Tower defense and horde base building is part of the game and there are probably many players who like that part. Options to turn it off are absolutely ok, but throwing it out? Naah.
I proposed special type zombies a few times a year ago and neither TFP nor many "realism++" players were all too keen on this idea. So, you have my support for that part of your idea but it is only slightly more likely than TFP throwing out the horde night.
Hm, maybe I haven't explained my idea pretty well then.
I haven't said to completely throw out horde base building, I said I'm opposed to having timer ticking in the background which will send zombies your address so they can visit you for a cup of tea.
Basically, I would rather have really badass, completely silent(all atmospheric music/effects cuts off 1-2h after sunrise) atmosphere on day 7, and then from noon all hell breaks loose. You would have scarier atmosphere, no matter where you are, you wouldn't be able to skip it as it would affect all zombies ingame. If you're unlucky, you would see some really rare zombie(I thought Behemoth would fill this in but alas) running toward you etc etc. It's not that it would completely get rid of the horde/tower defense, it would just mean that you don't get to choose where you fight or when as there would be constant threat for that day, not just from dusk till dawn on day 7. If you're good in stealth and don't want to fight, with or without stealth skills you could try to avoid those scarier zombies, but with them having better detection.. If I goof in trying to lose them while running to my base, and they follow.. Eh, you get the picture what I'm trying to say.
For me, atmosphere is something that decides if the game is good or not(not trying to insult TFP here even though I have different opinion of some mechanics). If you can make that atmosphere scarier, especially in game with zombies, that's a win in my book. Add to that weather and biome effects, thick fog where you can't see if it's a zombie or a bandit or maybe some friendly player/NPC, food/hunger mechanic, and it's something that could easily be called the best zombie survival game.
Either way, not trying to beat the dead horse here, nor to push my idea further if BM is to stay. I remember when BM wasn't a thing and was introduced in A8 iirc, and with higher spawn numbers + roaming hoardes around, it was awesome, to me that is. Others may disagree, and that's their right.
Nowadays it's only UMA models(if they're still around that is) to have some different models for zombies, and just option to offset the BM time, maybe few more options to achieve this but that's it. It's very limited as far as I'm aware(excuse me if I'm wrong as I may be out of the loop in what's been said in dev thread).
So my point is that maybe instead of focusing purely on how to stop players avoiding BM horde, or having a headache to balance reward/punishment system in regards to what BM actually should be for players, maybe expand that a bit in some other ways. Even those demanding loot bags or some rare drops per finished BM horde would then feel the satisfaction of just surviving the 7th*n day when all hell breaks loose globally, not only locally in certain time of day.
I believe we have this option now.
Ok, I'm intrigued, how/when/where? Mod I presume or some other option like BM offset?
What about bugs that inactivate beds, LCB's and what have you.
