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i really like the concept of the pallet modlet, since you would assume that some of those pallets would have something usable in them (other than breaking them down for raw resources like stone and iron), but i dont even know where to begin on balancing. As someone said above, like 4 pallets filled my inventory with end game items like mil armor and full vehicles.

I even tried to set all of the pallets to a count of 0,1 or 0,2 and although some were empty, most were still overpowered. Maybe i will try to put the lists aside and try to fill them with junk/trash mostly and a small chance of a single "nicer" item. maybe i can keep the lists you have and just add a few high probability junk items...since i "think" that the loot lists use weighted average for the probability (like if you have 4 items with 0.05 each...there is not an 80% chance of nothing...each basically changes to 25% since there are 4, it will keep rolling until it gives you the number of items you define)

More research is needed...or someone who know better how the loot stuff works now/before

 
Make one.
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So by dropping the modlet (the unzipped folder StanllionsDenHomeBrewing for example) into the folder it will automatically be used by the game instead of replacing or modifying files like we used to?

Thanks for the reply Guppy and to Stallion for updating the OP

 
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Yep, and this way, assuming the modded xml doesn't change, the mods will work after updating the game. Modders and mod users win. =)

 
It is fixable lol. Sorry didnt read your question correctly. In windows.xml search for windowscombine and play around with the pos
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its only the character window , all other are fine. do i play in your mod or in A17 to find the correct position ?

 
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Stallion,

I have a question about making modlets.

So if I wanted to adjust say a stack size of honey:

<append xpath="/items/item[@name=foodHoney']">

<property name="Class" value="what goes here?" />

<property name="Stacknumber" value="100" />

</append>

Kinda thing?

Also... what about adding entire items/recipes/buffs etc?

I'd like to mod the @#$% out of A17 and would prefer to do it in modlet rather than have to re-edit XML's every time the game updates.

Any help you could offer would be appreciated, and of course, I would offer those modlets to you.

I've got some pretty cool crops/food items/recipes/tools/weapons... and many other things than you might find interesting.

 
Stallion,
I have a question about making modlets.

So if I wanted to adjust say a stack size of honey:

<append xpath="/items/item[@name=foodHoney']">

<property name="Class" value="what goes here?" />

<property name="Stacknumber" value="100" />

</append>

Kinda thing?

Also... what about adding entire items/recipes/buffs etc?

I'd like to mod the @#$% out of A17 and would prefer to do it in modlet rather than have to re-edit XML's every time the game updates.

Any help you could offer would be appreciated, and of course, I would offer those modlets to you.

I've got some pretty cool crops/food items/recipes/tools/weapons... and many other things than you might find interesting.
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haha lol I am new to xpath to lol. Have you got discord. WIll see Sir Guppy on adding you once you have discord. ALso at the top of the mods section is xpath explanation guide I am sure is useful

 
Stallion,
I have a question about making modlets.

So if I wanted to adjust say a stack size of honey:

<append xpath="/items/item[@name=foodHoney']">

<property name="Class" value="what goes here?" />

<property name="Stacknumber" value="100" />

</append>

Kinda thing?

Also... what about adding entire items/recipes/buffs etc?

I'd like to mod the @#$% out of A17 and would prefer to do it in modlet rather than have to re-edit XML's every time the game updates.

Any help you could offer would be appreciated, and of course, I would offer those modlets to you.

I've got some pretty cool crops/food items/recipes/tools/weapons... and many other things than you might find interesting.
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Should just be this for honey.

Code: 
<set xpath="/items/item[@name='foodHoney']/property[@name='Stacknumber']/@value">newvaluehere</set>
Adding a new item would be like this.

