Royal Deluxe
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Lets hope the TFP team perceived the worries some of us have.
PC Developer Discussions: Alpha 17
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Jackelmyer
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I'm pretty sure Roland might... MIGHT... Have indicated that MM said they were focusing on things to go gold. And I don't think underground dangers are part of that.
Though... After gold... That's going to be an even harder sell. And trying to sell "well, turn off the main game feature, zombies." Isn't gonna fly especially after going gold.
Really doubt this is even worth worrying about and those who wanna piss and moan for underground dangers are gonna have to just deal with it. At least for a long while.
In the mean time... BANDITS AND NPCS! WOO! Can't wait to see those come!
JaxTeller718
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Mark my words Jackel, the SECOND we get our hands on Bandits the forums will be a BLAZE with how much people hate them. Not many people play with bandits in their current form because they aren't finished so hopefully that changes, but unless you make bandits super rare my experience with people who have tried it has basically been that getting shot with an arrow or bullet from ranged causes a LOT of rage.
If you picture the zombies now and how one that goes buggy causes so much frustration, picture that same frustration but with a bandit with AI who can shoot at you and your base from a distance. I can't wait for bandits and NPC as well, but it may be time to have a discussion about what people are expecting from them. If they can throw explosives or target your loot containers I guarantee a wave of complaints.
JaxTeller718
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Haha look up, I started that little argument for you....
YW
Jackelmyer
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Yep. Though I really hope A17 truly is AI and NPC release. So TFP has a baseline final AI logic to start tuning right away.
As question of motivation, what does motivate Zombies in 7D2D? It is normally the hunger for brains. (Which means that if they actually eat your brains you will not turn in to a Zombie, because you normally kill them by a shot to the head, generally traditional zombies not the modern stuff which is zombie like but not zombies).
Jackelmyer
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Ironically, if they're that smart, they won't have to ruin the world with stupid tunnels that wreck SI and they'll be able to reach my hatches and doors..
If there as smart as you suggest.
Aldranon
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Its like building a narrow fort 3 meters wide, flush with the ground, around the trader zone now. if you complete a 10 meter deep trench around the trader, you have an invincible enclosed perch with all your stuff.
Perfect safety (and boredom). I made them in two games. Boredom then death from being reckless. Every time!
Probably one reason TFP want the traders to be destructible. Rightly so.
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Jackelmyer
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So you seem to be still involved in the game. What'd you do after that?Its like building a narrow fort 3 meters wide, flush with the ground, around the trader zone now. if you complete a 10 meter deep trench around the trader to can have an invincible enclosed perch with all your stuff.
Perfect safety (and boredom). I made them in two games. Boredom then death from being reckless. Every time!
SchlecktWulf
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I know I'm a little late to this party, but did A17 already drop? Just wondering if I'm reading my load screen right because it says "1.0.17.1"at the bottom now, btw playing on Xbox one.
I know I'm a little late to this party, but did A17 already drop? Just wondering if I'm reading my load screen right because it says "1.0.17.1"at the bottom now, btw playing on Xbox one.
Aldranon
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Skyscraper Nerd poling.
Loot gathering. My flawless SMG (best gun in game for various reasons and +1800 damage a clip) always needs stuff.
I try to connect adjoining skyscrapers, by making a perch lower down with hay bales and basically a diving board up near the roof of the other. Base jump!
I end up destroying every car I can find as brass is always in short supply.
I look for more traders on my minibike to buy 9mm's and SMG parts.
But eventually, the lack of plot gets to me and I take more risks until, like my current game I have to stay at bedrock and defend my 4 containment chambers (look up "Extruder" I made on the forum). There I will die, trying to defend the world from the interdimensional invaders (my plot)
Here's a pic of a 3x3 pit zombie extruder. Its more efficient than a 5x5 pit extruder. You just stand near that window, occasionally hit them with your spiked club and collect loot as they literally ooze out!
https://7daystodie.com/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=22410&d=1503639555
...and in 'operation'
https://7daystodie.com/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=22412&d=1503639600
Make sure you nail the Z-cops with your SMG, they are about the only thing that does notable damage.
(Kneel down, look up and shoot them in the head using short, controlled bursts)
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Roland
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Your version numbers for Xbox do not match up with the PC alpha versions. That 0.17 is just a coincidence.
PC is possibly going to get A16.4 stable sometime soon and it will probably be months before A17 comes to PC and then months after that before select A17 features come to XBox. Think summer of next year for A17 features coming to console....if you want to be optimistic.
Roland
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That's not irony at all.
What would be ironic is if they were that smart but they dug weird tunnels anyway because they knew it would piss you off...
