How bandits deal with traps will bring a new dynamic the the base. I can see them firing on the more obvious traps and players setting hidden traps like collapsing floors etc. I wonder too will they attempt to cut power and attack vehicles should they find no entry. Hitting a generator or interrupting an electrical circuit could cause problems particularly for players with electric doors and traps. The good thing aboutt bandits is there won't need to be great numbers of them to bring spice to the game.
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Thanks for the info. Then I don't need to think about creating very large maps and probably struggle with memory issues while generating them. Navezgane is big enough for me. 6K maps shouldn't be a problem with 24 GB RAM. I can also live without Dynamic Mesh.
Please continue your great work. Thanks for the time and effort you put into this game. I like fighting zombies, surviving, crafting, building, and random generated worlds in computer games. 7 Days To Die combines all this features in one package. I'm eager to see how this masterpiece continues evolving.
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Vintorez
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Might be interesting if bandits primarily dropped weapon and armor parts, feels like equipment crafting mostly just acts as RNG protection to at least get quality 5 gear once you have the rank to do so and haven't found a quality 6 yet, and is wasteful to use parts for anything less. Having a somewhat targetable source could help adjust how they're used.
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xyth
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I hope the community keeps its expectations about TFP vanilla bandit functionality at a reasonable level. Bandits are not "easy" to develop in the context of this game. Over the past several alphas our NPC team has put many hundreds, if not thousands of development hours into extending the existing NPC and zombie code, leveraging already built systems like factions, buffs, cvars etc. We extended the EAI "AI" used by zombies, but found that while efficient, was limited in how much we could extend it for humanlike behavior without issues. This forced us to extend some abandoned UAI code that permitted NPCs to make real-time (several times per second) choices of behavior based on the current situation. This works well, but there is a performance hit, and I expect TFP to focus on relatively "dumb" AI bandits based on EAI at first so there isn't a major performance impact on the game when more than a dozen operate in an area. Our NPC modding team will reuse whatever TFP bandit code base they provide in A21, and likely we will continue to focus on smarter versions using UAI.
Drinka1ity
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Will TFP be putting any work in A21 to allow map makers to have their own pois draw on first map draw in RWG?
Older tools like Nitrogen & KingGen were able to do this with relative ease and while A20 map maker was a vast improvement over previous versions,
it still didnt give the world makers the depth that they require in RWG to allow server managers to reset a custom prefab after a team has done a hordenight on your pride and joy and left it as rubble lol.
Older tools like Nitrogen & KingGen were able to do this with relative ease and while A20 map maker was a vast improvement over previous versions,
it still didnt give the world makers the depth that they require in RWG to allow server managers to reset a custom prefab after a team has done a hordenight on your pride and joy and left it as rubble lol.
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I'd like to know that too. Hated wrote: "A20.4 with fixes can be expected on EXP later this week or early next week." That was on February 22...
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Matt115
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faatal
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EAI has been optimized over the years I've been working on it and UAI being dead, I have not touched it. I do plan to remove it at some point, but hopefully the bandit framework will be adequate to extend from for modders.
Good bandit performance and numbers is a goal, so they will run adequately on all systems.
It is still in the works. There were some issues with platform changes and then there was a bad merge of some of my changes that they backed out and may end up having to hand merge.
Blake_
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That right there and other issues born from simple overlooks are the biggest downsides to having patches as opposed to just bringing on the beefy alpha . That being said, I like the patches. It keeps the player engaged while waiting for a21. Bandits. Finally. More than 4 years since those swearing lines were recorded, lol.
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khzmusik
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Entity AI (used for zombies now) and Utility AI (not used for years but still in the code). Utility AI is not a TFP invention, you can Google it if you want the technical details.
Matt115
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meilodasreh
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Possibly he means...well...numbers. You know, stuff like "1", "5", or even "12" just to give a few easy examples.
Commonly used to specify a certain amount of things.
In this context:
how many bandits can be there simultaneously, without too heavy performance impact.
...oh, now I get it! You already knew that, and your real, indirectly asked question was:
how many bandits can be there simultaneously, without too heavy performance impact?
Matt115
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... no i mean - how many bandits should be in POI, how many "bandit" POI per 1 km^2, how many bandits wandering outside is good enough for him - because we know that max number of "enemy" is 64 right? so 1 bandit = 63 zombies, 2 bandits = 62 zombies etc
So my question mean more :' how much bandits will be ratio to zombie number
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