Code: 
	<append xpath="/items">
	<!-- Adding the lockpick item -->
	<item name="toolLockpick">	
	<property name="Tags" value="knife,melee,light,tool,lockpick"/>
	<property name="CustomIcon" value="Lockpick" />
	<property name="DisplayType" value="meleeRepairTool"/>
	<property name="HoldType" value="36"/>
	<property name="Meshfile" value="Items/Weapons/Melee/Knives/boneShivPrefab"/>
	<property name="Material" value="Mmetal"/>
	<property name="RepairTools" value="resourceScrapIron"/>
	<property name="EconomicValue" value="5"/>
	<property name="EconomicBundleSize" value="1"/>
	<property name="SellableToTrader" value="false"/>
	<property name="DegradationBreaksAfter" value="false"/>
	<property name="SoundJammed" value="ItemNeedsRepair"/>
	<property name="SoundDestroy" value="wooddestroy1"/>
	<property class="Action0">
		<property name="Class" value="Repair"/>
		<property name="Delay" value="1"/> 
		<property name="Repair_amount" value="100"/>
		<property name="Upgrade_hit_offset" value="0"/>
		<property name="Sound_start" value="repair_block"/>
		<property name="Allowed_upgrade_items" value="toolLockpick"/>
		<property name="UsePowerAttackAnimation" value="false"/>
	</property>
	<property class="Action1"> 
		<property name="Class" value="Repair"/>
		<property name="Delay" value="1"/> 
		<property name="Repair_amount" value="100"/>
		<property name="Upgrade_hit_offset" value="0"/>
		<property name="Sound_start" value="repair_block"/>
		<property name="Allowed_upgrade_items" value="toolLockpick"/>
		<property name="UsePowerAttackAnimation" value="false"/>
	</property>
	<effect_group name="Base Effects">
		<passive_effect name="MaxRange" operation="base_set" value="2.4"/>
		<passive_effect name="BlockRange" operation="base_set" value="3"/>
		<passive_effect name="EntityDamage" operation="base_set" value="0"/> 
		<passive_effect name="BlockDamage" operation="base_set" value="26"/>
		<passive_effect name="AttacksPerMinute" operation="base_set" value="75"/> 
		<passive_effect name="DamageModifier" operation="perc_add" value="-.3" tags="stone"/>
		<passive_effect name="DamageModifier" operation="perc_add" value="-.8" tags="earth"/>
		<passive_effect name="DamageModifier" operation="perc_add" value="-.5" tags="metal"/>
		<passive_effect name="StaminaLoss" operation="base_set" value="14" tags="primary"/>
		<passive_effect name="DegradationMax" operation="base_set" value="70,200" tier="1,6"/>
		<passive_effect name="ModSlots" operation="base_set" value="0,5" tier="1,6"/>
		<passive_effect name="ModPowerBonus" operation="perc_add" value=".15" tags="EntityDamage,BlockDamage"/>
		<passive_effect name="ModPowerBonus" operation="base_add" value="200" tags="EconomicValue"/>
	</effect_group>
	<property name="Group" value="Tools/Traps,Basics"/>
	<property name="ActionSkillGroup" value="Construction Tools"/>
	<property name="CraftingSkillGroup" value="craftSkillTools"/>
	<property name="RepairExpMultiplier" value="5.5"/>
	</item>	
</append>
 
i really like the concept of the pallet modlet, since you would assume that some of those pallets would have something usable in them (other than breaking them down for raw resources like stone and iron), but i dont even know where to begin on balancing. As someone said above, like 4 pallets filled my inventory with end game items like mil armor and full vehicles.
I even tried to set all of the pallets to a count of 0,1 or 0,2 and although some were empty, most were still overpowered. Maybe i will try to put the lists aside and try to fill them with junk/trash mostly and a small chance of a single "nicer" item. maybe i can keep the lists you have and just add a few high probability junk items...since i "think" that the loot lists use weighted average for the probability (like if you have 4 items with 0.05 each...there is not an 80% chance of nothing...each basically changes to 25% since there are 4, it will keep rolling until it gives you the number of items you define)

More research is needed...or someone who know better how the loot stuff works now/before
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yeh I agree with you however i have lowered the counts to 1 or 2 items however it seems to be doubling the amount each time. it happens with other things to. I wanted at first like one or 2 maybe 3 random items appear but seems more are appearing in them, I will tinker with it some more hopefully i have succes

here is a snipet of the pallet code -

<lootgroup name="palletWhiteBagsBaseStash" count="2">

<item name="terrStone" count="1,15" prob="0.05" />

<item name="terrSidewalk" count="1,15" prob="0.05" />

<item name="terrDirt" count="1,15" prob="0.05" />

<item name="terrSand" count="1,15" prob="0.05" />

<item name="terrSandStone" count="1,15" prob="0.05" />

<item name="terrGravel" count="1,15" prob="0.05" />

<item name="terrAsphalt" count="1,15" prob="0.05" />

<item name="terrConcrete" count="1,15" prob="0.05" />

</lootgroup>

edit the count -

<lootgroup name="palletWhiteBagsBaseStash" count="1">

<item name="terrStone" count="1,15" prob="0.05" />

<item name="terrSidewalk" count="1,15" prob="0.05" />

<item name="terrDirt" count="1,15" prob="0.05" />

<item name="terrSand" count="1,15" prob="0.05" />

<item name="terrSandStone" count="1,15" prob="0.05" />

<item name="terrGravel" count="1,15" prob="0.05" />

<item name="terrAsphalt" count="1,15" prob="0.05" />

<item name="terrConcrete" count="1,15" prob="0.05" />

</lootgroup>

change all those counts.

then go to loot.xml and go to the lootcontainers 108 onwards and add this after the container that group is calling - prob=".5"

so each container should look like this -

<lootcontainer id="108" count="1" size="11,17" sound_open="UseActions/open_fridge" sound_close="UseActions/close_fridge" loot_quality_template="treasureTemplate">

<item group="palletWhiteBagsBaseStash" prob=".05" />

</lootcontainer>

hopefully that will reduce the amount that spawns in the pallets.

I will update also after some testing

 
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haha lol I am new to xpath to lol. Have you got discord. WIll see Sir Guppy on adding you once you have discord. ALso at the top of the mods section is xpath explanation guide I am sure is useful
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Thanks.

Once I've gotten a little sleep I'll have a look and see if I can't figure this all out.

Since making POI's in the editor atm is out of the question, may as well get modding A17.

Might even restart my server for people with anxiety.

