Console Telltale Layoffs

"TFP are Awesome" TELLTALE Management can go________________.Fill in the blank Space.

 
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This is a Test for the TFP ppl,on how badly they want their product and Future products on Console.Because Reputation on console is everything it doesn't matter if your publishing are the IP Owner of a game,once the word is out your a gaming company that cannot be trusted in any aspect good luck making money(Bungie,EA)you may have a solid base that's all you'll have. Bottom line all I want is what everyone wants is the updated content "yes" more importantly for 7dtd to succeed on console.
PC will never die off to be totally clear. Read tha first sentence:If everything works in the TFP Favor and getting publishing back,do they just work with Iron Galaxy directly,find a new Publisher are put console 7dtd on the shelf until PC goes Gold 2019. Are the language in the contract Doesn't release TFP from it will they fight for console(Like PC) are let the contract expire then port content over. These are logical path ways for at least one will come to pass which one who knows. This is how I see it happening,either way hard choices will have to be made. I always look at negatives First to get to a positive solution.

 
Why you picked my post for your speculation bull#### I don't know. You are wrong TT has their hands in all kind of stuff. If you read in an earlier post I said they are bringing Stranded Deep to the consoles soon. Thats another survival/crafting game. Take your blabbering elsewhere and badger someone else. I'm talking to Oggblah,blah,22.

 
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It's depressing we haven't seen at least a "im ok" post from Clare. She has been our mother hen so to speak and I'm more worried about her than a yes or no to console dying or not. I hope she is well.

 
Not going to say you are wrong but some of it is speculation. We have no clue how the contract was written so we have no clue if it will be bid off or what is going on at this point. At this point of time until an actual staff member let's us know all anyone is doing is speculating. So that doesn't mean someone is wrong but also doesn't make them right either. :)
Then you have either misunderstood or have moved the goal posts.

I CLEARLY stated to take the words which they have said at face value, nothing more. No speculation.

To reiterate - they said they are working on console for as long as they can support it. I made it abundantly clear that any such ideas beyond that were speculation. In fact my original post was to address the fact that someone had stated there were TWO possible outcomes. I stated that was not the case, and there were myriad possibilities.

So please stop misrepresenting what I said. It helps nobody here to muddy the waters.

So, to reiterate - they have said that they wish to support the console versions, each for as long as they are able. And as we know of nothing within the contracts, we can assume nothing meaningful further.

Thats it.

 
So other words you wish for all to show you proof of something but you can go on about how they will bid this and do this or that with no proof? Gotcha have a good one.

 
It's depressing we haven't seen at least a "im ok" post from Clare. She has been our mother hen so to speak and I'm more worried about her than a yes or no to console dying or not. I hope she is well.
Yeah, I hope she is doing ok. It would be nice to hear something from her even if it has nothing what so ever to do with TT, IG or 7dtd. But I imagine it be hard to do that because once she did she get filled with questions that she might not even know the answers to.

 
Yeah, I hope she is doing ok. It would be nice to hear something from her even if it has nothing what so ever to do with TT, IG or 7dtd. But I imagine it be hard to do that because once she did she get filled with questions that she might not even know the answers to.
That's exactly the reason I think is why she's lurking but not posting.

 
So other words you wish for all to show you proof of something but you can go on about how they will bid this and do this or that with no proof? Gotcha have a good one.
Now youre just being silly, or just dont understand at all.

Heres some basic universal logic. The default position.

This is when a proposition is made and another person chooses to disbelieve their claim. It does NOT mean they automatically take the opposite position. It just means "you havent met your burden of proof in providing evidence to support your claim, so I cant make ANY decision".

All i did was address YOUR claim about speculation and that people were lying, by pointing out that the devs themselves have stated at the top of this very thread that consoles will be supported as long as they are able. There is ZERO reason to not believe this claim, as they have no record of flat out lying to customers.

So, I made NO claim about anything. I merely addressed YOURS that we are making stuff up.

But, as per your burden of proof, you can demonstrate evidence to the contrary and ill happily consider it. This is how reality works.

So, please, if you dont understand something ive said, dont be shy and ASK. I will happily explain, but please do not keep strawmanning me, nor the devs, or others.

You clearly misunderstood my previous point when i spoke of how bankruptcies and insolvencies work (responding to the "there are only two options available" claim). I was IN NO WAY saying thats what will happen here. I was offering what CAN happen.

