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Developer Discussions: Alpha 17

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Trope i hate the most about shotguns in video games is almost all of them make the range crap, and the pellets become cotton balls 10 feet away. Sawed off though, that could use some work.
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I don't know much about guns but the simple physics of shotgun spread means that the range of buckshot _is_ actually crap... the pellet can't damage something it doesn't hit.

The range of shotguns is probably nerfed in most games because the pvp maps aren't nearly as large as a real theater of operations. If enough games do this then it becomes the standard way of doing things.

There's also the problem of calculations per frame. Do you treat each pellet as a separate entity and have to calculate 27 physics objects per shot or do you cheat and nerf the damage over distance. Most programmers would choose the latter, it's far faster to calculate.

 
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I don't know much about guns but the simple physics of shotgun spread means that the range of buckshot _is_ actually crap... the pellet can't damage something it doesn't hit.

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Yeah but games make it seem much worse, which isn't the case. Typically shotguns (not using slugs) are effective to almost 200 feet, so about 60 yards.

 
So i’m coming in late on the discussion but I really just stopped checking on development progress regularly since I don’t thunk this game will ever get finished.

...and that sentiment is well deserved after reading the original post. “Overhaul” the buff system, “Overhaul” the weapon system, “Overhaul”...

Overhaul? How about “finish” ANYTHING you EVER start? How many times have these things been overhauled already? Weapons, at least 3 times since A8 for example.

Great idea: how about you get a handle on the Attention Deficit Disorder and get the game running at a decent frame rate, stop stuff from randomly disappearing, crashes, lockups, add some content, and leave the major systems design alone?

 
So i’m coming in late on the discussion but I really just stopped checking on development progress regularly since I don’t thunk this game will ever get finished. ...and that sentiment is well deserved after reading the original post. “Overhaul” the buff system, “Overhaul” the weapon system, “Overhaul”...

Overhaul? How about “finish” ANYTHING you EVER start? How many times have these things been overhauled already? Weapons, at least 3 times since A8 for example.

Great idea: how about you get a handle on the Attention Deficit Disorder and get the game running at a decent frame rate, stop stuff from randomly disappearing, crashes, lockups, add some content, and leave the major systems design alone?
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Did you ever think that maybe doing an "overhaul" to existing system WOULD improve the games ability to run? And unless you don't know "Items" and "Buffs" are a vast part of the games system and affect large parts of the game itself.

You need to ask yourself "what does OVERHAUL mean?".

So yeah, I hope they continue to OVERHAUL systems that haven't been touched in a long ass time so they run better with all the other systems in the game so we get a much smoother experience AND frame rate. OVERHAUL!!!! *wink* *wink* *nod* *nod* ... overhaul

 
So i’m coming in late on the discussion but I really just stopped checking on development progress regularly since I don’t thunk this game will ever get finished. ...and that sentiment is well deserved after reading the original post. “Overhaul” the buff system, “Overhaul” the weapon system, “Overhaul”...

Overhaul? How about “finish” ANYTHING you EVER start? How many times have these things been overhauled already? Weapons, at least 3 times since A8 for example.

Great idea: how about you get a handle on the Attention Deficit Disorder and get the game running at a decent frame rate, stop stuff from randomly disappearing, crashes, lockups, add some content, and leave the major systems design alone?
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So i’m coming in late on the discussion but I really just stopped checking on development progress regularly since I don’t thunk this game will ever get finished. ...and that sentiment is well deserved after reading the original post. “Overhaul” the buff system, “Overhaul” the weapon system, “Overhaul”...

Overhaul? How about “finish” ANYTHING you EVER start? How many times have these things been overhauled already? Weapons, at least 3 times since A8 for example.

