PC Best Horde Night Defense
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zombie4hire
Refugee
I used plates in my experiment and they worked very well.
And I do not see this as AI exploitation, it is simply zombies can not jump two squares.
And I do not see this as AI exploitation, it is simply zombies can not jump two squares.
KingSlayerGM
Refugee
I used half blocks.
In my experiments with plates, it rarely happened that some zombie were able to jump up (when they were standing on dead bodies first)
So I managed to build one of these out of concrete for the day 7 horde in a fresh game; 90 minute days, second-hardest setting. When building the platform, it is wise to add wooden frame supports underneath while it dries. More than once a side collapsed because of uneven drying.
It worked really well, though there was one instance where a zed got pushed up the platform by something and almost took me out. Otherwise the main challenge was repairing while fighting. The platform is ablative, so there's really no danger to losing blocks. In the end I gained 8 levels with almost no personal risk.
In summary, this is probably one of the best horde defense strategies, if not the best. Will have to see how steel holds up against cops and ferals, if I get that far.
It worked really well, though there was one instance where a zed got pushed up the platform by something and almost took me out. Otherwise the main challenge was repairing while fighting. The platform is ablative, so there's really no danger to losing blocks. In the end I gained 8 levels with almost no personal risk.
In summary, this is probably one of the best horde defense strategies, if not the best. Will have to see how steel holds up against cops and ferals, if I get that far.
KingSlayerGM
Refugee
Well, usually zombies in movie are depicted as brainless creatures. They do not move like humans and sometimes they prefer to smash stuff rather than to circle it, or climb over it. So yeah, zombies that do not jump are not necessarily bad AI...
ColdSteelRain
Refugee
I agree, KingSlayerGM. We're fighting zombies, not Aliens or Predators. If the game is working as intended, and I think this is, then it isn't an exploit to use your enemy's weaknesses against them.
Kage848
Stream Team
This looks awesome. Totally gonna use it. One question though. Why leave the underneath open for crawlers and dogs? Seems the great part is the zeds cant jump up. Could you just have blocks the whole was and simply put half blocks on top?Hi guys,I would like to share with you what I consider to be the best horde night defense system.
I survived 100 days with this in a dead is dead game.
PROS:
- easy to build
- cheap
- gives 100% of experience to the player
- works with any material
- easy to maintain
- no need for bullets
CONS:
- you actively need to defend during horde night
- crawlers and dogs get stuck under the structure, but you can fix this with spikes
Any material is OK, but I suggest cobblestone for week 1, concrete week 2, steel week 3...
Here it is:
- build this structure
- use a melee weapon of your choice
- keep smashing their skulls as they come, don't let them break your blocks
- keep repairing as blocks are damaged
- keep looting
The top layer is made of slabs, so you can easily JUMP UP and down, but zombies can't reach you.
What do you think?
Anybody has anything better?
KingSlayerGM
KingSlayerGM
Refugee
Hey what's up Kage!
Zombies could destroy a half block, then jump on the block, that is below the one just destroyed, and reach you.
However filling everything would probably work anyway, because once you've reached steel they break nothing, cause you kill them faster.
So yes, good idea! (maybe avoid it for week 1 or 2 when you have flagstone)
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KingSlayerGM
Refugee
With empty underneath they never got up once in 100 days
Sure man, I would be honored (;
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Kosmic Kerman
Scavenger
I’ve tried this on a day 7 horde and it worked well. I would put some wood spikes around the center column. The zombies are likely to break some of the half blocks. Also, when you build it on terrain you can have some leveling issues with one side being higher then the other. So I would either create a solid block floor, use wood frames to level the entire area first, or build it on a road.
Aw man, i seen this too late i think..... i just recently started a new game after taking a break for a few weeks when i lost my entire game save. I am on day 7 now and just finished fortifying the police station to bunk in for horde night..... i still have a few hours before the horde though, so maybe i can still give this a try. the experience would be nice! I watch a lot of Kage848 videos, so i think its awesome hes going to feature this on one of his videos too!Hi guys,I would like to share with you what I consider to be the best horde night defense system.
I survived 100 days with this in a dead is dead game.
PROS:
- easy to build
- cheap
- gives 100% of experience to the player
- works with any material
- easy to maintain
- no need for bullets
CONS:
- you actively need to defend during horde night
- crawlers and dogs get stuck under the structure, but you can fix this with spikes
Any material is OK, but I suggest cobblestone for week 1, concrete week 2, steel week 3...
Here it is:
- build this structure
- use a melee weapon of your choice
- keep smashing their skulls as they come, don't let them break your blocks
- keep repairing as blocks are damaged
- keep looting
The top layer is made of slabs, so you can easily JUMP UP and down, but zombies can't reach you.
What do you think?
Anybody has anything better?
KingSlayerGM
After using this platform for 3 horde days, I still haven't died once. So it's a very solid defense. It does have a major weakness though, and that is the ■■■■ dogs pushing other zeds up. On day 21 this happened about a dozen times. It can be mitigated somewhat by running around on the platform, dragging them underneath (where there are spikes to kill them). But since defense is performed on the edge of the platform, there's a large risk associated with actively defending if there are any dogs in the horde.
This has nothing to do with terrain height. I have a 2-block buffer of flat concrete at ground level around the platform, so there's no minor hills or other things for the zeds to climb up. They can also, somewhat paradoxically climb on top of each other if they remove some platform and lose their legs to spikes. They're easier to deal with when incapped like this, of course. The biggest risk is a sprinting zed on the platform stun-locking the player.
This has nothing to do with terrain height. I have a 2-block buffer of flat concrete at ground level around the platform, so there's no minor hills or other things for the zeds to climb up. They can also, somewhat paradoxically climb on top of each other if they remove some platform and lose their legs to spikes. They're easier to deal with when incapped like this, of course. The biggest risk is a sprinting zed on the platform stun-locking the player.
KingSlayerGM
Refugee
My spikes are like in point A, not B, and NO zombie has ever managed to get on the platform.
Also destroying quickly gore blocks (point C) may help.
My spikes are like in point A, not B, and NO zombie has ever managed to get on the platform.
Also destroying quickly gore blocks (point C) may help.
I've got it set up correctly. It's odd you've never experienced this issue. Perhaps I am too slow at killing the zombies. I'm soloing with "16 Alive" at one time, and the horde night is "uncapped" via a method Guppycur revealed in some thread I can't find right now. It's very difficult to clear the gore blocks while defending.