In otherwords,the person claiming there were only two options on the table was making an argument from incredulity fallacy, and i offered that info to show other POSSIBILITIES. I even clearly cautioned SEVERAL TIMES not to assume nor speculate unduly. Yet you somehow think i seem to be saying the opposite.

I hope that clears it up.

 
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I'm just curious why they would claim to be upgrading there engine and say this big update was coming when this was all happening this is not something that just happened over night somewhere in the chain they new this was coming so to lead people on is a little disconsering I'm a long time 7dtd player got it as soon as I could for xbox I play every day I'm worried that they are going cut there loses and put all focus on pc this is just my opinion and I am not arguing any ones previous statements

Good day to all

 
I'm just curious why they would claim to be upgrading there engine and say this big update was coming when this was all happening this is not something that just happened over night somewhere in the chain they new this was coming so to lead people on is a little disconsering I'm a long time 7dtd player got it as soon as I could for xbox I play every day I'm worried that they are going cut there loses and put all focus on pc this is just my opinion and I am not arguing any ones previous statements Good day to all
Telltale wasn't developing the game. Iron Galaxy was.

So yeah, Telltale probably knew it was coming, but decided not to tell anyone. Including the developer they had working on stuff.

If you read the statement in the first post, you would know that they have no intention of giving up on the console versions.

 
I'm just curious why they would claim to be upgrading there engine and say this big update was coming when this was all happening this is not something that just happened over night somewhere in the chain they new this was coming so to lead people on is a little disconsering I'm a long time 7dtd player got it as soon as I could for xbox I play every day I'm worried that they are going cut there loses and put all focus on pc this is just my opinion and I am not arguing any ones previous statements Good day to all
Yeah im sure they (telltale) saw the "writng on the wall" so to speak, at least upper management. Think the 💩💩 just hit the fan sooner than expected.

I personally thought it was odd when they kept toting this walking dead game as "the final season". I figured the series was a pretty big hit, with the shows success & all, plus the game itself was fun with good story. Ive enjoyed them anyway.

Hard to say whats gonna happen in the future. Just gotta wait for some official word from someone as to what happens next.

 
Yeah im sure they (telltale) saw the "writng on the wall" so to speak, at least upper management. Think the 💩💩 just hit the fan sooner than expected.I personally thought it was odd when they kept toting this walking dead game as "the final season". I figured the series was a pretty big hit, with the shows success & all, plus the game itself was fun with good story. Ive enjoyed them anyway.

Hard to say whats gonna happen in the future. Just gotta wait for some official word from someone as to what happens next.
I dont think theres any reason to suspect the walking dead being in the last season as any sort of indicator. They would have planned for a certain length of seasons based on how long they had the licence. They are limited by that. One should note that they didnt intend this to be the end of the walking dead anyway, just the end of clementines arc.

The first game was indeed a big hit, but they have admitted themselves that the sales lessend more and more with each one. Thats precisely why they had this downfall. They oversaturated with very little to no further innovation. People just got tired of them all quickly, and those licences to batman, game of thrones, borderlands, wolf among us et al were expensive. They didnt make their money back on them.

They also were only making good income on two games towards the end - minecraft story mode, and 7 days to die.

The writing very much was on the wall, sadly. Add that to the reports of the horrible working conditions there and its not surprising.

As to whats happening in the future, for TT not very much at all as they are done. They have just announced they have apparently secured funding to complete the walking dead, angering the debtors (especially their staff). Personally, id be surprised at that unless they also pay their development team as nobodys gonna work for bugger all, passion or not. We may hear that change in the coming days; it would not surprise me .It is important to always remember that TT are thankfully only publisher for 7dtd. So while iron galaxy have some things to work through, they have every intention of seeing this through as long as they are able. As far as fun pimps and the pc version, it hasnt affected them at all. Nothing changes there.

 
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Clare is ok Mad but ok ( if employed by TT ). Most obvious reason for not replying Laid off by TT under contract with a Non Disclosure Agreement,it isn't that Clare doesn't want to reply to everyone,by Law Clare can't.

 
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Clare is ok Mad but ok (if employed by TT). Most obvious reason for not replying Laid off by TT under contract with a Gag Order,it isn't that Clare doesn't want to reply to everyone,by Law Clare can't.
Im afraid that is absolute nonsense.

Gag orders are for legal disputes administered on behalf of courts, not normal working contracts. Law isnt remotely involved here.

Youre part right, though.

