Locking Up On Motocycle

Update :

I've run OCCT (Temperature / CPU intensive) and Unigine_Heaven (CPU / Graphics intensive) stress tests and no problems were found.

I started a 1.4 game on a Windows 10 VM (VM is on an external Drive) which is running on the same Windows 11 Computer that I've had all the game freezes on.

Doing this to somewhat isolate Win 11 and my secondary SSD (game drive) in case there are issues with it (SSD).

Noticed something odd today.

If you look at this map, you can see my Motorcycle is marked on the left (Red Rectangle), but I'm currently riding my Motorcycle as highlighted on the right (Red Rectangle).

The "Motorcycle" location will not move as long as I'm on the Motorcycle, even though my actual position changes and updates.

Once I get off of the Motorcycle the "Motorcycle" tag location updates to my actual position.

I can consistently see this behavior and have tested it several times (need to go check the 1.0 game).

This probably explains why when I resume a frozen game (and Motorcycle is not lost) that I'm not on the Motorcycle and why it is some distance from me (previous path).

I'm wondering if this is related to the freezes I've experienced (assuming CPU is good) ?

Still testing, but I haven't had any solid freezes yet. My biggest issue is "Task Scheduler" keeps starting up Services that I've turned off.

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LostBoy said:
If you look at this map, you can see my Motorcycle is marked on the left (Red Rectangle), but I'm currently riding my Motorcycle as highlighted on the right (Red Rectangle).

The "Motorcycle" location will not move as long as I'm on the Motorcycle, even though my actual position changes and updates.

Once I get off of the Motorcycle the "Motorcycle" tag location updates to my actual position.
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This happens with bicycles too, its common, I assume, the game puts a marker on the map everytime you get off. This marker remains an amount of time, even when you get on again and ride away.

 
Added another stress test to the list - Intel IPDT.

All tests passed.

BTW - all games have / are being run with EAC disabled (have had issues with EOS noted elsewhere).

Base machine :

i7 13700KF

64 GB RAM

4070 TI

Windows 11 

VM (VMWare Workstation Pro 17.5) :

8 CPU's configured

22 GB RAM + 8 GB video emulation (30 GB allocated)

7200 RPM External Drive

Windows 10 Enterprise 2016 LTSB

Gameday 47 - frozeup lock (7D2D not responding) while on Motorcycle shortly after entering Desert.

VM was still running fine, and could ALT - TAB (within VM) to review Task Manager processes / services.

If the CPU is flaky, I would think the VM would have been taken out

I have another 1.4 game on a Linux Ubuntu 22.04 VM that I've got several gamedays on with basically the same configs as the Win 10 VM.

There are some odd graphical oddities (occasional colored lines) on this game when I have the Crossbow selected, so I don't know if this is even worth testing.

Since this is on a VM it's pretty much out of scope I would think, but here's the last four minutes of the log anyway (don't see anything crazy) :

