Console Telltale Layoffs

Of course I read it, and it answers none of those questions.
"...and will continue to update and support 7 Days on every platform we can"

 


Basically what it says is "PC version is fine, but other platforms are up in the air." Given that TTG were the ones actually paying Iron Galaxy for their work in porting the game, through whatever contractual arrangement agreed upon, it seems reasonable to wonder if this means the promised console update that was supposed to be released by year end will at the least be delayed while they learn what is going on and get more information. I mean, it's not like IG is gonna continue to port the game if they aren't getting paid for their work, right?
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It is way to early to jump to any conclusions. The announcement came very abrupt with no warning. These things will take time to work out. I find it very unlikely the game and updates will not continue. Just keep calm and let the logistics work itself out

 
What it means is it really isn't TFP's problem. 7DtD was never advertised as a console game, TTG came in and arranged that. It's not really on the Pimps to cover TTG's failure. Maybe TFP will help IG find new sponsors, but TFP has its hands full with the original PC version and shouldn't be expected to fix someone else's mess.
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I don’t agree. TTG going out of business isn’t their problem for sure but then again maybe it is. I’m sure the TFP made money off the deal. It’s not like they gave the game to TTG for free. So expanding markets is always a good idea if it’s lucrative. But yeah hopefully they can find a publisher if it is. IG is a contract house and pretty good at porting. IG isn’t going looking for anything. You seem like a PC player.

 
What it means is that, until we get an official announcement, we can only speculate as to what might or might not happen.

We've been waiting for a very long time for an update already so, many of us are used to it by now, so we'll just sit back and wait for official news, hopefully from Clare.

 
Personally I love the game and I play on PS4 I have spent days on this game and love every moment of it the thrill you get when you are building underground of your base and you start to hear those zombie footsteps you run up the ladder or stairs and then you try to sneak at how many there are before deciding to attack or not. But I have stopped playing for the past couple months I have to keep making new worlds just to keep interested in it and even then things are just repetitive now. An update would bring me back and ofc I know it’s not TFP responsibility to keep the console version going. But what I am going to say I’m relation to that is it would be not be a bad idea for them to try and keep the console version updating. An update to graphics and such could potentially increase the fan base by a rather large amount and could mean much more income for the whole project in its entirety. But yes I guess we just wait for the official news.

 
I don’t agree. TTG going out of business isn’t their problem for sure but then again maybe it is. I’m sure the TFP made money off the deal. It’s not like they gave the game to TTG for free. So expanding markets is always a good idea if it’s lucrative. But yeah hopefully they can find a publisher if it is. IG is a contract house and pretty good at porting. IG isn’t going looking for anything. You seem like a PC player.
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Of course I'm a PC player. Last time I limited my gaming with a console, it was a Dreamcast. But here's the simple point re: the port. TFP did make money off it. By selling the rights to the console version to TTG. Who now owns those rights until they sell them off or there are bankruptcy proceedings. TFP literally cannot do anything with the port right now.

 
Of course I'm a PC player. Last time I limited my gaming with a console, it was a Dreamcast. But here's the simple point re: the port. TFP did make money off it. By selling the rights to the console version to TTG. Who now owns those rights until they sell them off or there are bankruptcy proceedings. TFP literally cannot do anything with the port right now.
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It could be like Buffy the Vampire Slayer...

 
Of course I'm a PC player. Last time I limited my gaming with a console, it was a Dreamcast. But here's the simple point re: the port. TFP did make money off it. By selling the rights to the console version to TTG. Who now owns those rights until they sell them off or there are bankruptcy proceedings. TFP literally cannot do anything with the port right now.
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And this is just speculation. You assume this is how it is but you have no clue how the contract was set up. You might be completely right not saying you are not. It makes sense but we have no idea what is in the contract much less how it was written up.

 
iron galaxy is the developer. teltale is the publisher. im hoping this isn't why the update is taking so long. from articles i read even the employees didn't know till 30 minits before they were fired. so you ask why now. because fiscal quarter 1 starts octobee first. get everyone out berore the new fiscal year. merry christmas no bonus this year.

 
teltale games were crap except the wolf among us
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I like the walking dead series. I hope they finish this last season. They've only put out the 1st episode, suppose to be 4.

But more so i hope they continue at least with 7dtd.

 
I like the walking dead series. I hope they finish this last season. They've only put out the 1st episode, suppose to be 4.
But more so i hope they continue at least with 7dtd.
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I think it's all but officially confirmed that TWD is cancelled after episode 2...

I pray this is not the case, but I've heard it from numerous sources!

 
It could be like Buffy the Vampire Slayer...
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What, that as soon as TTG is dead, another publisher is "activated"? Unfortunately, legal agreements are rarely that soft. I feel sorry for the console players- on multiple levels ;) - but the bottom line is, they shouldn't be blaming or harassing TFP on this. This is all on TTG.

