I've never used them, to be honest. Yes, canned goods certainly do become less available on a server, but there's still plenty to eat. Hell now a days I can eat rotton meat, and it sounds like even that is going to have less of a detriment in a19, and that concerns me.
The point is that there are mechanics in the game that are more of a burden than something rewarding. Why would I spend all the time and resources one needs to get a farm going if every food in the game is perfectly edible and bears no consequence? I'd much rather get a bunch of raw meat and eat it straight than spend days gathering rotten meat and seeds to get a farm and then spend time stacking up crops to then cook a meal. You see the issue? Might as well eat the rotten meat than use it to farm.
Yes, indeed I play mostly SP. I understand that the system needs to be balanced for both playstyles, but with these changes the MP people will be starving less while in SP there will be people who will stop bothering with food altogether.
pfft....I could announce the A19 Pre-release Stream Event and get 30+ turds in no time.
Rotting flesh and raw meat lower your health and can cause dysentery which shafts your stamina for a bit. Still balancing stuff but I think it will be fine. I'm looking forward to the max stamina boost good foods give so I can mine longer without gassing out.
100% agreed. I'd give you a like, but I ran out. I might take a turd away from Snow...
Not preferable, but... A feasible solution. I've never modded the game, I'll have to learn how. Thank you for the suggestion. It's not like I'll ever stop playing the game because let's face it, it's in the upper echelon of survival games. If I can learn to mod out creative choices in the game that I disagree with, and by extension, play multiplayer with my friends who prefer it the way I do, then no harm no foul. I do have to admit, ever since alpha 17, my play experience has been more about the world, and less about my character, which is a good thing in a way. I look to supplies needed and construction projects required, rather than skill points wanted, and that's changed the way I play the game in a positive way. Just sucks when I specialize into Fortitude and Strength and I can't find a crucible anywhere, but I've begun keeping loot at 200% and getting Lucky Looter III to offset that. For multiplayer the new system works well because it limits every player to one or two roles, and the more people, the better; It's just the single-player aspect that seems to suffer. I remember when my biggest problem with the current alpha was zombie rage mode, but once I "got good" so to speak, it ceased being a perceived problem and became a welcomed part of the game for me. I'm hoping attributes will do the same, but I feel like modding is how it'll have to be for now. But hey, there's always the possibility you guys add in a server option for it, like "skill points per level up", or a toggleable alternative for single-players where Attributes are replaced with Perks and there are no gates between you and every perk. We'll see, but thanks for making the game anyway, regardless of how it ends up it's always going to be a 10/10 in my books, especially if it turns out it's highly moddable. I loved Empire at War because of the XML modding, you could tailor such a unique experience. Is 7dtd modding similar? I suppose I'll discover that myself when I look it up shortly.
Yes this. At the end of the day new players need to have a chance and with all the new criticals food needs to be a source of healing not another way to die. It didn't make sense that after all the effort preparing a home cooked meal that there was still a random chance you would get sick and lose all your hard work (food) for not doing anything wrong.
Do you have to stand right near it for it to work though?+ points for the ramparts looks on your horde base. I love it.
Having ole sledgy at the door sounds like a good use. Will have to give that a try.
I never used or had the need to use the vending machine's at all and as Guppycur has said meat comes to you in droves I ended up with so much meat, food just wasn't any concern after a couple of days in game.
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<spawn maxcount="1" respawndelay="3" time="Day" entitygroup="ZombiesAll" />
<spawn maxcount="1" respawndelay="4" time="Night" entitygroup="ZombiesNight" />
<spawn maxcount="1" respawndelay="14" time="Any" entitygroup="EnemyAnimalsForest" spawnDeadChance="0" />
<spawn maxcount="1" respawndelay="21" time="Any" entitygroup="FriendlyAnimalsForest" spawnDeadChance="0" />
</biome>And again, it's just as nonsensical to put effort preparing home cooked meals if there's no penalties to lower quality food at all. No one is saying all foods should have penalties, just that the ones that are lower tier (such as rotten or straight up uncooked food) should. If I have a broken leg, I don't think salmonella is going to help me heal.
Food for thought <snicker>
Didn't he already mention that those foods will hurt your HP and give you dysentery? That's a penalty in my book. Someone said you can "just pop a painkiller" but I'd rather not be having to eat my food along with a painkiller every time, which in turn will dehydrate me as well, and use up valuable HP supplies, so it's more than enough reason to try to attain the better foods. I guess pro players are swimming in hundreds of painkillers from the beginning and always have the time to do everything they need. At that point I think only mods could provide a level of challenge that they find interesting, honestly.
