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Developer Discussions: Alpha 17

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Sorry but if 1x2 tunnels collapse Digging is more dangerous than Zombies. I will mod that out and say it as i see itIts completly broken and theres nothing to discuss . <-period

But hey, if you like to die all 2 Kilometers, have fun
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I guess you will do that. Meanwhile, i'm coming to Arizona, to see if digging in sand is more dangerous than fighting a man who wants to bite you.

 
I guess you will do that. Meanwhile, i'm coming to Arizona, to see if digging in sand is more dangerous than fighting a man who wants to bite you.
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Joking aside, When i look at lategame videos of 16.4, many people have tunnels going all across the map. I don't think it should be such an easy task.

 
Sorry but if 1x2 tunnels collapse Digging is more dangerous than Zombies. I will mod that out and say it as i see itIts completly broken and theres nothing to discuss . <-period

But hey, if you like to die all 2 Kilometers, have fun
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Let's ask the resident geologist of this forum how digging a tunnel in sand goes, shall we?

You can't.

 
Joking aside, When i look at lategame videos of 16.4, many people have tunnels going all across the map. I don't think it should be such an easy task.
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Intead it makes now Death is Death playing impossible.

I am sure i will never start to support 1x2 Tunnel because some masochists want a big red "kill the player" button

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Let's ask the resident geologist of this forum how digging a tunnel in sand goes, shall we?








You can't.
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Lets ask the people with a healthy brain in forum if Zombiehands can penetrate a massive steel wall

 
Intead it makes now Death is Death playing impossible.I am sure i will never start to support 1x2 Tunnel because some masochists want a big red "kill the player" button

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Lets ask the people with a healthy brain in forum if Zombiehands can penetrate a massive steel wall
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Yep. Zombies don't exist. Sand does. Can't dig tunnels in them. No structural integrity. You'll die.

 
Look, if I died from the collapsing sand, I'd get upset too, rage quited maybe. Then what?

- Maybe I'd change my play style, stopped being obsessed with tunnels in deserts.

- Or modded the SI of sand (like you did)

- Or started building supports and roof in my tunnels

But I would not start an internet compaign to make TFP change the game to my liking (at least if I can do the easy change in xml myself).

 
Intead it makes now Death is Death playing impossible.I am sure i will never start to support 1x2 Tunnel because some masochists want a big red "kill the player" button

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Lets ask the people with a healthy brain in forum if Zombiehands can penetrate a massive steel wall
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Yes, they can.

 
Just saying it now, melee is retuned. You can't endlessly power attack any more. The best way to play is to use left click attack to get a stagger (left click is buffed some). Then power attack, as power attacking against a knocked down opponent does extra damage. I mean sure you can go flying in there and power attack sometimes, but you want to try and save it until they are knocked down and then you get the kill most of the time.
Another nice strategy is to get a sneak bow shot for 2x damage, then you can usually power attack for a kill or knockdown.

Before left click was pretty useless. Now left click is good for mining too. You can power attack mine, but its pretty dumb considering its meant for melee combat. Like anything try it out, and experiment you'll find your groove. It plays how we intended now, with primary attacks being good, and power attacks more used in situations where it makes sense because if you run out of stamina you are screwed. It also is set up for a risk reward style of play because you WANT to get that power shot kill in but sometimes other zombies are near so its a little risky.

Firearms have way more up front damage and less perked late game damage. (They are still really nice) So they are now useful early game, 2 head shots instead of 7 to kill a weak zombie with a pistol, much better.

Anyhow a new patch is coming soon and its really awesome. I overhauled trader prices and economy so theres mods at traders now and way more accessible brown guns but the price skyrockets as the quality gets good. They have more construction materials and all the new foods are possible to spawn, vending machines have the new foods too.

A ton of stuff coming. Its playing really good. Some nice optimizations too, with a big one coming at some point.
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Has hitting a zombie after a knockdown always done extra damage in a17? Doesn't say it does. Thought it was removed.

Not a lot of specific info here. But as someone who only used power attacks in alpha 17 this, power attack stamina nerf?, has me concerned.

I was never able to endlessly power attack, I would run out of stamina, even before this incoming update.

Melee has me worried but messing with mining has me terrified. Mining is too slow in alpha 17. At least in early game. If it gets any changes at all they should be buffs. But again this info is kinda vague, so we will see.

 
So you say they should remove zombies from the game ?Because they are not realistic
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Lol, there's a difference between implementing physical behaviours of fantasy creatures, and implementing credible physical soil behaviour.

 
So you say they should remove zombies from the game ?Because they are not realistic
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What are you talking about? This was never advertised as a realistic simulation.

Sand having questionable SI is a matter of plausibility. You can reasonably expect it to be unstable.

And yes, I'm sort of an expert, too. As a professional potter I need to have a considerable background in mineralogy, geology, crystallography... rock stuff, y'know?

 
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What are you talking about? This was never advertised as a realistic simulation.
Sand having questionable SI is a matter of plausibility. You can reasonably expect it to be unstable.

And yes, I'm sort of an expert, too. As a professional potter I need to have a considerable background in mineralogy, geology, crystallography... rock stuff, y'know?
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Can we be best friends now?

 
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