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Question for the Devs:

What was the reason for ending support of A16 at .4B8?

Was it because the work on A17 was so drastic to the core code that anymore work on A16 was a waste of time?

 
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Roland: I was curious; you send messages to the streamers about the status of A17E, mainly that it's not ready and won't be ready for another couple of weeks for sure, and t-shirts... And so on.

Shouldn't you also post something similar here also? Some of the streamers make videos to tell their followers about the news so, I would prefer to hear it from you, right where I check every day, then to stumble onto a random video.

It's not like it's suppose to be a secret now, is it? (sorry if it's a secret... My bad!) :)

 
Question for the Devs:
What was the reason for ending support of A16 at .4B8?

Was it because the work on A17 was so drastic to the core code that anymore work on A16 was a waste of time?
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Because of the work on A17, any more work on A16 would have been a waste of time. Drastic doesn't really have anything to do with it. There is extra work involved in any update that you want to release to the public. In any particular Alpha, there comes a time when that extra work is just a waste of resources.

 
I find it so sad that 7 Days to die as Mixed Reviews in Recent Reviews on Steam, and a Mostly Positive rating overall, compared to Very Positive not so long ago. All that because of some people who cannot wait for greatness to be created and ready (in this case, A17 of course).

My all time favorite game... It breaks my heart! :( But I play A16.4 and suddenly :( turns into this :)

 
Random thought since one thing I'm really hoping A17 brings is some new block shapes that can compete with the 'Pole' defense.

What if all blocks only 'worked' if logically oriented?

So Poles could still be horizontal, but their structural support would -only- come from their ends actually connected to another block.

So you have an 11x11 cage, full cube blocks in corners (couldn't use vertical quarter blocks since they wouldn't connect), Poles horizontal across faces.

If a Z took out a chest high corner block then you'd likely see that corner collapse. Unlike currently where all the Poles are also vertical supports, even though visually they don't come close to touching each other.

I _think_ it's possible to do that, judging by Campfires, cardboard boxes, etc.

If nothing else it'd make building a bit more challenging :)

 
I find it so sad that 7 Days to die as Mixed Reviews in Recent Reviews on Steam, and a Mostly Positive rating overall, compared to Very Positive not so long ago. All that because of some people who cannot wait for greatness to be created and ready (in this case, A17 of course).
My all time favorite game... It breaks my heart! :( But I play A16.4 and suddenly :( turns into this :)
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I feel your frustration, Space4Ace. I love this game. Sure, I've been frustrated by the slowness of the development timeline, as I'd imagine most of the player base is. Honestly, I'd imagine the developers are probably fairly frustrated themselves...but they want to put out the best A17 they can...so they parley what information they can to us and they keep plugging along.

If I had one major criticism of TFP, it'd be that they don't communicate as well as they could. Roland, Fataal and Gazz do their best to keep us informed here (with the occasional assist from MadMole), and I appreciate that. I just wish they'd translate some of that communication over to Steam at points. Though, perhaps Steam requires a new update/build before you can do that. I dunno. Wouldn't make sense for that to be the case, but LOTS of things don't make sense. ;)

But yeah, the butt-hurt whining and bad-reviewing the game because you're PO'd that 17 hasn't dropped yet is ridiculous. The game is playable as-is...and not only playable, but actually enjoyable. Yet still you have people who will ignore that completely, all so they can damage the rep of the game and the devs in some sort of (at best) misguided attempt to spur the devs to hurry up, or (at worst) just so they can have some sort of petty, spiteful vengeance on a very hardworking set of developers for not doing things the way they should.

 
Figured I should go ahead and make an updated one since I'm feeling better, and it hasn't seemed to change the past week-ish. Sorry if I missed any between the last two. Feel free to correct me. :)

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So...

Were there any changes to the save game data that fixes various issues with the map in game? Specifically, the fog in the map, after playing a map long enough, getting corrupted or losing visibility on the map of places you've visited?

 
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Hi guys. Really busy day today so I’ve had to serve myself up some ketchup.

A17 is going to be amazing. Some of the polishing up and refining of some of the features that just happened this week are complete game changers. The game may feel dead to a lot of people but we should codename this release as The Phoenix because once people watch the streamers and then get their hands on it and word gets out I have no doubt 7 Days will rise again higher than ever before. I just hope all of you who are naysaying and preaching doom will be glad to be wrong.

I’ll try switching to copying stuff over instead of moving. I just figured it was the once-a-weekers that were the ones complaining. If you are reading daily there should be zero difference. Everything up until 3 days ago is still in this thread. That quote from Madmole on the photos is from his twitter so the arrows don’t match up with anything. Sorry.

