PC Alpha 21 Discussion Overflow

[Roland]

I don’t agree. What is a cooperative game, what is PVP ... everything goes equally well (if the ping is adequate)).

Competition is the difference. When you play a game competitively vs other players it is much more important to have a level playing field and to make sure the conditions are fair to all competitors. The game can’t provide that condition for PVP. 
 

I play this game cooperatively with my Mom (she’s 76) and when we do, she hosts. We do it this way so that her experience is the smoothest. I’m willing to put up with the hit that comes from being the client on a person to person connection rather than a dedicated server because we aren’t competing against each other. It doesn’t matter that she’s going to have a perfect connection and mine is going to be less than perfect. It’s good enough for cooperative play but it wouldn’t be for competitive. 

 

[beerfly]

I understand you I'm new to the forum  

Just wanna say, I hope you are here in the forum the hours and the minutes just before the release of A21. It is worth it. 

 

[Guppycur]

Well I asked how can I disable it. I would love to debug it myself

Oh okay, grab Sphereii's Legacy Distant Terrain mod from his github.

 

[beerfly]

Oh okay, grab Sphereii's Legacy Distant Terrain mod from his github.

 If allowed here is a link : 

Spoiler

https://github.com/SphereII/SphereII.Mods/tree/master/SphereII Legacy Distant Terrain

 

[Jost Amman]

Would you be able to do all of us a small favour and give a comparison screenshot of before and after of the update of POI's.

Why are you even asking? You know he signed an NDA.

He can't show content unless TFP themselves authorize him.

my anvil has it all the way on the end. 

Why TF have you got an anvil??  :suspicious:

Do you shoe horses?  :confused2:

 

[Annihilatorza]

Why are you even asking? You know he signed an NDA.

He can't show content unless TFP themselves authorize him.

Why TF have you got an anvil??  :suspicious:

Do you shoe horses?  :confused2:

How would I know who has signed what, sorry if I don't know exactly who has signed what documents and the exacting personal lives of every single person involved with the tfp.

I thought he worked for tfp and as an employee.

 

[Adam the Waster]

Why are you even asking? You know he signed an NDA.

He can't show content unless TFP themselves authorize him.

Why TF have you got an anvil??  :suspicious:

Do you shoe horses?  :confused2:

I make weapons, and armor funny enough games like 7DTD and Ark inspired me.

my first forge i made was like 7DTDs but made from concrete rocks.... Thats how you make a bomb in your backyard (concrete explodes/pops in high heat)
i also used a cast ior frying pan as my anvil....... and a Blowing ball 

im working on making the iron armor set but i need to make new tools

 

[Jost Amman]

I make weapons, and armor funny enough games like 7DTD and Ark inspired me.

my first forge i made was like 7DTDs but made from concrete rocks.... Thats how you make a bomb in your backyard (concrete explodes/pops in high heat)
i also used a cast ior frying pan as my anvil....... and a Blowing ball 

im working on making the iron armor set but i need to make new tools

Interesting... but what purpose do medieval weapons and armor have today?

Is it just a hobby? Do you sell them to somebody? ... Anyway, it's cool. Good for you!  :thumb:

 

[Riamus]

Interesting... but what purpose do medieval weapons and armor have today?

Is it just a hobby? Do you sell them to somebody? ... Anyway, it's cool. Good for you!  :thumb:

Actual use, none really.  Not sure what they do with what they make, but I know I collect swords.  I knew a blacksmith who made Damascus knives as well as other weapons, including a double bladed battle axe/great axe that had a head as wide as someone's shoulders and a haft long enough for it to be about 6 feet to the top of the blades.  Someone using it in a battle would have to be very strong because it was bigger than normal, but that's what the person who ordered it wanted.  He sold them and made good money doing so.

And a lot of people, including myself, enjoy Renaissance festivals and faires and will wear armor and carry weapons there.  Many reasons to make them and it could even just be the enjoyment of learning to make something like that.

 

[KenGross]

Why are you even asking? You know he signed an NDA.

He can't show content unless TFP themselves authorize him.

Why TF have you got an anvil??  :suspicious:

Do you shoe horses?  :confused2:

is it strange to own an anvil?  I am not a metal worker but sometimes you need to bend a bracket and the vice or bench do not suffice for a surface for my 10 lb sledge to swing at.   

 

[Jost Amman]

is it strange to own an anvil?  I am not a metal worker but sometimes you need to bend a bracket and the vice or bench do not suffice for a surface for my 10 lb sledge to swing at.   

Well, if you're a professional, there are nowadays electric machines that do that with pinpoint precision on the bending angle.  

 

[Prydonian]

OCD - this is the way

What people are talking about now is not "quality", it's OCD.

i am the worst ocd guy ever so im not gonna say its not.

Man, you people really don’t get what OCD is.
 

 

[Mumpfy]

Man, you people really don’t get what OCD is.
 

good to know. ill let my doc know im cured.

was a funny joke until i actually had to go back and check how many edits i made and do one more edit it again to make it even.

 

[Guppycur]

Man, you people really don’t get what OCD is.
 

A few of us like to mess with him by posting images with just slightly off characteristics, because it's funny and we know he's going to fix the image and repost, then spend two weeks doing it better.

Well, funny to us.

Point is, dude is ocd.

 

[KenGross]

Well, if you're a professional, there are nowadays electric machines that do that with pinpoint precision on the bending angle.  

