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So when will Alpha 17 be? Not in January, not in February, when?
Strategic thoughts regarding the calendar before reaching a gold status:

Based on A16->A17 taking 1 year. Based on 2 more Alphas after A17: A18,A19 taking 2 years.

3 more years of Alpha.

Beta will be another 1-2 years.

So gold looking like 4-5 years, 2022-2023 wish.

So asking to hurry up A17 or chomping at the bit for A17 is just meh. "It's Done When It's Done"

 
Add to those ideas availability during early to late game. Bicycles and minibikes ought to be more commonly available early on. Have a bike shop POI that has whole bikes that can be claimed. Have an uncommon chance for minibikes to spawn in garages and gas stations and a very rare chance for the hog and jeep to spawn that is leveled to more common chances based on player level so that they are more likely to spawn by late game.
God that would be so fun, break into a garage and BAM a mini bike!

 
Love it

Gooodevening all!

TBH i never followed 7dtd forums actively. But i must say it's so extremely funny! But the whole discussion about empyrion is that not a 'little' bit OT? Also keep up the sarcasm love it when people love to read that A16 saves are playable on A17:cocksure:

 
I still think instead of boss zombies...which make the game too generic, I would still rather see specialty zombies such as a miner carrying dynamite, a scientist carrying a beaker of fuel, a soldier carrying a rocket..that when killed ...they explode doing damage to spikes and walls of a base. Solves several problems to later game problems with indestructible bases.Ouch
Very very good idea

 
Faatal

Yes, it will be interesting sorting it out. Bicycle could be same speed as minibike, but burn through stamina pretty quick and be slow going up hills.
There is also acceleration, braking, sprinting (turbo), traction and damage (hitting stuff) that can vary between vehicles and their mods.
@FAATAL correct me if i'm wrong but i remember Joel aka MadMole said that in A17 all vehicle speeds will be reduced. I'm assuming its a work around in order to stop vehicles from falling threw the map.

 
One can hope :) A16 is still a very solid release, that I really enjoy playing :)
Wouldn't say its "solid", some serious bugs that are still around that sadly won't be patched til Alpha 17. I hope it isn't as late as August, that is almost a whole year for a major update without any minor ones beforehand.

 
Hope this is the right place to post this which developers read.

I have a few suggestions:

1) Electrical: the ability to be able to connect 2 or more Motion Detectors / switches to one light. Reason: coming into a room such as a kitchen with 2 entrances/exits and have the ability to have a switch at either entrance for the same light.

2) The ability to make Double Doors and sliding doors would be great

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Wouldn't say its "solid", some serious bugs that are still around that sadly won't be patched til Alpha 17. I hope it isn't as late as August, that is almost a whole year for a major update without any minor ones beforehand.
you say bugs what kinda of bugs? just wondering whee to post them and you may have an idea where to posts these

 
@madmole, video please!
I'm staring to think that Joel doesnt care on community judging by such relation .

I don't understand why he then has told that video content will be leaves more often now .

From the moment of the last video has passed 2 weeks.

Or we have to believe that he has told "Im on strike" jokes?

I have brought a large number of people into this game and i mean i interested in this

project and i want to monitor the progress of the game which is not relise.

it isn't necessary to make promises about video updates if u can't do it.

 
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I'm staring to think that Joel doesnt care on community judging by such relation .
I don't understand why he then has told that video content will be leaves more often now .

From the moment of the last video has passed 2 weeks.

Or we have to believe that he has told "Im on strike" jokes?

I have brought a large number of people into this game and i mean i interested in this

project and i want to monitor the progress of the game which is not relise.
Roland said that Madmole will probably be coming out with a new video soon. He's just been swamped. I truly believe he enjoys making them. He just also enjoys making the game.

 
I'm staring to think that Joel doesnt care on community judging by such relation .
I don't understand why he then has told that video content will be leaves more often now .

From the moment of the last video has passed 2 weeks.

Or we have to believe that he has told "Im on strike" jokes?

I have brought a large number of people into this game and i mean i interested in this

project and i want to monitor the progress of the game which is not relise.

it isn't necessary to make promises about video updates if u can't do it.
Let me preface this by saying I am fully aware that what I and others with our interest do is merely a tiny fraction of responsibility and actual WORK that the Pimps and specifically Joel does. Their jobs are 10000x more time consuming, difficult and intricate than anything I can ever hope to come up with.

That said, I dont think its fair at all for people to post things such as this without the understanding of what goes into developing and working on a game, even if its a patch, and ALpha or an update. I work a few hours a day on my mod, merely a tiny percentage of the time that Im sure Pimps handle in a day. And even for me, with this being a hobby, it can be overwhelming. Things creep up, squash a bug get another etc and all. Add a new feature, tune 20 others to make it work. There are times I just want to unplug, spend time with the family, get a pizza do ANYTHING other than stare at a computer screen, let alone hop on a Discord and do a Q and A or post previews. There are times I would LOVE to hop on and have a great discussion. I even miss playing the game. I have not been on my own server since December. I miss my community. I miss posting here and debating with you guys and gals, something I have not been able to do since crunch time has come on my mod. But when I sit down at the end of the day for me the choice is take 2 hours and browse the forums and Discord and chat people up or get 2 hours of work done to get this update out for people to enjoy (or hate) I have to always choose to get us closer to a release. And this is coming from a nobody modder. I can only imagine the pressures on the team.