There are no official release dates. I tell the streamers it won’t be the next couple of weeks so they can plan for other content in case they’re not currently doing 7 Days to Die (you know, with it being dead and all). If they choose to “leak” that out then that creates unofficial reports of when it won’t be coming which is fine. I fine telling you it won’t be today nor next weekend either.

TFP does have an internal release date they are aiming for but I ain’t saying when that is. You could send me a million dollars and I would tell you in a second. But other than that know that it is for sure coming and it will be worth it and to survive you will have to rethink, restrategize, and adapt from what you previously knew. Soon you will be back at a fresh Day 1 and it’s going to be fantastic.

 
Hi guys. Really busy day today so I’ve had to serve myself up some ketchup.
A17 is going to be amazing. Some of the polishing up and refining of some of the features that just happened this week are complete game changers. The game may feel dead to a lot of people but we should codename this release as The Phoenix because once people watch the streamers and then get their hands on it and word gets out I have no doubt 7 Days will rise again higher than ever before. I just hope all of you who are naysaying and preaching doom will be glad to be wrong.

I’ll try switching to copying stuff over instead of moving. I just figured it was the once-a-weekers that were the ones complaining. If you are reading daily there should be zero difference. Everything up until 3 days ago is still in this thread. That quote from Madmole on the photos is from his twitter so the arrows don’t match up with anything. Sorry.

There are no official release dates. I tell the streamers it won’t be the next couple of weeks so they can plan for other content in case they’re not currently doing 7 Days to Die (you know, with it being dead and all). If they choose to “leak” that out then that creates unofficial reports of when it won’t be coming which is fine. I fine telling you it won’t be today nor next weekend either.

TFP does have an internal release date they are aiming for but I ain’t saying when that is. You could send me a million dollars and I would tell you in a second. But other than that know that it is for sure coming and it will be worth it and to survive you will have to rethink, restrategize, and adapt from what you previously knew. Soon you will be back at a fresh Day 1 and it’s going to be fantastic.
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Very much appreciated Roland... Thank you!

 
You could send me a million dollars and I would tell you in a second.
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How about a piece of pizza. Sorry I couldn`t resist and grabbed some. <3

Roland, thanks so much for giving so much efford for being around and doing what you do best. We appreciate it a lot. I mean it. Have a calm and happy weekend there. Thank you , mate.

 
Hi guys. Really busy day today so I’ve had to serve myself up some ketchup.
A17 is going to be amazing. Some of the polishing up and refining of some of the features that just happened this week are complete game changers. The game may feel dead to a lot of people but we should codename this release as The Phoenix because once people watch the streamers and then get their hands on it and word gets out I have no doubt 7 Days will rise again higher than ever before. I just hope all of you who are naysaying and preaching doom will be glad to be wrong.

I’ll try switching to copying stuff over instead of moving. I just figured it was the once-a-weekers that were the ones complaining. If you are reading daily there should be zero difference. Everything up until 3 days ago is still in this thread. That quote from Madmole on the photos is from his twitter so the arrows don’t match up with anything. Sorry.

There are no official release dates. I tell the streamers it won’t be the next couple of weeks so they can plan for other content in case they’re not currently doing 7 Days to Die (you know, with it being dead and all). If they choose to “leak” that out then that creates unofficial reports of when it won’t be coming which is fine. I fine telling you it won’t be today nor next weekend either.

TFP does have an internal release date they are aiming for but I ain’t saying when that is. You could send me a million dollars and I would tell you in a second. But other than that know that it is for sure coming and it will be worth it and to survive you will have to rethink, restrategize, and adapt from what you previously knew. Soon you will be back at a fresh Day 1 and it’s going to be fantastic.
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Hey Roland, this is off topic but can you help me with some math homework?

Code: 
T[sUB]Kraken[/sUB] > T[sUB]0[/sUB] + 7 days
T[sUB]0[/sUB] = Updates[sUB]dev[/sUB] + Updates[sUB]dev[/sUB] - 3 days + k[sUB]etchup[/sUB]
$1,000,000 = T[sUB]Kraken[/sUB] + 1 second
I want to solve for TKraken.

 
But other than that know that it is for sure coming and it will be worth it and to survive you will have to rethink, restrategize, and adapt from what you previously knew. Soon you will be back at a fresh Day 1 and it’s going to be fantastic.
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YES! This is exactly what I have signed up for! Thank you!

 
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