Ah maybe I misread your post.  Yes anyone in the profession with any money would defiantly have a power hammer, a hydrolytic press, a bandsaw, a tubing bender.  metal lathe, maybe a Bridgeport or two.  but even they usually still have an anvil or sometimes 5...lol and then you have your average blue collar worker that kind of equipment is just not in the budget and an anvil just makes sense.

 

[Pernicious]

Ah maybe I misread your post.  Yes anyone in the profession with any money would defiantly have a power hammer, a hydrolytic press, a bandsaw, a tubing bender.  metal lathe, maybe a Bridgeport or two.  but even they usually still have an anvil or sometimes 5...lol and then you have your average blue collar worker that kind of equipment is just not in the budget and an anvil just makes sense.

As a white collar, I find that odd. Anything at work that I have the right to use for work, I also have the right (in my contract no less) to use for "reasonable personal use". 

Want to game on my work laptop? Not a problem. Going camping and want to borrow the Starlink unit - boss checks that nobody else needs it for work, and if it's free, mine. Want to put some new WiFi APs in my house? RF spectrum analyser is mine for the weekend (it's all going software these days anyway).

Why would a blue collar have his own tools? Are you not allowed to stay back and use them? A mate of mine is a mechanic and we used to use the workshop on weekends. But even then, I understood that due to OHS/Insurance reasons, that was his boss being quite trusting and generous.

 

[Riamus]

As a white collar, I find that odd. Anything at work that I have the right to use for work, I also have the right (in my contract no less) to use for "reasonable personal use". 

Want to game on my work laptop? Not a problem. Going camping and want to borrow the Starlink unit - boss checks that nobody else needs it for work, and if it's free, mine. Want to put some new WiFi APs in my house? RF spectrum analyser is mine for the weekend (it's all going software these days anyway).

Why would a blue collar have his own tools? Are you not allowed to stay back and use them? A mate of mine is a mechanic and we used to use the workshop on weekends. But even then, I understood that due to OHS/Insurance reasons, that was his boss being quite trusting and generous.

That all depends on where you work.  Many smaller companies and family owned businesses are more willing to allow that.  And many of the larger companies will as well.  It is how the big name companies compete to get the best employees.  Adding extra benefits like that is cheap, but makes employees happy, so they tend to do that.  But I think most of the mid sized companies are less likely to allow that from my experience... even white collar.

Besides, people can have hobbies that they don't do at work, so would need their own tools.

 

[Prydonian]

good to know. ill let my doc know im cured.

was a funny joke until i actually had to go back and check how many edits i made and do one more edit it again to make it even.

My sincere apologies.  You and me both.  I just get so very, very, very, very sick of hearing people use it as a goofy euphemism for being picky, and seeing it three times in five minutes got on my last untrodden nerve today.  I also failed to notice two of them were from the same person.
 

A few of us like to mess with him by posting images with just slightly off characteristics, because it's funny and we know he's going to fix the image and repost, then spend two weeks doing it better.

Well, funny to us.

Point is, dude is ocd.

It’s a testament to my frayed nerves that I thought for minute you might actually do that.  With that in mind, for the love of all that’s holy, I beg you to stop using it as an adjective.  For me.  As a favor.  
 

 

[Jost Amman]

It’s a testament to my frayed nerves that I thought for minute you might actually do that.  With that in mind, for the love of all that’s holy, I beg you to stop using it as an adjective.  For me.  As a favor.  

Then you should also ask the IGF to stop using the word "handicap" to express a disadvantage... it's offensive toward people who have a real handicap.

If we start controlling how words are commonly used and start to take offense on everything, we'll end up deleting most of the people's daily jargon.

When people use the word OCD that way it's in no shape, way or form, intended as an offense against people who have real OCD.

The same way as the word handicap in golf is not intended to offend people with a real handicap.

So, please stop with this victimhood mentality and get rid of it, you'll live better.

You think I'm harsh? No, I'm not. I'm treating you exactly as I would treat any other forum member: it's also a form of respect. Peace.

 

[Prydonian]

Then you should also ask the IGF to stop using the word "handicap" to express a disadvantage... it's offensive toward people who have a real handicap.

If we start controlling how words are commonly used and start to take offense on everything, we'll end up deleting most of the people's daily jargon.

When people use the word OCD that way it's in no shape, way or form, intended as an offense against people who have real OCD.

The same way as the word handicap in golf is not intended to offend people with a real handicap.

So, please stop with this victimhood mentality and get rid of it, you'll live better.

You think I'm harsh? No, I'm not. I'm treating you exactly as I would treat any other forum member: it's also a form of respect. Peace.

You’re way off-target.  I don’t want it used as an adjective because it’s a crime against language.  It’s a freakin’ noun.  When it comes to usage, the internet slang application is just too damn stupid to live.  Demand more eloquence from your colloquialisms.  If you want to come up with a less clumsy way to slangify “OCD,” I’m all for it, and I’ll consider your grant proposal.  

Now, as for taking offense, you’re certainly welcome to your opinion - I’m rabidly opposed to hyper-cautious language myself - but there are some major logical flaws in your golf parallel and your assumption about my underlying mentality is a wide miss, though understandable.  I’m not keen to discuss it further, though, for a whole host of reasons, not least because I’m aware I dragged things WAY off topic.