 
Option A: Pimps will cancel console port of the game :(

Option B: Pimps will wait till licence agreement with TTG to expire (3-6+ Years), invest more $$$ with new publisher and hopefully get it off the ground again...

 
What, that as soon as TTG is dead, another publisher is "activated"? Unfortunately, legal agreements are rarely that soft. I feel sorry for the console players- on multiple levels ;) - but the bottom line is, they shouldn't be blaming or harassing TFP on this. This is all on TTG.
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First off, no one has blamed TFP for TTG having to people layoff. So I'm not sure what you think people are "blaming" TFP for doing. It's not "harassment" to ask what is to come for the console version of 7 Days to Die.

Secondly, you're acting like console players have no reason to look to TFP for relevant information and the future of 7 Days to Die on consoles, especially since they have made it clear that console development is handled by TTG and Iron Galaxy and not TFP. TFP stated they intend to "continue to update and support 7 Days on every platform" that they can. What other "platforms" are there other than PC? The console editions obviously.

Also, I do wonder just how many PC players started put on the console edition of the game before deciding to switch to the PC game. And given the fact that TFP has stated more than once their end goal is to have as much parity between console and PC as possible it is not unreasonable to wonder if that is still their goal, or if TTG shutting down means the console edition is dead too.

Finally, it's obvious we'll have to wait and see what happens. And as someone else mentioned in this thread, waiting is something console players are used to.

 
Option A: Pimps will cancel console port of the game :( Option B: Pimps will wait till licence agreement with TTG to expire (3-6+ Years), invest more $$$ with new publisher and hopefully get it off the ground again...
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I would be willing to bet that there was a clause to allow TFP to cancel TTG's license in a case like this. TFP owns the name after all.

 
I would be willing to bet that there was a clause to allow TFP to cancel TTG's license in a case like this. TFP owns the name after all.
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I’m sure there was along with any number of other “reasons” including non performance. I think the key is finding a publisher who can monetize it. Let’s hope. The hand writing was on the wall a long time with respect to TTGs financials. So this probably isn’t a complete suprise and one people making deals with themmwoumd have hopefully considered.

 
did anyone here play sacred 2? ya great game whose company went broke before they could fix it. then sacred 3 came out and it was an insult to sacred fans

 
did anyone here play sacred 2? ya great game whose company went broke before they could fix it. then sacred 3 came out and it was an insult to sacred fans
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Look at home front. That was a good game and before it could get to far into it what was it THQ or something went down and no more online and no more dlc or anything. Then Home Front 2 years later and it 2as garbage.

Look at sierra studios they had a few games that was popular and who ever bought them out never touched them they just collecting dust.

Anyway not sure what my point was I'm at work and break is over lol but I think it was that those games was different. TT was just the publisher not the developers. The actual developers are still here making the game for PC. So the ports and such can still be a thing just got to give them time to figure things out. It hasn't even been a week yet.

 
did anyone here play sacred 2? ya great game whose company went broke before they could fix it. then sacred 3 came out and it was an insult to sacred fans
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God I still cringe whenever I hear Sacred 3. The first one was awesome. Then the second came along and it was EPIC, but had a few bugs. Then there was that other garbage. It didn't fit at all, much less play well.

 
Option A: Pimps will cancel console port of the game :( Option B: Pimps will wait till licence agreement with TTG to expire (3-6+ Years), invest more $$$ with new publisher and hopefully get it off the ground again...
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Ive no wish to rag on you, so please take this as polite, but this is rather an argument from incredulity fallacy (in other words, these are the options I can think of and only these).

Im afraid thats rather simplistic, as contracts are usually far more complex than this. It is entirely likely there may be void clauses for situations like these, or any number of different things. You can put largely ANYTHING in a contract. All it requires is it to be legal, and agreed upon by all parties.

So, there are a myriad of options we can imagine, and thats due to us not knowing the contract details, so it remains speculation. It could mean they could get access to buy the licence by being given "first dibs", or a cut down rate, or they might just have to wait until the auditors auction it off, if it comes to full closure.

Then theres the matter of how TT games funded iron galaxy as part of this contract. It could be the usual pro rata thing of funds released in chunks as certain targets are met; hard to say bearing in mind the "early access" nature of its development. It could be theyve had all their funding already, and that TTs role was only left to market it now at this late stage. Add to this, there may also be obligations for TT to cover - in whole or part - patch costs, etc. We just dont know how reliant iron galaxy are at this point.

Every situation is different, but one could take some inkling from thqs disaster. Look at how many licences were quickly snapped and reused. Thq nordic, for example.

So, no, they are by far not the only two options.

But it remains, at present, irrelevant as we are not privy to enough informatio. Best bet is to exercise critical thinking skills and NOT assume anything until evidence is offered to us, especially as there are millions of different permutations in how this could be affecting iron galaxy.

Lastly,please excuse my crappy typing. Im old and using a horrific touchscreen for typing this.

 
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