[i know right? Let's play a survival game. No stress there.]

 
Thanks.
Once I've gotten a little sleep I'll have a look and see if I can't figure this all out.

Since making POI's in the editor atm is out of the question, may as well get modding A17.

Might even restart my server for people with anxiety.

[i know right? Let's play a survival game. No stress there.]
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I made a few new items, with recipes and added to loot, if you want to check them out here

 
Thanks.
Once I've gotten a little sleep I'll have a look and see if I can't figure this all out.

Since making POI's in the editor atm is out of the question, may as well get modding A17.

Might even restart my server for people with anxiety.

[i know right? Let's play a survival game. No stress there.]
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Ha xpath is a learning curve but it damn well is a great way to mod a game many benefits. Did ya get yaself a discord

 
Looks like the new patch is conflicting with the pallets mod. Id 108 is now used by the new ammo piles.
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I havent had a look at the new release yet lol sorry will get on it. Will make the lootcontainer a higher number to

 
UPDATE TIME

Updated Pallets Mod

Changes - changed lootcontainer id's to start at 200 - 217 to avoid any future id conflicts

Updated Home Brewery

Changes - changed lootcontainer id's to avoid future id conflicts

 
yeh I agree with you however i have lowered the counts to 1 or 2 items however it seems to be doubling the amount each time. it happens with other things to. I wanted at first like one or 2 maybe 3 random items appear but seems more are appearing in them, I will tinker with it some more hopefully i have succes
here is a snipet of the pallet code -

<lootgroup name="palletWhiteBagsBaseStash" count="2">

<item name="terrStone" count="1,15" prob="0.05" />

<item name="terrSidewalk" count="1,15" prob="0.05" />

<item name="terrDirt" count="1,15" prob="0.05" />

<item name="terrSand" count="1,15" prob="0.05" />

<item name="terrSandStone" count="1,15" prob="0.05" />

<item name="terrGravel" count="1,15" prob="0.05" />

<item name="terrAsphalt" count="1,15" prob="0.05" />

<item name="terrConcrete" count="1,15" prob="0.05" />

</lootgroup>

edit the count -

<lootgroup name="palletWhiteBagsBaseStash" count="1">

<item name="terrStone" count="1,15" prob="0.05" />

<item name="terrSidewalk" count="1,15" prob="0.05" />

<item name="terrDirt" count="1,15" prob="0.05" />

<item name="terrSand" count="1,15" prob="0.05" />

<item name="terrSandStone" count="1,15" prob="0.05" />

<item name="terrGravel" count="1,15" prob="0.05" />

<item name="terrAsphalt" count="1,15" prob="0.05" />

<item name="terrConcrete" count="1,15" prob="0.05" />

</lootgroup>

change all those counts.

then go to loot.xml and go to the lootcontainers 108 onwards and add this after the container that group is calling - prob=".5"

so each container should look like this -

<lootcontainer id="108" count="1" size="11,17" sound_open="UseActions/open_fridge" sound_close="UseActions/close_fridge" loot_quality_template="treasureTemplate">

<item group="palletWhiteBagsBaseStash" prob=".05" />

</lootcontainer>

hopefully that will reduce the amount that spawns in the pallets.

I will update also after some testing
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Tested your additional code. So far it seems to be working well. I have the loot container set to (0,2)

Added the prob="0.05". I'm not getting the rare items as easily. It seems with the prob="0.05". It reduces the loot rate by at least half.

 
Tested your additional code. So far it seems to be working well. I have the loot container set to (0,2)Added the prob="0.05". I'm not getting the rare items as easily. It seems with the prob="0.05". It reduces the loot rate by at least half.
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where did you put the 0,2 may i ask lol

ANd that is good progress will fix that and re upload

 
where did you put the 0,2 may i ask lol
ANd that is good progress will fix that and re upload
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i am not sure where he put it, but i was playing with putting it on all the lootcontainers and am playing with the 0,1 or 0,2 to give 0 or 1 or 2 passes through the loot list and then going in to all the loot groups and changing the count at the top of each of them to either 1 or 1,2

Code: 
	<lootcontainer id="200" count="0,1" size="8,9" sound_open="UseActions/open_fridge" sound_close="UseActions/close_fridge" loot_quality_template="treasureTemplate">
		<item group="palletWhiteBagsBaseStash" />
	</lootcontainer>
I may also pad the lists with mostly junk (like zombies used to drop) by adding this to the top of each group

Code: 
	<lootgroup name="palletWhiteBagsBaseStash" count="1">
		<item group="junk" prob="1"/>
		<item name="terrStone" count="1,15" prob="0.05" />
		<item name="terrSidewalk" count="1,15" prob="0.05" />
		<item name="terrDirt" count="1,15" prob="0.05" />
		<item name="terrSand" count="1,15" prob="0.05" />
		<item name="terrSandStone" count="1,15" prob="0.05" />
		<item name="terrGravel" count="1,15" prob="0.05" />
		<item name="terrAsphalt" count="1,15" prob="0.05" />
		<item name="terrConcrete" count="1,15" prob="0.05" />
	</lootgroup>
 
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