2025-04-24T18:18:53 722.252 INF MinEventLogMessage: Drink
60sec delta: 0,current: 1392177,desired: 1431616
2025-04-24T18:18:55 724.462 INF [Backtrace] Updated Statistics
2025-04-24T18:18:55 724.523 INF Time: 10.88m FPS: 62.30 Heap: 2662.8MB Max: 2710.8MB Chunks: 200 CGO: 133 Ply: 1 Zom: 1 Ent: 4 (13) Items: 0 CO: 1 RSS: 5778.6MB
2025-04-24T18:18:56 724.659 INF [DECO] written 247609, in 54ms
2025-04-24T18:18:56 724.671 INF [DECO] write thread 10ms
2025-04-24T18:18:56 725.565 INF MinEventLogMessage: Drink
2025-04-24T18:18:58 727.357 INF MinEventLogMessage: Drink
2025-04-24T18:19:00 729.004 INF MinEventLogMessage: Drink
2025-04-24T18:19:02 730.811 INF MinEventLogMessage: Drink
2025-04-24T18:19:04 732.604 INF MinEventLogMessage: Drink
2025-04-24T18:19:05 734.460 INF MinEventLogMessage: Drink
2025-04-24T18:19:10 738.766 INF MinEventLogMessage: Drink
2025-04-24T18:19:11 740.557 INF MinEventLogMessage: Drink
2025-04-24T18:19:13 742.205 INF MinEventLogMessage: Drink
2025-04-24T18:19:15 743.790 INF Mixer IsFinished: True
 AudioSource is not playing: False
 IsPaused: False
 IsPlaying: True
2025-04-24T18:19:15 743.793 INF Stopped Exploration
2025-04-24T18:19:15 743.793 INF unloaded ClipSets on Exploration
2025-04-24T18:19:15 743.805 INF Notified SectionSelector that music stopped
2025-04-24T18:19:15 743.806 INF SectionType change from Exploration to None
2025-04-24T18:19:15 744.012 INF MinEventLogMessage: Drink
2025-04-24T18:19:17 745.758 INF MinEventLogMessage: Drink
2025-04-24T18:19:19 747.707 INF MinEventLogMessage: Drink
2025-04-24T18:19:25 754.541 INF Time: 11.38m FPS: 61.50 Heap: 2709.1MB Max: 2710.8MB Chunks: 200 CGO: 133 Ply: 1 Zom: 1 Ent: 4 (15) Items: 0 CO: 1 RSS: 5793.2MB
SDCSUtils::RemoveFPViewObstructingGearPolygons -> Removed 8945 obstructing polygons from body(Clone)
SDCSUtils::RemoveFPViewObstructingGearPolygons -> Removed 1908 obstructing polygons from cloth(Clone)
2025-04-24T18:19:55 784.287 INF VehicleManager saving 1 (1 + 0)
2025-04-24T18:19:55 784.287 INF 41211 VehicleManager write #0, id 2033, vehicleMotorcycle, (1109.8, 35.1, 888.9), chunk 69, 55
2025-04-24T18:19:55 784.288 INF DroneManager saving 0 (0 + 0)
2025-04-24T18:19:55 784.288 INF TurretTracker saving 0 (0 + 0)
2025-04-24T18:19:55 784.290 INF VehicleManager saved 946 bytes
2025-04-24T18:19:55 784.290 INF TurretTracker saved 9 bytes
2025-04-24T18:19:55 784.291 INF DroneManager saved 9 bytes
60sec delta: 0,current: 1392177,desired: 1427363
2025-04-24T18:19:55 784.478 INF [Backtrace] Updated Statistics
2025-04-24T18:19:55 784.556 INF Time: 11.88m FPS: 47.72 Heap: 2750.7MB Max: 2750.7MB Chunks: 200 CGO: 140 Ply: 1 Zom: 3 Ent: 7 (18) Items: 0 CO: 1 RSS: 5801.3MB
2025-04-24T18:19:56 784.699 INF [DECO] written 247607, in 30ms
2025-04-24T18:19:56 784.710 INF [DECO] write thread 10ms
2025-04-24T18:20:25 814.559 INF Time: 12.38m FPS: 59.89 Heap: 2793.5MB Max: 2793.5MB Chunks: 200 CGO: 134 Ply: 1 Zom: 3 Ent: 7 (18) Items: 0 CO: 1 RSS: 5820.0MB
SDCSUtils::RemoveFPViewObstructingGearPolygons -> Removed 8945 obstructing polygons from body(Clone)
SDCSUtils::RemoveFPViewObstructingGearPolygons -> Removed 1908 obstructing polygons from cloth(Clone)
60sec delta: 0,current: 1392177,desired: 1424070
2025-04-24T18:20:55 844.480 INF [Backtrace] Updated Statistics
2025-04-24T18:20:55 844.573 INF Time: 12.88m FPS: 59.10 Heap: 2584.1MB Max: 2793.5MB Chunks: 200 CGO: 139 Ply: 1 Zom: 4 Ent: 8 (18) Items: 0 CO: 1 RSS: 5842.3MB
SDCSUtils::RemoveFPViewObstructingGearPolygons -> Removed 8945 obstructing polygons from body(Clone)
SDCSUtils::RemoveFPViewObstructingGearPolygons -> Removed 1908 obstructing polygons from cloth(Clone)
2025-04-24T18:21:25 874.573 INF Time: 13.38m FPS: 58.52 Heap: 2623.5MB Max: 2793.5MB Chunks: 200 CGO: 131 Ply: 1 Zom: 1 Ent: 4 (18) Items: 0 CO: 1 RSS: 5851.8MB
2025-04-24T18:21:45 894.371 INF 47416+0 Origin Reposition (1184.0, 32.0, 944.0) to (1376.0, 32.0, 1104.0)
2025-04-24T18:21:55 904.287 INF VehicleManager saving 1 (1 + 0)
2025-04-24T18:21:55 904.288 INF 47973 VehicleManager write #0, id 2033, vehicleMotorcycle, (1459.6, 44.3, 1198.7), chunk 91, 74
2025-04-24T18:21:55 904.289 INF DroneManager saving 0 (0 + 0)
2025-04-24T18:21:55 904.289 INF TurretTracker saving 0 (0 + 0)
2025-04-24T18:21:55 904.290 INF VehicleManager saved 946 bytes
2025-04-24T18:21:55 904.290 INF DroneManager saved 9 bytes
2025-04-24T18:21:55 904.291 INF TurretTracker saved 9 bytes
60sec delta: 1509,current: 1393686,desired: 1411822
2025-04-24T18:21:55 904.481 INF [Backtrace] Updated Statistics
2025-04-24T18:21:55 904.575 INF Time: 13.88m FPS: 58.31 Heap: 2661.6MB Max: 2793.5MB Chunks: 200 CGO: 121 Ply: 1 Zom: 5 Ent: 7 (25) Items: 0 CO: 1 RSS: 5895.3MB
2025-04-24T18:22:08 917.587 INF 48720+0 Origin Reposition (1376.0, 32.0, 1104.0) to (1600.0, 32.0, 1216.0)
2025-04-24T18:22:25 934.591 INF Time: 14.38m FPS: 57.90 Heap: 2707.2MB Max: 2793.5MB Chunks: 200 CGO: 99 Ply: 1 Zom: 6 Ent: 7 (37) Items: 0 CO: 1 RSS: 5877.5MB
2025-04-24T18:22:26 935.552 INF SectionType change from None to Exploration
2025-04-24T18:22:26 935.552 INF Loading new config for Exploration...
2025-04-24T18:22:26 935.553 INF Played Exploration
2025-04-24T18:22:26 935.553 INF Fading in Exploration
2025-04-24T18:22:26 935.554 INF Notified SectionSelector that music played
2025-04-24T18:22:26 935.570 INF Loading new ClipSets for Exploration...
2025-04-24T18:22:27 935.922 INF Exploration loaded new config and clipsets
2025-04-24T18:22:29 938.561 INF fadeInCo complete on Exploration
2025-04-24T18:22:30 939.473 INF Entity animalChicken 16646 killed
2025-04-24T18:22:34 942.604 INF 50150+1 Origin Reposition (1600.0, 32.0, 1216.0) to (1840.0, 32.0, 1264.0)

