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Time for the posting frequency to start going a bit nuts.... I claim first nutso post.

Kracken, damnit.

No?

How about now?

Kracken?

How do you bait a Kracken?

 
The last testing branch update was 2 days ago. To me, this usually means either they found a major bug and are stomping it, or everyone is approaching burnout and they took the weekend off. Either way, the weekend of the 4th/5th would be the earliest, so y'all can go take a nice little nap and stop stressing.
I have never really noticed, do they only release on the weekend? That would mean not hotfix work until Monday at the earliest... ?

 
I see you are new here.
I remember Alpha's where the expected release date was postponed 4-5 times. A17 will most likely come somewhere in September, probably nearing the end of it.
Yes I join forum after 16.2, and that is really not good news :) I expect Alpha 17 in september, but not experimental or Beta Tester Version to go at that time.

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well i just think that a17 is going to be a good build. and i still hold hopes that TFP is going to inadvertently fix all the bugs that make pvp almost unbearable. but we shall see.
For me I just love those new Gyro or 4x4 to be added, improve AI of zed is good too, not excited for bug fix or good looking light, I just need those couple of things in A16 and I am happy :) .

 
Is the kraken released already ? :(
Well, not for you. A17 is too good and your brain might overload with fun, excitement and you could develop some medical condition because of that. Maybe some kind of twitch or a giggle that comes out at inappropriate times.

Trust me, TFP has your health and welfare at heart. Me? They hate me and now I twitch and giggle all the time... :)

 
what bugs? all i know sound position is crap and its hard to tell where someone is
This is why I love my surround sound headphones.

Well, not for you. A17 is too good and your brain might overload with fun, excitement and you could develop some medical condition because of that. Maybe some kind of twitch or a giggle that comes out at inappropriate times.
Trust me, TFP has your health and welfare at heart. Me? They hate me and now I twitch and giggle all the time... :)
Well, the World Health Organization already considers gaming to be an addiction like alcoholism or drug addiction. They classify those conditions as diseases, so... I mean...

 
For me I just love those new Gyro or 4x4 to be added, improve AI of zed is good too, not excited for bug fix or good looking light, I just need those couple of things in A16 and I am happy :) .
As far as i know, there will be no Gyro on A17, so better not wait for it;)

 
Hopefully in the next Alpha we will see other weapons such as the M-16. Seems out of place that we have the army in the game and no M-16.

 
Hopefully in the next Alpha we will see other weapons such as the M-16. Seems out of place that we have the army in the game and no M-16.
It can be easily added with some mod - actually it is possible it is already in some mode - there are so many of them. I have played in 4 or 5 and they have many new weapons, and bullets. You should try them out.

 
Hopefully in the next Alpha we will see other weapons such as the M-16. Seems out of place that we have the army in the game and no M-16.
Yes I hope so too. Maybe make the high power/high caliber weapons rare drops at military bases or what not, but make the zeds wandering the base covered in kevlar and hard to kill. Maybe the military zeds are always feral? (Possible plot point that the military is responsible for the virus.) I would love to have an m16 late game during a horde.😁

 
Hopefully in the next Alpha we will see other weapons such as the M-16. Seems out of place that we have the army in the game and no M-16.
Driveable Tanks with tank guns confirmed for A18!!

 
Yes I hope so too. Maybe make the high power/high caliber weapons rare drops at military bases or what not, but make the zeds wandering the base covered in kevlar and hard to kill. Maybe the military zeds are always feral? (Possible plot point that the military is responsible for the virus.) I would love to have an m16 late game during a horde.😁
All the m16 are dirty and with no cleaning kits left the only autos that still work is the old reliable AK47.

 
Well, the World Health Organization already considers gaming to be an addiction like alcoholism or drug addiction. They classify those conditions as diseases, so... I mean...
Say there, this is great! Put in for disability, get my "treatments" at various Game-Cons throughout the world... yes... Yes! I'm sick and need help, lot and lots of financial help!

* Now what doctor do I know with "saucy" ethical standards?

 
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Funny thing about an M-16/M4... It uses 5.56 mm rounds, which are smaller than the 7.62 coming out of the AK or sniper rifle, but they're going much faster. Because of this it tends to be better for armor penetration. Likes to tumble through the body, rather than dealing crush damage and creating a big temporary wound cavity. (Bullet goes in, dumps it's kinetic energy like setting off a firecracker under water, but the projectile usually has enough energy to come out the other side of a human target. Human shields aren't great.)

The smaller, faster projectile (5.56 or 556) will punch through undead fleshy targets as it's really meant to tumble and rip and tear blood vessels and perforate organs, rather than impart a great deal of kinetic energy. (So the 556 ALSO has greater over penetration.) They don't really bleed though, so while the bullets will zip through, it won't really do a lot.

However... A headshot is still a headshot. Hitting bone with that much kinetic energy can do 'wonderful' things and might make delicious scrambled brains.

So I might want a 5.56 platform against bandits and players, not so much against zeds. AK is better against zeds, bu tis also very effective against NPC's/Bandits/Players.

Pros for the M-16/M4/AR:

  • Lighter. Ammo weighs less (bigger stacks)
  • Higher accuracy (Due to a number of factors)
  • Over penetration (can go through more than one target, or punch through armor better?)
  • Spawling (bleed chance or higher bleed chance?)
  • Very common design, MANY attachments and parts


Cons for the M-16/M4:

  • Tighter tolerances, requiring more frequent maintenance (faster degradation)
  • Less kinetic energy delivery (less effective against zombies)


Having trouble coming up with too many cons. At the end of the day, an M-16/M4 or similar wouldn't be bad to have. I could see it being added to alter the gameplay dynamic a bit. Though right now the SMG has the highest DPS of any weapon, IIRC. Least last I checked the wiki.

It's only a 9mm round, but with good, accurate shooting it's pretty nasty. (Of course that goes for any decent firearm)

Anyway, that's a small bit of analysis on the subject.

 
All the m16 are dirty and with no cleaning kits left the only autos that still work is the old reliable AK47.
You could probably pull an AK47 out of the rain drenched mud and it would still fire without exploding in your hand.

 
Actually, no. There have been plenty of weekends that there have been multiple updates.
That's right! Some of these guys even work on weekends to get things done; that's what I call dedication!

And Joel (Madmole) takes time to make a quick video on some weekends, when he should probably just enjoy the couple of days off.

 
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