PC Developer Discussions: Alpha 17
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wolffblood
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Makes sense for the most part. I wonder just how far away you would have to be for the zombies to then not be able to even try to jump. If it was close enough to jump, but didn't make the jump, would it still be considered "unreachable"? Or what if you made it close enough to that ramp, put up Iron Bars, they try to jump to you, but of course hit the bars. I'd say that is "unreachable", but does the pathing think so? Because if the path is there, I assume that the zombies think it is then reachable, but just needs to destroy the bars, but they can't destroy the bars, because they are mid jump. I actually want to know these things so I don't build things like that, lol. I enjoy the terror of BMs and the chaos that comes with knowing I'm not 100% safe or exploiting the pathing.example: build a cheezy pole with a platform on it and then build a ramp/steps or other means to force zeds to blindly follow the path up. they ignored the pole you are standing on.
now stupid zombie after a couple fails will think that maybe its time to bring down the pole if you cant get him the other way.
bout as simple as i can explain it, i hope it is enough.
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But stamina regeneration is thirst, max stamina is hunger? Was that just a mix-up of systems?
Hek Harris
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Nope, still broken (made a quick test in Navezgane, but I guess it's the same thing in RWG). Hope it will be fixed, because it's the only way to have a hard start without messing with xml...
HungryZombie
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It's cool, I wasn't trying to be dismissive. Some people just have anxiety over the term "mod" and don't realize how easy some if it really is. Do you know about modlets too? You don't have to edit anything, just drop a folder you download inside the mods folder. Many people already made the mods. No editing involved.
Sure, I'd never argue against options like that but to make a game for everyone is impossible and there are only so many options you can have before the options screen becomes a game in of itself. I do not play a large amount of games so could just be my experience but I haven't seen games with pages of options before and there has to be a reason for it I'd think. Like in Fallout 4 I could not turn off Deathclaws because I didn't like them.
Gareee
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I've yet to see a vehicle part other than minibikes or bicycles in found loot, so IMHO I don't think thats an issue. A day one or two bicycle makes sense because then you can do risky trader quests that you couldn't normally do because of the required distance travelled.
From watching our progress, (without forced rushing) the minibike took 22 days to get to, the motorcycle another 10, the 4x4 another 10 or so, and the gyrocopter another 28. It might be better to find bike parts in garages from the start, and then estimate experience unlocks for all the other vehicles about 15 days apart so you don't unlock one and then unlock the next too soon. That would stretch the time between vehicle unlocks, and bump up the gyro by about 5 days. (We unlocked it about day 72.)
I'd also like to see the tougher zombies from the first exp return, BUT not have the mp gamestage multiplier so high that it dumps the later irradiated and feral zombies so early in the game. We were seeing greenies and ferals on day 14 with 4 players, (which was way too early for them) so we had to drop the difficulty to level 2 to compensate for that, but then on day 70 we were still not seeing many day runners or a challenge.
Ideally for 4 players level 3 nomad is what we've always played, but the gamestage multiplier is just too high as of 240. Maybe a gamestage multiplier slider can be added to the difficulty settings you are talking about adding?
Jimmy_James
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I think we are not talking the same language. Iam describing his situation with A17 and his problems and that the answer “mod it if you don’t like it” is not fitting to everbody,maybe.
My example with the sleeper spawn depending on the gamestage was his game-breaking feature.
And I can fully understand this. But ther is no workaround when you don’t touch the files in any way.
He played 7 days for 2000h.
danilokent
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Hi guys, this is a comment about ALPHA 17 in general, when I play horde nights, all the zombies and dogs lag like crazy, they get easily confused and makes it a terrible experience. I remember A16 was great, but since A17, horde nights are a disappointment. Anyone else experience these issues? Any fix? We use a server from GameserverKings and my PC is new, RTX 2080. Any suggestions will be appreciated. Thank you.
So not even installing mods made by other people? Well, that is his decision.
There are people who will never board a plane nor a ship. They'll never visit Australia (or Asia if they are Australians). Still no bridges planned to connect Australia with Asia.
madmole
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I'm 4 foot 26.It's a little known fact that, although heavily built, MadMole is just under four feet tall. You should see him in full dwarven armour... where do you think the name comes from?
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Last I checked you no longer need a beaker to make glue in a campfire.
How many 4x4 parts have you found in your playthrough? Could you have assembled one before you had the ability by crafting anyway?
madmole
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We're not going to make any harsh changes unless its something overlooked in late game. Its feeling pretty good to me. We are working on random gen, Robert is exposing the xml to a node editor so our lead artist can make it beautiful, and we already have a new biome generation.
Genosis
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Couldn't be happier to hear that; the spaghetti roads can be a bit silly at times, ruins having vehicles a bit. I usually bee-line objectives now, at least the terrain is often smoother and easier to traverse with the Motorbike/4X4.
I hope building mixer gets a lot of love, I have found a town in our seed that is approximately 75% a mix between radio towers and military camps.
madmole
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These were both my ideas so if they suck I can take the heat for them. But, my goal is to make non INT characters viable, or any single or two low attribute characters viable, and nobody in their right mind is playing without INT right now due to wanting a vehicle. I have a plan to decouple crafting quality from INT so int will not be the must have attribute.
As for selling wood, its not very profitable. Are you a few hundred coins short to buy something you want? Go chop trees for 2-3 hours and you'll have enough coin. I don't find that OP. You could already sell stones for a reasonable price. You can smith armor for good money. I don't see a problem with supporting entry level work roles. Trader quests pay a lot now, enough to be worth it and the XP is pretty glorious. However, I can still outpace it.
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