Please keep this in mind when demanding videos/dates/previews. The dialogue we engage in here with other team members is pretty solid I feel. If Joel does promise a video he gets slammed for it being a rush job or not looking "professional". If he decides to go for a burger (or a power shake in his case perhaps) and just decides to take a weekend off he gets slammed for it. Can some of us TRY to at least cut him a break? Walk a mile and such. It is NOT easy to focus on one singular thing all week, and then make your weekend revolve around hyping it as well.

Pressure cna burnout can hit all of us on the drop of a dime. All of us need time away from our work. Just because you can not SEE what is going on does not mean there isn't sweat being poured into the update. I spent this entire week creating loot lists, balancing biome generation, adding Fallout zones, tweaking POI distribution and balancing buffs. One could look at the progress I made visually and claim I have done nothing all week because I can not take a photo of it (well i could but only Guppy and Tin would probably appreciate it) and preview it for you. That does not mean work isn't being done.

TLDR: Don't forget to cuddle you favorite game developer, they are probably pulling their hairs out on intangible but major gameplay changes.

PS - Ravenhearst 3.0 will "hopefully" release sometime before the end of February. Dare I use the dreaded word SOON! But I have since learned to love and appreciate that with these things you can NEVER give an actual date. We have had to postpone test server updates last second due to last minute fixes. I completely get it now. Back to the dungeon I go :)

 
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I'm staring to think that Joel doesnt care on community judging by such relation .
I don't understand why he then has told that video content will be leaves more often now .

From the moment of the last video has passed 2 weeks.

Or we have to believe that he has told "Im on strike" jokes?

I have brought a large number of people into this game and i mean i interested in this

project and i want to monitor the progress of the game which is not relise.

it isn't necessary to make promises about video updates if u can't do it.
The "I'm on strike" was just a joke. Making videos is not Joel's main job and he has been busy at his main job. I talked to him on Friday and he said he would try to get one out this weekend and he typically shoots his videos on Sundays so we can hope it will come tomorrow. But he is only going to show stuff that he feels is ready to be shown.

For example, I noticed a really really really really REALLY cool change in A17 during the last test build and suggested strongly that he show THAT because it was so friggin awesome. He said that it might not make it in if they can't get it to work on a network and that it was only working in SP at the moment and was not yet a for sure thing. So if he were to show that in a video and then later have to pull it because of reasons the community would be super disappointed.

Believe me, you don't want to know about this if there's a chance it could get cut because D. A. M. N.

Better if I'm the only one to be super disappointed later if the worst happens. But I'll make you a deal. We can give it a codename like....oh...."Everdeen" and after A17 comes out if the feature gets cut I'll tell you what it was. ;)

 
Hello Roland, thanks for the information.

I hope next video would be interesting.

btw i thought that "im on strike" from Joel wasn't joke...

 
The "I'm on strike" was just a joke. Making videos is not Joel's main job and he has been busy at his main job. I talked to him on Friday and he said he would try to get one out this weekend and he typically shoots his videos on Sundays so we can hope it will come tomorrow. But he is only going to show stuff that he feels is ready to be shown.
For example, I noticed a really really really really REALLY cool change in A17 during the last test build and suggested strongly that he show THAT because it was so friggin awesome. He said that it might not make it in if they can't get it to work on a network and that it was only working in SP at the moment and was not yet a for sure thing. So if he were to show that in a video and then later have to pull it because of reasons the community would be super disappointed.

Believe me, you don't want to know about this if there's a chance it could get cut because D. A. M. N.

Better if I'm the only one to be super disappointed later if the worst happens. But I'll make you a deal. We can give it a codename like....oh...."Everdeen" and after A17 comes out if the feature gets cut I'll tell you what it was. ;)
Roland you tease....lol......hmmm Everdeen.....is that a hunger games reference? Maybe a new battle royale mode that currently only works in sp atm. How did i do? *grin*

 
Roland you tease....lol......hmmm Everdeen.....is that a hunger games reference? Maybe a new battle royale mode that currently only works in sp atm. How did i do? *grin*
Thats what i originally thought but then i thought a battle royale mode in sp only is not a battle royale..what would it be like in single player? it cant be as cool as roland is saying ... like he experienced it ..... if its SP only

 
Thats what i originally thought but then i thought a battle royale mode in sp only is not a battle royale..what would it be like in single player? it cant be as cool as roland is saying ... like he experienced it ..... if its SP only
Could be a new horde mode...but with a twist. Think horde mode but confined space with time and location basesd threats.

 
Just want to chime in and say "+Removing a mod has a chance of damaging/ destroying the weapon"

I am somewhat ok with some weapon damage so long as it can be repaired, but destroying the weapon seems a bit much.

 
Yes, it will be interesting sorting it out. Bicycle could be same speed as minibike, but burn through stamina pretty quick and be slow going up hills.
There is also acceleration, braking, sprinting (turbo), traction and damage (hitting stuff) that can vary between vehicles and their mods.
Can't say I envy you and what you have to do....but I do send all my hope in you getting it done to everyone's satisfaction (including yours of course). Can't wait to see how it turns out. Chin up, pip pip and all that good stuff.

 
Can't say I envy you and what you have to do....but I do send all my hope in you getting it done to everyone's satisfaction (including yours of course). Can't wait to see how it turns out. Chin up, pip pip and all that good stuff.
Imo the bike should be slightly faster than full sprint but consumes less stamina, shouldbe slower than the mini bike.

 
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