But then that brings up an interesting point. So if zombies could find your hatches and tunnels because of reasons (smell, zombie sense, sounds) and bashed those in and then just followed your own tunnels down instead of digging new ones then you'd be fine with zombie threats underground? Is it pretty much just the random tunneling you want to avoid?
SchlecktWulf
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That's what I thought, it was just weird to see it when I jumped onYour version numbers for Xbox do not match up with the PC alpha versions. That 0.17 is just a coincidence.
PC is possibly going to get A16.4 stable sometime soon and it will probably be months before A17 comes to PC and then months after that before select A17 features come to XBox. Think summer of next year for A17 features coming to console....if you want to be optimistic.
Phoenixshade35
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I have been reading the forum a lot over the last few days, reading a lot of peoples opinions about what to do with overall threats and overall safety, I do have my own thoughts and I was wondering what everyone else think, some of these I am sure I read in the forums and agree with but here we go.
1.Underground - Should there be digging zombies, I personally would not mind there being a zombie late game that can attack down, would lived things up a bit, on a flip note if we did have air quality and such with electricity we could add in an air filtration system, i mean we have vents and air conditioners in the game, why not make them usable for those that want to live underground or in a mountain, win win in my opinion.
2. Hazards - This ties in to the underground, what if while digging underground we sometimes end up hitting a methane pocket or a gas node that leaks a gas into out "Mine", it would make that air filtration system seem more affective for large mining builds, as far as the discussion on air, what if someone underground is say 15 blocks away from their hatch to the underground, we could have where breathing is becoming hard and stamina regeneration is getting slower till we hit hard breath stage 3 and begin losing hp due to lack of oxygen.
3. Safe Zones - Having little areas we can rent and be safe at sounds like a great idea, and if we are hiding from horde night in a safe zone then maybe the fee for that night is not dukes but aiding in repelling the zombie attack? It would make nomad runs seem amazing. There could also be bunkers like in terminator 3 with shyan mountain, very tough to get through and even tougher to find.
4. Vehicles - All I can say is keep them coming, and will there be times where zombies will attack the minibike and hog simply from using it so it has a heat area generated that slowly goes away as the bike is not in use, just my two cents on that one.
5. Animals - Is there any thoughts on more animals in the environment, like even just birds that have not been turned on the streets we can shoot for some feathers and meat?
6. Storage - Can we get some more storage container options in the future, what we got now is good but I am hoping for more to store and organize in down the road.
7. New Zombie Idea's - Clowns, Goths, Nerds, Revived Raider, Motorcycle Cop (Skinny Varient), Scientist, Just some Ideas.
8. New Block Designs or Paints - Is there any new ones in the works? For Paint I really want blood smears and stains and even bloody hand prints, could have some fun with those.
That is all I have on my table right now, I really wanna hear some opinions so Roland, Gazz, Madmole and even Royal Deluxe and Jaxteller, what do you guys think of some or all of these?
1.Underground - Should there be digging zombies, I personally would not mind there being a zombie late game that can attack down, would lived things up a bit, on a flip note if we did have air quality and such with electricity we could add in an air filtration system, i mean we have vents and air conditioners in the game, why not make them usable for those that want to live underground or in a mountain, win win in my opinion.
2. Hazards - This ties in to the underground, what if while digging underground we sometimes end up hitting a methane pocket or a gas node that leaks a gas into out "Mine", it would make that air filtration system seem more affective for large mining builds, as far as the discussion on air, what if someone underground is say 15 blocks away from their hatch to the underground, we could have where breathing is becoming hard and stamina regeneration is getting slower till we hit hard breath stage 3 and begin losing hp due to lack of oxygen.
3. Safe Zones - Having little areas we can rent and be safe at sounds like a great idea, and if we are hiding from horde night in a safe zone then maybe the fee for that night is not dukes but aiding in repelling the zombie attack? It would make nomad runs seem amazing. There could also be bunkers like in terminator 3 with shyan mountain, very tough to get through and even tougher to find.
4. Vehicles - All I can say is keep them coming, and will there be times where zombies will attack the minibike and hog simply from using it so it has a heat area generated that slowly goes away as the bike is not in use, just my two cents on that one.
5. Animals - Is there any thoughts on more animals in the environment, like even just birds that have not been turned on the streets we can shoot for some feathers and meat?
6. Storage - Can we get some more storage container options in the future, what we got now is good but I am hoping for more to store and organize in down the road.
7. New Zombie Idea's - Clowns, Goths, Nerds, Revived Raider, Motorcycle Cop (Skinny Varient), Scientist, Just some Ideas.
8. New Block Designs or Paints - Is there any new ones in the works? For Paint I really want blood smears and stains and even bloody hand prints, could have some fun with those.
That is all I have on my table right now, I really wanna hear some opinions so Roland, Gazz, Madmole and even Royal Deluxe and Jaxteller, what do you guys think of some or all of these?
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