theFlu
Hunter
Darnit, I can't edit my signature box anymore, might add those there myself ...
Story Mode Controversy --REDUX
- Thread starter khzmusik
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Darnit, I can't edit my signature box anymore, might add those there myself ...
We probably can help you. Which one do you want? The only small catch is that every post of yours would then be flagged under rule "C3 Politics and Religion" and removed.
theFlu
Hunter
We probably can help you. Which one do you want? The only small catch is that every post of yours would then be flagged under rule "C3 Politics and Religion" and removed.
Well, yours is still up; my quote of that seems to have been tacitly approved by a moderator; I'll take my chances! Hmm, the racist bit doesn't truly fit thou, nothing closeted about my stances, and I'm largely aware of the extent of my racism - so maybe not that one, in that format. Unless you want to rephrase
Formatting:
"He is a radical right-wing ideologist, just disregard his arguments"
- Meganoth, 2026
(with a clean link to the original, of course: https://community.thefunpimps.com/goto/post?id=637437) )
Jost Amman
Hunter
Nice try.
Difference is I don't go around trying to impose my world view to other players by "convincing" TFP to change the game to suit my own views.
Also, I've never said Khz can't post his opinions, I was just dismissing them as radical left wing propaganda, because it is.
Can I, at least, express my opinion on that?
BTW: you can call me all the names you want, if you so like. We conservatives have a much thicker skin than the woke mob, you know.
Oh, but sure you try to impose your world view on other players when you are discussing stuff here in the forum. There is not much that isn't at least partly dependant on our world views.
And to TFP you try to impose your world view as well by being adament that khz's request is wrong and should be ignored by TFP because it is "from a marxist and woke radical".
And thus I would like to ask you what you asked khz: Who appointed you "Defender of TFP"?
There certainly is a big grey area somewhere but expressed this blantantly, (IMHO) no. The owners of the forum (and moderators) don't want culture wars and politics in here. You have ample opportunity for political speeches elsewhere.
BTW: you can call me all the names you want, if you so like. We conservatives have a much thicker skin than the woke mob, you know.
Since you know I can't do that, your "permission" is easily given and without consequences
. And I don't believe you and am quite sure you would shoot back and start a nice little flamewar, by the way. And that is exactly the reason politics is not allowed here.
Roland
Community Moderator
But you are imposing your world view to other players by trying to convince us that the casino Indian stereotype can just be dismissed as left wing radical woke mob rhetoric. This is exactly the type of political speech that isn’t allowed because it is an attack against the person and not the argument. You don’t even care about analyzing the argument. You have spent all your energy trying to pigeonhole khz into a political faction you despise so that you can automatically dismiss it all. You even celebrated once you decided you had him pegged…lol.
Discussions like this one about the story can happen as long as people leave the ideological insults out of it and it is very possible to do so as many posts have shown. But there are a few who can’t help but bring the left vs right war into it and then THAT becomes the topic instead of the original discussion.
OR….it could simply be his personal belief and he isn’t trying to spread an ideological platform’s talking points. He isn’t acting like an activist and starting petitions and going to the media. All he has done is pose the argument and provided evidence that he feels supports his view and warned that a backlash could result in lost customers.
Most here are speaking to those points but all you seem to care about is putting a label on him and somehow that label invalidates anything he says.
That works for politicians and talk show hosts but it is against the forum rules as it is exactly the type of flame war inducing speech that we don’t want and so won’t work here and needs to stop. If you can’t stick to the argument itself and feel you must try and discredit the person because of a label you think applies to them then please step away from the thread.
Jost Amman
Hunter
You're clawing at the glass on your way down... try better.
Well, yours is still up; my quote of that seems to have been tacitly approved by a moderator; I'll take my chances! Hmm, the racist bit doesn't truly fit thou, nothing closeted about my stances, and I'm largely aware of the extent of my racism - so maybe not that one, in that format. Unless you want to rephrase
Formatting:
"He is a radical right-wing ideologist, just disregard his arguments"
- Meganoth, 2026
(with a clean link to the original, of course: https://community.thefunpimps.com/goto/post?id=637437) )
The problem is: I didn't say that about you. And I won't give you permission to put words into my mouth. You yourself though are free to claim anything about yourself
HammerDano
Hunter
if the "duke" was based off of a Joel Osteen like Mega Church leader...would "we" still be this heated? Casino...church...both of those kinds of businesses are designed to part idiots from their money...neither is really associated with "goodness". This conversation has reminded me of the phrase "the soft bigotry of low expectations".
