I actually like it. At least it has humor, Walking Dead is just a Romero movie streched out endlessly.
PC Developer Discussions: Alpha 17
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Phoenixshade35
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I rather enjoy znation, and i gotta say doc is my favorite :smile-new:
JaxTeller718
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Yes. Not everything has to be super serious. Its called fun. The show isn't going to win any awards by no means, but in the same way low budget horror can be fun, Z-Nation is fun. It doesn't take itself seriously.
Some members could learn a thing or two about that
Sills, it's not an ACTUAL Blood Moon but being a player of 7 Days you will definitely enjoy what occurs. I really don't want to spoil it so I will stop there.
Royal Deluxe
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I simply hate everything asylum ever produced, i like trashy fun "Doctor who, Ash versus evil" but z Nation is in my opinion simply stupid
But let us not diskuss subjective taste
Aldranon
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OK, I can dig myself out of this.That wasn't my intention.
So, what is Conventional Zombie Lore (by Aldranon the Wise).
-TWD has the most exposure to its theory(?) of Zombie lore.
-TWD lore has the more (Viewer-hours) than any other lore. (Source: Al's Marina and Zombie Lore Tracking Service)
-So as Viewer-hours = cash and cash = win. So Multiplying TWD lore by infinity and adding Win, you get a Infinite Win Syndrome! Also known as Conventional Wisdom or Conventional Zombie Lore in this case.
I hope that cleared it up for you.
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Royal Deluxe
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A pile of #%§# is allways a pile of #%§#
It doesnt matter how large the pile is
(by Royal Deluxe the bread)
It doesnt matter how large the pile is
(by Royal Deluxe the bread)
ThomasSurvives
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Completely agree, they have to make Navezgane interesting so people choose it, so far Random Gen is vastly superior for obvious reasons.
dcsobral
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It might be Fun Pimps inspiration, but I, personally, don't see it. One might say that the one thing The Walking Dead introduced into the theme was that humans are bigger threats than zombies, though, honestly, that's the case on almost every zombie movie I can recall. But, I'll grant it, never as prominently as on The Walking Dead.
Are humans the bigger threat in 7 Days to Die? Well, if so, then there's truly a lot of development to come, though it does seem that alpha 17 is going in that direction. And maybe that's the case on multiplayer -- I couldn't tell. As far as single player goes, though, I just don't see any influence whatsoever from TWD.
Post-apocalyptic games and movies seem to be a much stronger influence, even stronger than zombie movies. The "base" concept is a traditional staple of zombie movies, though usually as "prefab" adaptations, so to speak.
And the idea that zombies eventually find a way of wrecking your perfect base.
Aldranon
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I wasn't sure if your avatar was bread, cheese or a scary Sponge Bob!
Now take a look at my avatar:
A young, possibly Asian girl, on a mission:
-Maybe she is exploring the post apocalypse (using an Airship), looking for a new place for her people.
-She has a katana (a high skilled weapon - also used for cutting bread)
So its obvious that my avatar is better than your avatar! That proves everything, according to Al's Marina and "Win with Logic (and a gun) in the Apocalypse!" School.
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Royal Deluxe
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Airship, Katana ..... pff noob.
I dont even need arms.
I dont even need arms.
Jackelmyer
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I thought your avatar was Cinnamon Toast Crunch. Huh. Learn something new everyday...
Royal Deluxe
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Stay away with butter, its my kryptonite. (No butter in 7D2D XD )
No whine needed, i drink your blood ^^
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RRLyXu2_GKw
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A Nice Cup of Tea
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That's a huge relief for me.
I'm probably in the minority here, but I want the whole faction stuff to be Navezgane only, so that I can ignore it by not playing Navezgane. I'm hoping that random gen will still be you-against-the-zombies survival rather than an RPG with NPCs, factions, and quests.
Basically, I prefer the feeling that you're on your own trying to survive; rather than there being all these organised groups around that you're doing jobs for in the hope of being accepted by them. If there are any groups of survivors, I want to be the one recruiting and organising them; not the one trying to work and bribe my way into joining an existing one.
So I don't mind the occasional wandering bandits attacking you or something like that, but I'm glad to hear that there's likely not going to be fixed factions holding territory in random gen.
KingSlayerGM
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Honestly I would enjoy both gameplays: lone survivor and rpg with factions.
I think that 7 days to die is a zombie game, zombies are what fans want from this game and the devs know that. So if they will add npcs, factions... I think that you will still be able to enjoy killing zombies.
RPGs are about making choices, so I hope that they will allow us to decide not to join a faction. But I am really looking forward for more RPG stuff!
Xtrakicking
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I'm not, though.
It comes a time in the game when everything starts to feel empty. There's only zombies, and when you build a huge base and you're a walking tank it becomes dull. Think of how boring The Walking Dead would be without humans, without bandits, without other survivors. To limit faction territories to Navezgane only is very frustrating to me, cause I don't play Navezgane, and for that reason I don't get to enjoy one feature of the game.
At the very least I hope there will be still hostile and friendly survivors in rwg too.
crazywildfire
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Agree
I don't expect a story line on rwg because it be hard to do with how random things spawn and such so best leave that to navezgane map. But still hope that the rest of it will still come to rwg at least for the most part.
They don't need to do that. Navezgane is the "seed" a new player will normally choose. I played Navezgane first until I had visited practically every poi that existed there then switched. And everyone else I know did as well.
Also, sandbox is not for everyone, the story alone will make sure that some people will play navezgane and navezgane alone.
And handcrafted area design and placement has its advantages. Actually Navezgane will always be the best designed "seed" you can select until you outgrow it.
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A Nice Cup of Tea
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Yeah, you'll notice that I said I don't mind wandering bandits and the like.
It's the idea of there being established factions that on the one hand are so elitest you can't join them or live with them unless you pay or gain enough "reputation" with them; yet on the other hand you're expected to want to deal with them to progress the game rather than just ignoring them and doing your own thing. That's what I'm not keen on.
To me, the ideal model for the game is something like the original Dawn of the Dead. The heroes there take an old shopping mall and barricade it to make it a zombie-proof fort. They have issues when a group of bandits try to loot the place - and have to fight them off, but there's no point where they start going to do quests for the bandits in order to be allowed to join them (or do quests for a rival organisation to the bandits in order to be allowed to join them either).
Basically, I'm perfectly fine with "wandering monster" bandits and other NPCs; and maybe even with a bandit base that you can steal from; sabotage; and eventually destroy. But if there are going to be any factions of survivors then I feel that since you're the protagonist of the game it should be your faction. You should be the one inviting NPCs to come and join you. You shouldn't be doing fetch quests for NPCs for the privilege of being able to joint them.
Of course, what I want doesn't amount to a hill of beans in this crazy world.
My preferences certainly won't influence the what the devs do. Which is why I'm hoping that the faction stuff will be limited to Navezgane, so that I can ignore it in random gen, and pleased at Roland's hinting that that might be the case.
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My problem with Navezgane is that I know exactly where to find what, I need random gen for the actual survival challenge (at least in the beginning). If they want us to return there, in my opinion there needs to be some randomness added somehow - e.g. quest NPCs can spawn in different locations, etc.
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