial ruin from this despite using the game to raise money for an animal shelter. Some people are keeping Josh’s character out of the matter but it’s when they use this as a base to claim that he thought he was invincible and that he instigated the review bomb or just make him out to be some horrible person is when it becomes a problem.
LittleNightma
Survivor
Looks like he blurred out the date/time?
ProlificPoultry
Refugee
I just responded to someone about why I said this. I didn’t bring that up as a defense for his actions I brought it up because they think he’s got a god complex and “invincible” when he’s used the game to do good. And yeah it does look pretty bad to claim that someone gets financially ruined out of a situation like this when they do raise money for charity.
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That’s not even remotely comparable. The worst thing he did was stand on his principles and refuse the fun pimps and behaviors requests after they screwed up. I don’t defend his actions but I do think claiming he’s got a “god complex” and deserves financial ruin out of this looks vindictive and awful despite the public good he’s done
ProlificPoultry
Refugee
I just said hundreds of thousands for Animal Rescue. He did it for charity to help animals until they find their forever homes. He did it to help animals. He had a charity stream to help animals and he’s done these the past few years. For the animals. Again, note the animals and charity and animal rescue…?
theFlu
Hunter
Releasing the wrong build is one thing.
Demanding pointless edits / deletion is another.
One can criticize one while accepting the other. And criticizing either isn't much of an attack.
My opinion, having watched most of Woodie's recent explanation... Just drop the lawsuit, the suits don't need to get payed over this kind of nonsense. There's nothing good that can come of it, the harm is minimal, and over. The video is down. Anything beyond this point is just ego...
ProlificPoultry
Refugee
You're using his charity work to clean things and I'm saying that being philanthropic does not automatically make one a "good guy".
In fact it is a strategy, started by Rockefeller, to keep one's image looking clean. It's emotionally manipulative.
bdubyah
Hunter
I mean, the vast majority of money didn't come from him, but his community. The community he has because of 7 Days. It's a ■■■■ty situation but he can't just play victim like he had no options. I'm never going to believe that a content creator for a game isn't aware of what each update is going to be. If he truly didn't know, then it sounds like he isn't treating his livelihood seriously enough. If I was making content I'd be looking for every crumb of info to present to my audience, I wouldn't want to look ignorant. And considering in that first 3.0 preview video he released, he did say later in the vid that he was pretty sure the bandits were just a WIP and not coming in 3.0. Didn't stop him from using it as clickbait to generate views though, did it? I just finished watching his response video and his stance seems to be since TFP wouldn't cover editing costs and all that, he didn't want to remove the content, even though the clickbaiting he had done already made him more money than a normal video would've made.
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That's what I assumed it was since that looks like discord to me. Wonder why he blurred it. He also mentioned several times that he had to make a response video because TFP had made a public statement about him, yet he kept pointing to that post as if that was the public statement. As far as I'm aware I can't see that post since I'm not a creator in that discord so I wouldn't consider that a public statement, and since they didn't mention him at all in that post I'm not really sure why he kept saying that.
Jost Amman
Hunter
Stand on his principles?? What principles? To not comply to a request to abide by an agreement?
Yeah, sure, I guess Al Capone stood on "his principles" when he illegally sold alcohol during The Prohibition, he just wanted to "help fellow Americans" after all...
theFlu
Hunter
Links plx, haven't seen the agreement myself.
ProlificPoultry
Refugee
They were live streams, they had to be public to get viewers to donate. Rockefeller made it public to curb outrage against his already scummy business practices. He was scum and everyone already knew it. Josh has had a clean PR record and has been donating way before this happened. Again, it’s not the same thing
Jost Amman
Hunter
My post was a provocation. People have been attacking TFP because they screwed up.
So what they did is either a Bug Deal... or it's no biggie. Which one?
If it's no biggie then why is everyone saying that TFP is the bad guy?
I see only one honest mistake (that can happen) on the side of TFP, and on the other side a "kid" who doesn't know how to behave in a business context (yes, even if it's the game industry it's still a professional job, or is it not?).
Do you know what state those assets were in? Do you know whether they contained licensed or third-party assets that were never cleared for public release? Do you know what kind of damage an unfinished reveal could do to the marketing of the actual finished product? That’s why the edits weren’t “pointless.”
Also, when you say "drop the lawsuit" are you referring to a lawsuit from TFP? Because despite the title saying he’s getting sued, nowhere in the video does he say a lawsuit was actually filed.
ProlificPoultry
Refugee
These history analogies are getting absolutely absurd. Like I can’t even dignify this one with a response because they’re apples and oranges and you know it or maybe you don’t?Stand on his principles?? What principles? To not comply to a request to abide by an agreement?
Yeah, sure, I guess Al Capone stood on "his principles" when he illegally sold alcohol during The Prohibition, he just wanted to "help fellow Americans" after all...