Jost Amman
Hunter
I am sincere, why wouldn't I? The fact you're assuming I cowardly say that because I'd be protected by the forum rules... well, maybe it's you projecting a little bit? But I'm all for an open discussion as long as I can defend myself.Since you know I can't do that, your "permission" is easily given and without consequences
And that is exactly the reason politics is not allowed here.
Jost Amman
Hunter
Again, your (and Meganot's) statement is borderline ridiculous.
So you're saying that if I see someone spray painting a storefront and I, to the least, attract attention on what he's doing, I'm the bad guy because I should have stayed silent?
Wow! I'm starting to wonder what kind of moderators we have here!
theFlu
Hunter
Ye, true, you didn't - that was admittedly quite performative on my part. I didn't expect you to want to do the edit for plethora of reasons ...
But it touches on half a dozen aspects of the whole motivations -discussion (I don't care what people call me, misattributing and misinterpreting everything etc etc.) ... it's less funny than I wanted, but hey, I tried 
And side note; I do respect the moderation style here.. plenty of places would shut this thread down; others would let it devolve .. at least some discussion can get aired this way. Tough line to draw.
As far as I know, spray painting a storefront is not allowed (Just like talking politics in this forum, by the way).
So, how did khz violate any laws? Your example is rather ridiculous.
Wow! I'm starting to wonder what kind of moderators we have here!
Feel free to vote for different ones
Jost Amman
Hunter
No. You got it backwards. Your description assumes that ideology means blindly following some self imposed views.
It's quite the opposite (at least for me), I dismiss his left-wing propaganda exactly because I believe racism is weaponized by left leaning people for some type of personal benefit, being it political gain (not this case) or even to feed a fake sense of self righteousness.
I believe the Duke stereotype is innocuous exactly because I don't see racism everywhere and I believe, as Einstein once said, that there's only ONE race: the human race. All the rest is BS. We need to protect individuals or groups, but not based on their skin color or ethnicity.
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I will. And THIS is REAL censorship.
Thanks for cutting the discussion down only because you can't admit that a racial discussion IS political.
Cheers
Roland
Community Moderator
Please do report any illegal spray painting. Please do not call people names like woke mob, lib, Marxist, etc. It’s against the rules. Being a good citizen in real life and helping to stop crime responsibly is fair game.Again, your (and Meganot's) statement is borderline ridiculous.
So you're saying that if I see someone spray painting a storefront and I, to the least, attract attention on what he's doing, I'm the bad guy because I should have stayed silent?
Wow! I'm starting to wonder what kind of moderators we have here!
Roland
Community Moderator
Yes it is censorship. The forum employs censorship rules vs certain topics and behavior. It allows for discussions to happen without devolving into flame wars. So now you have ME pegged as a Stalinist…lmao.
You seem intent on getting a flame war started or possibly to get this thread locked. Too bad you can’t simply discuss the argument, itself.
Who appointed you the defender of the forum from the woke mob anyway….?
Jost Amman
Hunter
So, is that what I have to do to cop out from violating the rules?
I'll just say:
"Now, I want to make something very, very clear. I do think the KHZ's opinion is racist. But I do not think this means KHZ is racist, on either the conscious or subconscious level. And I absolutely do not think that he intended for his post to be racist."
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But I did. You missed my replies?
And, no, I'm not trying to lock this thread or start a flame: that's just how you perceive my strong opinions on matters.
You want the Cliff-Notes version of my reply?
"There's no racism in the story because stereotypes have ALWAYS been used for years in many many media artworks and thinking otherwise is looking at the world through the race-glasses typical of the left propaganda."
Jost Amman
Hunter
I'm not defending the forum, I'm defending my point of view.
Can I do that or is that also against the rules?
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Sorry, I will stop here, but please don't attack me further or I'll be forced to defend my point of view.
Thanks
Rotor
Hunter
From you PoV ofcourse.