Great idea: how about you get a handle on the Attention Deficit Disorder and get the game running at a decent frame rate, stop stuff from randomly disappearing, crashes, lockups, add some content, and leave the major systems design alone?
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Happy new year to you, too. Game is in developement, so what you talk about is all part of developement proccess, you obviously do not understand that. Don`t underestimate something you don`t understand.

 
that is hilarious... i always kindda wondered what your avatar was as well... now I know :) btw... I love bread too... eat it with every meal
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Unfortunately, he contains gluten, so I may never have a piece of Royal Deluxe. :/

 
It is theoretically possible to transfer a character to a new map/server but it's a huge can of worms because serves have different settings and mods.
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An interesting thing you can do if you have a hacker on your server.

1. Get his Steam ID.

2. kick/ban him.

3. backup your player profile for your character. and make a copy of the hackers.

4. renamed the two hacker player files to your steamID

5. log in and you are now your character with all the hackers stuff.

Give stuff back to the players :)

 
Congrats on making it to Steam's top selling games in 2017
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you read it wrong... the nay-sayers come in and tell us that 7dtd is going down the drain and people are leaving by the thousands because nothing is being fixed or added.

personally i am packing my bags before we hit that iceberg.

seriously tho, yep Irish, i was looking at all the figures yesterday and am impressed that we have done as good as we have... my hat is off to the fun pimps and thanking all the loyal players of this community... may 2018 prove just as productive. :)

 
you read it wrong... the nay-sayers come in and tell us that 7dtd is going down the drain and people are leaving by the thousands because nothing is being fixed or added.
personally i am packing my bags before we hit that iceberg.

seriously tho, yep Irish, i was looking at all the figures yesterday and am impressed that we have done as good as we have... my hat is off to the fun pimps and thanking all the loyal players of this community... may 2018 prove just as productive. :)
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We've seen so many "the game is ruined" and "doomed" because the developers just don't know what they're doing posts it's almost funny. The good part is the Pimps have "ruined" it so well that it is one of the best games out there. I can't wait to see what they've developed for A17.

Thanks, Fun Pumps! And Happy New Year everyone!

 
Yeh "doooomed"... haha

Can we get a super rare chance to find/harvest a magic mushroom. So yee can either sell it fer a truck load or ya take it and it starts an random event. Like ya black out and when ya wake up ur are stuck in a room full of cheerleaders in a town you have never been to before or some other crazy ♥♥♥♥! Just for a mid-late game laugh

 
We've seen so many "the game is ruined" and "doomed" because the developers just don't know what they're doing posts it's almost funny. The good part is the Pimps have "ruined" it so well that it is one of the best games out there. I can't wait to see what they've developed for A17.
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We're working hard on ruining the game even more. Promise! =P

Can we get a super rare chance to find/harvest a magic mushroom. So yee can either sell it fer a truck load or ya take it and it starts an random event. Like ya black out and when ya wake up ur are stuck in a room full of cheerleaders in a town you have never been to before or some other crazy ♥♥♥♥! Just for a mid-late game laugh
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I take it you speak from experience? =P

Still - the new status effects system is a lot more powerful so more fun stuff can be tied to a "mushroom" item.

For instance, the "drunk" buff - in it's completely unfinished state - initiates a screen effect with a desired intensity. Like the screen blurring more and more as you get drunk as a skunk.

How and when that happens - matter of implementation. But the framework for it exists now. Just a bit of XML to trigger the effect.

This whole "overhaul" thing is about interaction... between features. Sounds weird and boring but that's how you get gameplay and choices.

 
So i’m coming in late on the discussion but I really just stopped checking on development progress regularly since I don’t thunk this game will ever get finished. ...and that sentiment is well deserved after reading the original post. “Overhaul” the buff system, “Overhaul” the weapon system, “Overhaul”...

Overhaul? How about “finish” ANYTHING you EVER start? How many times have these things been overhauled already? Weapons, at least 3 times since A8 for example.

Great idea: how about you get a handle on the Attention Deficit Disorder and get the game running at a decent frame rate, stop stuff from randomly disappearing, crashes, lockups, add some content, and leave the major systems design alone?
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Free advice. Take it or not, up to you....

Never play another Alpha game. It's not for you.

 
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