PC Developer Discussions: Alpha 17

[JaxTeller718]

Err, what? My impression is that few people here want a safe area, and they are very vocal about threats to their modus operandi. Which, mind you, is a perfectly reasonable reaction, but I don't see a majority of people around here wanting that.

I was referring to his poll that he keeps bringing up. Which proves the point even further. We have no real numbers as to who wants what. It is ALL opinion. In the end the Devs make the game they want. Regardless of how loud 3 or 4 are shouting about what they want and why they would uninstall forever.

Royal is trying to say the majority want it safe. But all he has is the numbers from a very small turn out for a poll.

 

[Gnomaana]

I was referring to his poll that he keeps bringing up. Which proves the point even further. We have no real numbers as to who wants what. It is ALL opinion. In the end the Devs make the game they want. Regardless of how loud 3 or 4 are shouting about what they want and why they would uninstall forever.
Royal is trying to say the majority want it safe. But all he has is the numbers from a very small turn out for a poll.

A poll which, unless the totals changed drastically since I looked, doesn't even support his position to begin with. There were more votes for "No safe places" than any other choice.

 

[Darkfoxx117]

And it works, got my first negative reputation for that post

because it was a ridiculous comment IMO

 

[Roland]

Lol...the poll he brought up shows the majority want zombies to reach them anywhere. You guys are funny. The poll supports Jax but now Jax has already called the poll meaningless.

Oopsies....

 

[graphite]

Now we have had a riot can we sing songs round the campfire together ?

I say campfire but is really this inferno of a thread HOT TOPIC of maybe could be not guaranteed coming if they dont take them out and implement something else component

 

[Darkfoxx117]

Coughs video coughs

Calm the mad house he has the power.

 

[Tilleen]

The bloodmoon hordes dig. This is the result of two bloodmoons:

So it's not 100%.

I have had things like this happen as well, I came to the conclusion that it was caused by us damaging the ground when we missed the zombies and once there is a hole the zombies will probably make it worse, also they do random swings which will probably sometimes hit the ground.

 

[Royal Deluxe]

Royal is trying to say the majority want it safe.

You are known for beeing a Math genius in your family ?

All i do is taking the 30% serious enough, even if my own experience say 100%.

30% is not the majority, but enough to feel it.

 

[graphite]

Lol...the poll he brought up shows the majority want zombies to reach them anywhere. You guys are funny. The poll supports Jax but now Jax has already called the poll meaningless.
Oopsies....

Dont worry someone will cook the stats in the inferno mean mode median divide and renormalise and multiply by 0.000000000001

 

[Aurelius]

RD, I'm going to punch you in the waffle hole.

-A

 

[Roland]

This is a tempest in a teacup. Let the pimps implement what they plan before getting too bothered. In my experience they do things in a fair way with the means to mod away the parts you don’t like. (exhibit one: spam crafting “removal”)

If the most they ever do is add back in a digging ability but keep it commented out I will be a happy underground dweller regardless of how they make vanilla. I’ll be playing Swiss cheese myself

 

[Tilleen]

It’s indicative of a broken system. Silly to play that way? Yes. A silly design flaw that should just be ignored? I hope not.

I would not expect that digging zombies would be in the first couple of groups of leveled zombies anyway. So it would still be a strategy early on, and that seems alright to me.

 

[Doombringer101]

This is a tempest in a teacup. Let the pimps implement what they plan before getting too bothered. In my experience they do things in a fair way with the means to mod away the parts you don’t like.
If the most they ever do is add back in a digging ability but keep it commented out I will be a happy underground dweller regardless of how they make vanilla. I’ll be playing Swiss cheese myself

^ This

 

[Royal Deluxe]

RD, I'm going to punch you in the waffle hole.
-A

Sorry aurelius, giphy need really long to bake that gif, maybe it flashes a bit to much

 

[Tilleen]

This is a tempest in a teacup. Let the pimps implement what they plan before getting too bothered. In my experience they do things in a fair way with the means to mod away the parts you don’t like.
If the most they ever do is add back in a digging ability but keep it commented out I will be a happy underground dweller regardless of how they make vanilla. I’ll be playing Swiss cheese myself

I agree. I would like the capability, probably in vanilla but when it comes down to it I will play whatever they come up with. I would like the SI to work the way I want because it would seem more natural to me, but if it does not then I will build within the rules that I have been given. Same with water!

 

[sillls]

For that reason alone (and some others, like zombies getting stuck in fences because they can't hit them), zombies should attack downwards like they used to in the very first alphas.

This.

 

[Royal Deluxe]

ahh done here aurelius

Spoiler

 

[graphite]

This is a tempest in a teacup. Let the pimps implement what they plan before getting too bothered. In my experience they do things in a fair way with the means to mod away the parts you don’t like. (exhibit one: spam crafting “removal”)
If the most they ever do is add back in a digging ability but keep it commented out I will be a happy underground dweller regardless of how they make vanilla. I’ll be playing Swiss cheese myself

I agree

But i think it is a case for some people of alpha stage and if you mod you cant take part in bug reports of the standard game.

 

[Pille]

I have had things like this happen as well, I came to the conclusion that it was caused by us damaging the ground when we missed the zombies and once there is a hole the zombies will probably make it worse, also they do random swings which will probably sometimes hit the ground.

Sometimes the zombies kill each other (due to the random swings). So cop explosions also matter. ^^

 

[Tilleen]

Psuedocode it into simple rulesets
Sounds interesting calculating SI of an area instead of a single metre squared column.

I am interested how you get each connecting area to sync up.

I think it would be a bit like this:

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All blocks have a flag saying "I am structurally sound (SS)"

If a block is removed: Add block above, North, South, East and West to check list. # could be just location pointer.

For all in check list.

if block is air : next. # Air is never SS

if block is water : goto other checks. # Water is never SS unless there are boats that are build able and we have a whole other problem.

is block below me SS, I am SS, go to end loop.

is block beside me and below it SS, I am SS (check for all four directions).

I am not SS.

Do normal FunPimps checks for SI.

end of loop.

Have I changed state, if so Add block above, North, South, East and West to check list.

Move to next block in the check list.

==============================

Depends a lot of data structure efficiency.

I think this will work. It will obviously be more intensive then the current system. It probably has holes in I am not aware of, situations it will not work. I have other ideas that would make the extra load less of a problem, but would require a lot of work on multi-server configuration.