While hiding you can dig which gives you progress (maybe not enough now, but hopefully after the balancing of xp is finished). If that isn't what you mean, can you give an example of a survival game where simply hiding gives you progress?
I have been critical of A17 but I don't think it's been bad in survival terms, I mean what else can they add in this respect? We have hunger/thirst, disease and infections, temperature/dryness, and we can build the staples of basic survival needs, cooking shelter and light. Do some of these things still need tweaking? For sure, but the only improvement I can think of would be food spoilage (don't hurt me). I think it would be a better trade off to balance the stamina situation that making us eat so much every day unless we get a perk, go at those meat stacks sitting in chests, It'd also add a nice bonus for our electricity give us fridges and freezers.
Watch the videos for it in the store page, it's clearly showing the game's goal is to throw zombies at you while you struggle to put a base up for the horde night/gather supplies for the night. A16/15 was nothing about tower defense, or defending against zombies. You could walk right past them and say "Hey zoms how you all doin? No, we're not going to fight today, I want to roleplay a flower picker if that's alright with you all". You can't have tower defense and surviving a zombie horde with no action, no digging, no zombies doing damage to walls, it's not going to work out and can't have both. Nothing in advertisements for the game state a survival aspect like... idk The Long Dark or whatever it's called. The primary goal of the game was never "find food and water and stay out the cold and you're doing the game" -- I doubt the game was ever hailed as a "Survivor Man" show-game. Its surviving zombies that want to kill you, while not starving to death or getting a deadly infection.
Everything is progressed by focusing on killing zombies, the survival aspects are no longer at the forefront. You don't increase your survivability by focusing on farming anymore, until you have a good production going. You kill zombies so you can even plant things, and then once you can, actually farming is just slowing your progress, because with the new focus on clearing POI and looting, its more efficient to find all your food than produce your own. No other good survival game forces you to increase your abilities to survive by primarily doing anything other than working on surviving. That is survival-lite
I have watched the videos, the tower defence aspects is advertised as it always has been on steam, and how most people interpreted, individual players build a tower and defend it. It has never been accurately portrayed as having meant to resemble the actual tower defence genre.
Thats my point, stop being so damn dense. This is not advertised as a tower defence. It is advertised as having some aspects, in that you build a tower and defend it, and if you look at an entire MP map it kind of resembles a tower defense game. It's not one though, not in its current form, and it has never been advertised as on in the entire time it has been on steam.
Based on what evidence? And do I care? (spoiler - no). You said you watched the videos and still say it doesn't hype killing zombies. Well, you must have watched the wrong ones. I know a rather large number of people who quit the game because defending bases was pointless, killing zombies was a waste of time, and a decent amount of people I couldn't convince to play the game because of these reasons. You can't even spell defense correctly -- if we're going down that route. I'm posting because the game will die off if they revert back to how A16 and before played -- which was nothing of what the game was advertised to be. There was mining, farming, and gathering, but no tower defense, no zombie killing. There was, but zombies were dumb as all ♥♥♥♥ and did nothing to you nor your base, and if you dug a 1 block deep hole in the ground, well, you won the game.
I never said that, stop misrepresenting what I have said because you can;t make a proper argument against it. It just makes you look like an idiot who isn't worth listening too.
And yeah, you are describing defending a single tower. Are you confused on the aspect of how in a tower defence game a single building is a tower, regardless of its shape or height?
Actually it is Americans that can't spell defence correctly
How many more hours did you think A17 was going to give you? A17 is not an expansion pack that just adds content. Alot of the comments of boredom and tedium are coming from players with hundreds to thousands of hours under their belt. Here lies the negative part of participating in early access. (Getting too attached to features that are a work in progress)
Again, I pronounce and spell it how 90% of the world considers correct. Aluminium.
