PC Developer Discussions: Alpha 17
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It seems SI is calculated on the block and surrounding blocks ONLY if a block gets added or removed. You can see this if you have floating blocks after a collapse. Just adding a wood frame lets everything fall down, even though the wood frame itself may be well supported.
So for example a zombie destroys a block => all 6 blocks around that block will be SI-checked at that moment. If that leads to the fall of one of these blocks, the 6 blocks around this new one are checked. And so on...
Well in this case Xeen is the owner of a server and he speaks about the players and the BALANCE on his server. Not about you or me. And in my opinion that is a valid reason as he is surely also a player on his server and I would bet it is a PvP server.
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wordwaster
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cleared that up. ok. so then my suggestion of special zombies with the ability was stupid. move along. nothing to see here.
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Okay fine but if everyone at TFP knows it is a serious issue that needs to be addressed why is it taking so long to do something about it?
There should be under ground specific threats that the player is forced to deal with so there is no such thing as being 100% safe under ground no matter the depth.
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Wolf959
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That sounds like a really complicated feature just to think about. Not only would you have to worry about how soft squishy things muffle sound and hard flat things echo it. But there's also how noisy digging in dirt is and picking at rock vs punching rock. what does wood sound like when it hits stuff vs glass or stone or dirt or some metal object?
3 likely reasons:
1) There are lots of serious issues
2) There was already a try to let them dig which showed problems (a crater landscape for one). A better solution was not immediately apparent
3) Fataals AI rewrite was an ideal opportunity to make another attempt.
Quote: "Sensing works in all directions and is distance based. The game does not model sound absorption by blocks (maybe someday we can add that), so hearing you up, down or sideways is the same."
If you want to make it very realistic, sure. But Fataal is probably only talking about an approximation, things like echo or pitch won't be simulated if they want a fast to run and fast to implement feature.
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This is where I always just sigh when I read comments when they decide they don't want players to do x, y. and z. Play YOUR game the way you want to and move on. Who cares if people make tree stands, underground bases, or ride behemoths around. So many enjoyable things to do in this game. I hate to quote Aaron Rogers because I hate the Packers, but "Just Relax".
faatal
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An individual block stores very little info, to keep memory use down, so it does not have an SI value it can just grab. SI is calculated in some fairly complicated code for a bunch of blocks when something changes. Might even be on a separate thread and done over time. Was a while ago when I looked at it. It looked like a closed system, that pathing can't just say what is the SI on this block without it running a full update and me having to somehow get it to send me values. Not something I want to attempt for A17.
skullpoker
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Luke: Amazing. Every word of what you just said was wrong.
VANILLA Skyrim had a hard cap, no skills could be legendary and your max character level was 82.
As for being forced to know shotguns or rifles or bows, that should never be a choice since you start the game with bows and getting rifles is purely RNG luck. Shotguns are in between since a real shotgun is RNG luck and a Blunderbuss can be crafted. While I understand that the basic skill of it is learned by doing, the perks should definitely not be limited since which ones you have to develop the related skill is pure chance.
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