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...So thinking out loud with NO INFO to backup my thinking....

What if, TFP did buy the rights from the TTG auction, and with the PC version going gold in 2019. TFP go with IG to release 7D2D as a new game. The new game because it will take it to the same version as the PC version. TFP should have a rough idea of how many console versions were sold. Figure you will lose some who didn’t like the game to begin with, and bitter people. The group who really like the game but wanted an update would likely be the ones who pony up, with the new game and as much content as the console hardware can handle as it would likely feel like a new game anyways.

Of course there are lots of variables I don’t know so maybe it isn’t even possible. But when you know there is a chance, it is really nice to hear from the people we are all waiting to hear from. Even if it isn’t 100%.

Once again just me thinking out loud.
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It's certainly possible. Hell, if they could move to Unity 2018 on the console instead of the 2017 upgrade they were doing it would be amazing. Then they could get the same optimizations from the PC over to the console.

Just for reference, these optimization are bringing the min RAM for a17 down from 8GB RAM to a mere 2.5GB RAM. If that could be done for the console, it's entirely possible that the console could be almost 100% on-par with the current PC version.

 
they gave us an update two weeks ago. nothing but they will tell as a soon as there is any news.
they're not gonna slip you some inside scoop because you get a bunch of people to PM them.

there's no news until there's news and they'll tell us when there is.
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Pretty much this ^^^^

They been in the PC section from day one and post all the time nothing has changed on that. It has been explained time after time after time why that is. You don't have to like or agree to those reasons but it isn't goin to change anything.

As far as current consoles they will never be completely up to date with the PC version even when the PC goes gold the current consoles just can't handle everything the PC has. So I can grant you that you will be disappointed if you expecting console to be like PC. Maybe the next gen console can if they keep at it with updates and stuff that long when next gen consoles come out.

 
As far as current consoles they will never be completely up to date with the PC version even when the PC goes gold the current consoles just can't handle everything the PC has.
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I'm actually good with that. Any update at all at this point would be good, if focused on crash fixes and stability issues. If/when the new owners do update features, I'd rather not go with the full A17 experience anyway. I like my zombie loot. 😂 Adding in the dungeon style POIs would be cool, but not necessary. Hell, I'd be happy with any *new* zombies or POIs.

I'd also like to add my opinion on the new buyer situation. Honestly, I believe that the worst scenario is if TFP were the ones that bought the rights. They've already been burned pretty hard on the console once, I doubt they'd want to try to get into the console again. As such, if they're the ones that now have the rights, we'll probably not get any updates, or even any future info about the game. They'd want to keep that information under wraps so it doesn't hurt their image on PC, and the current console port owners can continue to be mad at some mystery "unknown buyer" for no news or updates. Just speculation, of course, but it makes sense from a business standpoint.

 
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I'd also like to add my opinion on the new buyer situation. Honestly, I believe that the worst scenario is if TFP were the ones that bought the rights. They've already been burned pretty hard on the console once, I doubt they'd want to try to get into the console again. As such, if they're the ones that now have the rights, we'll probably not get any updates, or even any future info about the game. They'd want to keep that information under wraps so it doesn't hurt their image on PC, and the current console port owners can continue to be mad at some mystery "unknown buyer" for no news or updates. Just speculation, of course, but it makes sense from a business standpoint.
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Well that and why should consol owners have to pay twice to get a working game from the TFP? Some people already spent $20-$30 on this game that was "complete". I couldn't image TFP having the guts to ask us to pay another $20-$30 so we actually get what we should of have since day 1. I would hope some other company with actual experience bought it and they release DLC at maybe $5-$10. I'm not sure a game this old and limited on consol is worth anymore than $30 (total) at this point

 
I'd also like to add my opinion on the new buyer situation. Honestly, I believe that the worst scenario is if TFP were the ones that bought the rights. They've already been burned pretty hard on the console once, I doubt they'd want to try to get into the console again.
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Two remarks on this:

1) Any other buyer than TFP likely has no licence to publish a new version on console since TFP seems to have revoked that right. We could speculate that TFP had no right to do that and their lawyer made a mistake or we crossly misunderstand what TFP has been saying with "The Fun Pimps immediately terminated its license agreement with Telltale, which only allowed publishing rights on the console ports". If not, only TFP has the rights to publish a new version

2) Because of 1, any buyer other than TFP is probably only in it for the further sales of 7D2D 1.0 on console (don't underestimate the value of that, over the years even a trickle of sales amounts to a nice sum). The buyer might also be in it to offer a deal to TFP that he would retain the 1.0 sales and only sell the code produced by telltale/IG to TFP. Which would still make TFP your only hope.

 
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What update from TFP was two weeks ago? Or do you mean when Roland said sorry nothing new? As I didn't think Roland worked for TFP.
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Roland is a TFP employee. He's responded in the past to an email I sent to the TFP media team. That was on May 2nd and his email stated...

"There is nothing to report as of yet. The Fun Pimps are pursuing their best options but cannot talk about anything until the outcome is certain one way or another.