 
LostBoy said:
Linux VM - just had this pop.

Everything still working fine, don't know what this is :
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Kind of need the whole log. 

Use Pastebin, don't just drop it into the message.  Instructions on how to do this are PINNED, and tell you to read it before posting.

 
You're running it in a VM? That will definitely cause issues. The VM also has a hard drive I see, which would also compound IO bottleneck 

 
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SylenThunder said:
Kind of need the whole log. 

Use Pastebin, don't just drop it into the message.  Instructions on how to do this are PINNED, and tell you to read it before posting.
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I've used Pastebin once, and have no idea what my credentials / password for it are anymore - not really motivated to create another account.

Jugginator said:
You're running it in a VM? That will definitely cause issues. The VM also has a hard drive I see, which would also compound IO bottleneck 
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Interestingly, once the game / textures are all loaded / compiled, I'm not really seeing any Disk IO on the Linux VM.

Now the Windows VM is another story, entirely too many process running that intermittently hit the HD, sometimes pretty hard.

These last two instances have been run on VM's as on my secondary SSD the game has the issue I've been tracking.

At this point, this is all for my testing to isolate possible issues, doubt there will be another update to 1.x before 2.0 comes out.

So, linux VM, day 51 - game freeze / lockup while on Motorcycle (VM still running fine).

If it really is the CPU, there's no way I can prove it at this point for an RMA as it happens so infrequently and it passes all the stress tests I've thrown at it.

Fair amount of hardware has been ruled out, only real option remaining would be to try this on my Laptop, which I don't really want to do   .   .   .  

 
LostBoy said:
I've used Pastebin once, and have no idea what my credentials / password for it are anymore - not really motivated to create another account.
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You don't need an account. You can post as a guest and share the link. I do it all the time when people make a wall of text here so I don't have them on my account history.

 
LostBoy said:
Interestingly, once the game / textures are all loaded / compiled, I'm not really seeing any Disk IO on the Linux VM.
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Not so sure if that's a good sign. Unless nobody is connected or it's just one player afk, there should be near constant data being written/read, especially when loading chunks as you're driving around. In fact that's what is causing your stuttering and freezing while riding a vehicle. What is going on is your player is moving faster than the server can load/unload chunks for you, usually it's system storage speed but sometimes it could be cpu or ram, which I don't think the latter is the case for you, but it could be seeing as it's running in a VM. VMs always have a natural bottleneck in data transport.

 
Well, here we are on 2.x and on Day 41 I just had a lockup :(

This time I was not on my Motorcycle (though it was nearby), I was inside a house and had just triggered a floor collapse when it locked up.

I have played this version with multiple 4 - 8 hour sessions with no problems, but this session I was just in about 30 minutes plus or minus.

This is back on my base machine (not running in VM this time), and I just re-ran the Intel Processor Diagnostic tool and passed everything (again) with no issues.

Logs are the same, so not bothering with them.



Running out of things to try.

Next item is going to be fairly involved and I'm not sure if it will even report anything useful - requires some research / testing.
 
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