mr.devolver
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PC Developer Discussions: Alpha 17
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I'll try the patch because as i said things seems better only on the graphic and technical side and i'm curious to discover more. You can't clearly discern a prejudice from a first look.
I'm 80% sure i'll leave the game because time has passed and i'm not gonna risk to wait again all this time for an update,there are a lot of entertaining and finished game to play.
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wildaxeman1
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guys, if you do not like to see games progress, do not buy early acess.
for me, it is like getting multiple games for one price. every update is new beginning and new challenges. i may or may not like changes, only time can tell.
mr.devolver
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Oh come on now, we all knew it won't be available any time soon and you ask this question? Really?
lazdeuce
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Luckily for us the zombies don't use guns.as i imagined some players spawned after 2000 just to say this game is crap this game is**** , maybe they were always spawning , but this is unfix-able bug ,
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on other news , its unfortunate to tell the panties of peace legion that experiments showed that underoos are not bullet proof . i was wrong
https://youtu.be/0Ssoa59bM5c?t=437
Packpacks and maps
I- First of all, allowing the back pack to be expanded is great. I just think that it could be presented in a better way.
Instead of making off all the space that the player (could have). Why not keep it from showing at all? So if the player starts off with three rows in the back pack then only three rolls show.
Then as the player progresses and spends points into areas that expand the back pack. It shows up. Each investment opens up more space and may keep the player guessing as to how much space they can max out with.
I know that some players may be upset and think that the new game limits the player, (not knowing) that they can expand it latter. But it will be a whole lot more fun this way.
II- Hoping to see a screen shot of a new RG map of Alpha-17.
I- First of all, allowing the back pack to be expanded is great. I just think that it could be presented in a better way.
Instead of making off all the space that the player (could have). Why not keep it from showing at all? So if the player starts off with three rows in the back pack then only three rolls show.
Then as the player progresses and spends points into areas that expand the back pack. It shows up. Each investment opens up more space and may keep the player guessing as to how much space they can max out with.
I know that some players may be upset and think that the new game limits the player, (not knowing) that they can expand it latter. But it will be a whole lot more fun this way.
II- Hoping to see a screen shot of a new RG map of Alpha-17.
Armstrrong
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Yep... on 10th October 2018.
A Nice Cup of Tea
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Bub would disagree!
Ninja_Freak
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My Bad... :jaded:
Jedo
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Prejudice (noun) - 1) any unfavorable opinion or feeling formed beforehand or without knowledge, thought, or reason; 2) any preconceived opinion or feeling, either favorable or unfavorable
I mean, the initial post in question was filled with prejudice. It doesn't matter whether it was "clearly discerned" or otherwise. My point is that it looks like you will be gone soon. Bye.
Poojam
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The Long Dark, The Forest, Salt, Mist Survival, No Man's Sky, Empyrion are all very popular single player survival games.You're forgetting about the thousands of people playing PvP by themselves privately....
But to be serious, all this back and forth about the actual percentage of PvP is irrelevant. The key here is that in the mind of the man responsible for putting out the game, PvP is essentially 1% and single player and MP Cooperative is 99% of what he feels is important for this game. Who cares what the actual tallies are. The developers are making this into a Single Player game first and foremost and a PVE game among friends and family second and any features that happen to benefit PvP are completely coincidental. Even if you could prove that PvP was actually 20% it wouldn't matter in regards to Madmole's approach in developing the game. He decided long ago that for this game PvP would be a non-factor. That's the actual significance of him saying 1%. And with that attitude it wouldn't surprise me if the current percentage really was 1% at this point as Cup's quick ratio seemed to signify.
Any features that would benefit SP and PVE even if it is at the expense and to the detriment of PVP only give the devs 1% pause before they are added with 99% confidence that it is the right thing to do.
Nobody needs to lecture them or help them understand the popularity of PvP or exactly how much more money they would make if this game focused on PvP or how much more longevity this game would have thanks to PvP. They've considered it all and rejected it. They have a vision for what they want this game to be and they have the means to do it. Maybe if the game wasn't so popular as it is they might feel a bit of pressure to listen to the advice to make this game just like every other similar MP game on the market and focus on PVP first. But they don't have to do that because they have succeeded to the point that they can make this game be whatever they want it to be without worry.
If they ever decide to take the core of what they have created here and put out a separate product that is focused on PvP I think that would be fantastic. Contrary to some accusations I don't hate PvP. I just am so thankful that there is at least one game like this on the market that has kept Single Player as its primary focus. I would think that you guys in the "1%" would be satisfied with the fact that 99% of games on the market are designed with you as their primary target. You can let us have this one.
As a matter of fact, when I search for Survival + Singleplayer in Steam I get 453 results.
What's frustrating is that there are countless ways to improve PVP at literally no cost to PVE. All it takes is time to understand the issue and formulate a rebalance. That's why TFP get a lot of vitriole. It's not because they have a vision and we're asking to change it, because most suggestions aren't. And if they were, they would have a valid leg to stand on. It's simply because they basically dismiss any suggestion that improves PVP. I think it's because they don't want to take the time to understand and do something about it. That's their fault and they deserve every piece of ♥♥♥♥posting they receive because the kickstarter mandate works both ways.
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