 


Regards,

 


Roland


The Fun Pimps"

 
Roland is a TFP employee. He's responded in the past to an email I sent to the TFP media team. That was on May 2nd and his email stated...
"There is nothing to report as of yet. The Fun Pimps are pursuing their best options but cannot talk about anything until the outcome is certain one way or another.

 


Regards,

 


Roland


The Fun Pimps"
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Ok fair enough. I was looking for info from the fun pimp profile as that is where the initial posting came from. I hadn't realised Roland was an official source.

Thanks for the extra info Jimmy.

 
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Hi TFP, the players are still here. Have not posted in 6 months. I check the forums once every couple weeks for new info on the console situation. It is still my favorite game and holding strong for the console port to continue. Their might not be a bunch of activity on the console forum, but we are still here and waiting and not giving up hope on the best game out there. Thanks!

 
It's certainly possible. Hell, if they could move to Unity 2018 on the console instead of the 2017 upgrade they were doing it would be amazing. Then they could get the same optimizations from the PC over to the console.
Just for reference, these optimization are bringing the min RAM for a17 down from 8GB RAM to a mere 2.5GB RAM. If that could be done for the console, it's entirely possible that the console could be almost 100% on-par with the current PC version.
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Holy crikes! that would be amazing

I would pay for the game again for that

 
Holy crikes! that would be amazing
I would pay for the game again for that
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As would I. At $26 what i paid for at launch, i feel like I've more than got my money's worth. I'd 100% be down to purchase a "gold" version of the game or pony up some $ for DLC to bring us the new features & optimizations!

 
It's certainly possible. Hell, if they could move to Unity 2018 on the console instead of the 2017 upgrade they were doing it would be amazing. Then they could get the same optimizations from the PC over to the console.
Just for reference, these optimization are bringing the min RAM for a17 down from 8GB RAM to a mere 2.5GB RAM. If that could be done for the console, it's entirely possible that the console could be almost 100% on-par with the current PC version.
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any update on rights for 7DTD for ps4? we'll make it or not

 
All we know for certain is that someone got the rights. Not sure who yet.
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I am sure that TFP could confirm if they bought the rights, if they did buy the rights. Would have been nice to hear from TFP after the auction with any info they did have, assuming they did put a bid in for the asset. For all we know they didn't bid on it, and have no intention of doing anything with 7D2D for console. But hey, this silence is golden.

 
I for one I am secretly hoping Microsoft bought it. I mean why not? They bout Minecraft for an absurd amount of money. This is the adult version of Minecraft, and they could take it very far. Not to mention pay whatever amount they where asking. Just think, regular updates, new content all the time. Just a thought

 
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I am sure that TFP could confirm if they bought the rights, if they did buy the rights. Would have been nice to hear from TFP after the auction with any info they did have, assuming they did put a bid in for the asset. For all we know they didn't bid on it, and have no intention of doing anything with 7D2D for console. But hey, this silence is golden.
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I just dont see anyone but TFP being interested in getting the rights to a 3 yearish old game. that doesn't mean they want to invest more money into it, so no acknowledgement. whoever got it would have to work with TFP to do anything with it so.....

 
I just dont see anyone but TFP being interested in getting the rights to a 3 yearish old game. that doesn't mean they want to invest more money into it, so no acknowledgement. whoever got it would have to work with TFP to do anything with it so.....
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I agree, but as someone else posted about the long tail, there might be some willing to gamble that they will make money for any additional games sold via the online console stores from now until it is removed from the console stores. You can still buy 7D2D on the PS store for $29.99. Which I assume would go to the new owner of the code.

I agree if you wanted to do anything else you would need to contact TFP. Of course we will see what Sony says about future sales of the game. Not sure how long I will need to email them, but I have started that communication.

 
I just dont see anyone but TFP being interested in getting the rights to a 3 yearish old game. that doesn't mean they want to invest more money into it, so no acknowledgement. whoever got it would have to work with TFP to do anything with it so.....
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There are no absolutes when money is involved.

TFP might be willing to invest for example $300.000 into a console version, but not $3 million (somewhere inbetween those two values might be a line TFP doesn't want to cross). And most of that money needs to go into finishing that version, not all can be used for the auction.

Someone else might be interested to buy a 3 yearish old game for $30.000, but not for $300.000, because he still expects the game to sell copies for more than that amount over the next decade (EDIT: or as Freestyle604 says until it is removed from the console stores. That very much depends on what Telltale and TFP agreed upon in their contract, all bidders would have had the information available before the auction starts whether they have the rights to sell it indefinitely or if it hangs on TFP's approval)

We can only surmise with some certainty that TFP has the biggest interest of all potential bidders and therefore might see more value in it than anyone else (i.e. the sum of sales projection PLUS what the source code is worth to them for further development). But long term sales projection of a game is anything but an exact number. So if TFP undervalued the long term sales and some other company overvalued them that company might still have made a higher bid than TFP. TFP is just the most probable winner of the auction.

 
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Documentary on Telltale closure

Just stopping in to say heya to everyone and let you all know im still here either way
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Here's a new documentary on the circumstances surrounding the collapse of Telltale games. There's a lot of information in this.

 
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