She is likely not responding for the obvious reasons. Either shes gone (which id be surprised at, because I would doubt shes employed by TT if shes community person on here), or theres nothing helpful she can tell us.

You have to remember a couple of things. In winding up situations, things literally change day to day, or hour to hour. It would cause absolute chaos and misinformation if she posted one hour to say, for example "its ok, fundings been found for x", then an hour later to say "no scratch that, its changed".

Aside from that, what could she say that is really of any help, apart from "im still here"?

Also, auditors are normally largely involved in control of the company and their job is to assess and audit the assets and financials of the company and work out the best way to both close the company up, organize the debtors, etc. That is,of course, very much assuming this is the case here - take this with a pinch of salt (its from personal experience only).

So, any communication is going to be really guarded and conservative. In all likelihood, what the original post on this thread is about all you need to know at this point.

Still, you are correct in wondering whether claire is ok. It would be nice to know.

 
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Im afraid that is absolute nonsense.
Gag orders are for legal disputes administered on behalf of courts, not normal working contracts. Law isnt remotely involved here.

Youre part right, though.

She is likely not responding for the obvious reasons. Either shes gone (which id be surprised at, because I would doubt shes employed by TT if shes community person on here), or theres nothing helpful she can tell us.

You have to remember a couple of things. In winding up situations, things literally change day to day, or hour to hour. It would cause absolute chaos and misinformation if she posted one hour to say, for example "its ok, fundings been found for x", then an hour later to say "no scratch that, its changed".

Aside from that, what could she say that is really of any help, apart from "im still here"?

Also, auditors are normally largely involved in control of the company and their job is to assess and audit the assets and financials of the company and work out the best way to both close the company up, organize the debtors, etc. That is,of course, very much assuming this is the case here - take this with a pinch of salt (its from personal experience only).

So, any communication is going to be really guarded and conservative. In all likelihood, what the original post on this thread is about all you need to know at this point.

Still, you are correct in wondering whether claire is ok. It would be nice to know.

= What I meant was a Non Disclosure Agreement,I don't say anything definite about Clare being at TT for starters.Everyone is like were is Clare, I giving some reasoning why Clare isn't posting anything that's it,far as I know Clare works for TT,IG,and TFP. Lastly what I need to know is none of yours anybody else concern period.
 
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Im afraid that is absolute nonsense.
Gag orders are for legal disputes administered on behalf of courts, not normal working contracts. Law isnt remotely involved here.

Youre part right, though.

She is likely not responding for the obvious reasons. Either shes gone (which id be surprised at, because I would doubt shes employed by TT if shes community person on here), or theres nothing helpful she can tell us.

You have to remember a couple of things. In winding up situations, things literally change day to day, or hour to hour. It would cause absolute chaos and misinformation if she posted one hour to say, for example "its ok, fundings been found for x", then an hour later to say "no scratch that, its changed".

Aside from that, what could she say that is really of any help, apart from "im still here"?

Also, auditors are normally largely involved in control of the company and their job is to assess and audit the assets and financials of the company and work out the best way to both close the company up, organize the debtors, etc. That is,of course, very much assuming this is the case here - take this with a pinch of salt (its from personal experience only).

So, any communication is going to be really guarded and conservative. In all likelihood, what the original post on this thread is about all you need to know at this point.

Still, you are correct in wondering whether claire is ok. It would be nice to know.

= What I meant was a Non Disclosure Agreement,I don't say anything definite about Clare being at TT for starters.Everyone is like were is Clare, I giving some reasoning why Clare isn't posting anything that's it,far as I know Clare works for TT,IG,and TFP. Lastly what I need to know is none of yours anybody else concern period.
Theres really no need to take offence. None was intended.

I get what you mean then. Yes, its possible for nda to be in effect.

Please understand when I was addressing who claire works for, and everything else, I wasnt just referring to YOU or YOUR claim. Im trying to post for the benefit of everybody here, for the sake of clarity (you know how chinese whispers go and things get out of hand).

Finally, I never said "you need to know". I said "what you have to remember is ...". It is a figure of speech, like "bearing in mind". I was referring to the fact that concerning the subject of insolvency, you need to take certain things into account, as I explained. Ergo, things you need to remember. Anyway, Im old and likely this might not be familiar to you (plus mere text is difficult to present inflection).

So please understand there was no malice or offence intended. Im just trying to do my bit to make sure correct details get out there to everyone.
 
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